They are already dropping to the hundred mark. Probably not going to get too far under that since it's the eternal players wanting the foils anyway.
I have my guesses on what goes up due to these bannings. Splinter Twin goes up even more. So silly. Grave Titan makes it's comeback. Primeval goes even further down. Tezz finally is going to see some play. No effect on Legacy of course.
By the way, have you people noticed the idiotic prices they are getting on some of those commander pre-con rares? Seriously? $20 for Chaos Warp and Flusterstorm is just dumb. Buy the frigging deck, it has both in it. Are people seriously this stupid? I just bought 4 of them and have a playset plus a ton of good tradable items. Dumb, dumb people.
Problem with just buying the decks is that they sold out REALLY fast at a lot of the LGS' in my area. Granted I'm not looking for 4x of each of the new rares that might be played, but the LGS sold out of their extra stock and kept just enough to have a decent game day release on saturday for it and then promptly sold out of on their release event day.
The stores literally could not keep them around long enough to buy 4x of Political Puppets for Chaos Warp and Flusterstorm.
Team Albany: What's Legacy?
You cannot know the sweetness of Victory, without first dwelling in the agony of Defeat.
Yeah, none of my three local gaming stores even GOT their commander product, it was apparently bought out from under them at the distributors. I guess I've just got to be patient and trust that Wizards made enough product . . .Originally Posted by Sims
Rishadan Port is like scuba gear.
--FoulQ
Next printing is supposed to be in August, and normally with a release like this the big box chains will end up having them within the next month. So if your LGS doesn't have them, check into big box.
I know, support your LGS and not Wally World or Target for Bombing, but if your LGS doesn't have them, you do what you have to.
Team Albany: What's Legacy?
You cannot know the sweetness of Victory, without first dwelling in the agony of Defeat.
3rd week of july is what my buddy who runs my LGS told me. He has ALL the decks in japanese as well, which i thought was cool.
I would actually be surprised if Jace drops below at the absolute least $45 on Ebay after this. The card is still in huge demand in every format but Standard, and a lot of people were already selling out of that format.
Chains almost always carry very low stock of CCG products, so maybe one or two of each. I've tried picking up other products like Duel Decks at chain stores, and it doesn't usually go as well as you'd hope.
This. Beyond the demand, people that already have Jaces are less likely to get rid of them because they have long-term value in every other format.
“It's possible. But it involves... {checks archives} Nature's Revolt, Opalescence, two Unstable Shapeshifters (one of which started as a Doppelganger), a Tide, an animated land, a creature with Fading, a Silver Wyvern, some way to get a creature into play in response to stuff, some way to get a land into play in response to stuff (a different land from the animated land), and one heck of a Rube Goldberg timing diagram.”
-David DeLaney
I think you might be surprised, then. Standard is still bigger than Legacy, and everyone is going to be unloading them to raise money for new decks. The ban will speed up what would have been a much slower decline. Combine this with the fact that a lot of Eternal players have picked them up already, the market is going to be glutted for a little while. I don't think $45 is too low, and I can see them hitting $35-40 before climbing back up to $45. I imagine they'll creep up to Goyf levels in a year or so. Foils, on the other hand, were bought mostly by Eternal players to begin with, so I don't see those dropping far below $100.
@ Jace, the Mind Sculptor conversation: I play strictly Legacy and I'm thrilled the price is going to drop. Now I can actually afford some.
Stoneforge Mystic has gone down quite a bit as well but has anybody else noticed the other two-drop card advantage creature has gone up a good deal? Dark Confidant is $30 and sold out on StarCity and he averages $43 on magiccards.info. I haven't payed that close attention to his price but I don't remember him being more than $12 or $15 most of the time.
One of the previous posters above you may have something to do with it.
There was a thread about what cards were undervalued and Dark Confidants was the overwhelming vote. This was a couple weeks ago and Dark Confidant was at $15, since then many people (including my friend who bought 70 Dark Confidants in like two days):
http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/s...l=1#post553720
bought up a lot of the inventory, I don't know if it's because of the speculation, supply, or demand but the price has doubled to $30 now.
People said it was undervalued, many people speculated, price goes up. Pretty simple. It's been done with a bunch of cards. Was it undervalued? Sure. But, people are pushing it for the sake of pushing it, and only jumped due to speculation, not a sudden realization of value.
-Matt
Stoneforge Mystic continues to drop: "slashed" to $7.50 on SCG and down to $7.99 on Channel-Fireball. I think this will end up around the $5 mark looking at how many are in stock at both.
Dark Confidant is still sold out on SCG at $30 and up to $50 on Channel-Fireball. I expect it to jump on SCG if they ever get them back in stock. Can't believe how quickly this card has shot up.
The more interesting story will be which cards follow him in his rise. There's plenty of other staples in Ravnica and the other close sets. Golgari Grave Troll being the best dredger there is surprises me all the time that he's so cheap.
I see what you're doing there Dachmai :P
Trying to get the Bob-hype going on other cards: "Bob is severely underrated", everyone starts speculating and buy them up, now let's do the same for Grave-Troll!
I want to remind people, in the meantime, how powerful and underrated Clique is, let's speculate on that one too although it really won't surprise me if she went to $15-20. She's printed in a small set, and will be a house in Modern/Overextended, if she's not already a house in Legacy..
Turn 1 Hierarch, Turn 2 Clique is usually very backbreaking for most mid-range/control/combo decks.
Decks that I care about:
Steel Stompy
UWx Landstill
Dreadstalker
DDFT (10% practice)
Mangara on MWS? You must be masochistic. -kiblast
True, there's no reason why Clique wouldn't be worth as much as Kira, for example.
I'm a bit disappointed Jace was banned and it tanked, to be honest. I made the move 2 weeks ago and bought a pair at a bit less than 60$ each, which I mistakenly thought would be the bottom for a while. First time I get burned like that since I bought back into the game in 2009. I don't know what got into me, buying that close to a B/R announcement and all. On a more positive note, I did trade my 4x SFM for a playset of Show and Tell when both were 25$. Makes up for my eagerness to play Deedstill again...
I've been wondering, regarding Akroma's Memorial. I imagine EDH drove this through the roof? Or it's worth so much because of its casual appeal, too, much like... Doubling Season?
Grindstone has been $20 for ages elsewhere even after all that SCG top 8s. I mean it's supply is pretty limited and should be worth more after all that winnings.
Also, Natural Order at $30, it's limited and in case you still haven't recognize just how easy it is to put away games with it, much like Painter's Stone.
Interestingly, Natural Order is not on the reserved list.
And now Grim Lavamancer is being printed in M12. Red is very well-positioned in the standard metagame right now, so if there aren't chase mythics in the set and not much is sold, his price could go way up.
Short of being mythic, being printed in a base set should only depress the price of a card. Even if it's really good. See: Pithing Needle.
“It's possible. But it involves... {checks archives} Nature's Revolt, Opalescence, two Unstable Shapeshifters (one of which started as a Doppelganger), a Tide, an animated land, a creature with Fading, a Silver Wyvern, some way to get a creature into play in response to stuff, some way to get a land into play in response to stuff (a different land from the animated land), and one heck of a Rube Goldberg timing diagram.”
-David DeLaney
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