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    Cool... I believe I'm not the only one confused on the card and I do think it's graveyard placement (which can be a factor if there are some cards that are looking for such cards) can be a problem.

    On the other hand, it's really hard to say until we can physically touch these cards.

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    Time to remove the dust from Draco and friends?

    Mindshrieker 1U

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    1/1

    It 's even blue for gods sake :)

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    Re: [INN] Spoiler discussion

    Even though the back-faced cards have zero casting cost, does Dark Confidant look at the casting cost of the backside or does it disregard it when you lose life?

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    The backface is only relevant when the card is in play and its transformation requirements have been met. A Dark Confidant will look at the CMC of the front face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blaat View Post
    Time to remove the dust from Draco and friends?
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    One of the 'creature power creep' cards in the set. At the CC and activation cost I think it's a better fit for Modern though... 2 cards and 5 mana seems like it should be 'hard win' territory in Legacy.

    ..
    That said, I must be missing something. The Garruk planeswalker looks like it's roughly on the same power level as Striped Bears. I suppose we shold be thankful that none of the flip cards so far seems to have a compelling power level.

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    Limited wrath with flashback. Seems like it might be good in blade control to save one flyer with an attached equipment. But leaving an opponent with a clock might be too detrimental.

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    I honestly think the new Garruk DFC is amazing. At worst, it can be a token generator no matter which side is on the battlefield, or it can be a green lightning bolt for creatures the turn it comes into play, which seems very out of place in the color wheel. He can quickly pick off weenies (Lavamancers, Confidants, Stoneforges, Hierarchs, Birds) and his dark side token ability gives his other two abilities inevitiability in slower match-ups. His casting cost screams to be tried in some sort of Green Stax build (spot creature removal is one of the deck's weaknesses, and the token generating fits perfectly with the permanent flooding theme of stax decks, sans Tabernacle). The flavor of the card is awesome as well; he is relentless and thus shows no loyalty to anything (0 loyalty abilities on the front side). Genius!

    My one complaint is that they didn't include the text "Garruk, the Veil-Cursed is green and black." I know it would have eaten up space and it's obvious that he's those two colors from the colors on the sides of the card, but they've included that clause on a lot more obvious things, like the Pacts from Future Sight.

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    Re: [INN] Spoiler discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by into_play View Post
    My one complaint is that they didn't include the text "Garruk, the Veil-Cursed is green and black." I know it would have eaten up space and it's obvious that he's those two colors from the colors on the sides of the card, but they've included that clause on a lot more obvious things, like the Pacts from Future Sight.
    I believe that is what the little indented circle to the left of "Planeswalker - Garruk" is for. The color(s) of the circle indicates the color(s) of the backside card. Garruk's circle is split into black and green, therefore backside Garruk, the Veil-Cursed is black and green.

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    I don't know if Divine Reckoning's flavor text is an insult or just a practical joke. Apart from that, it looks quite interesting for control decks in general that don't rely only on manlands or Jace to kill.

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    Re: [INN] Spoiler discussion

    Snapcaster Mage 1u
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    2/1
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    WOw thats a awesome card, replaying brainstorm, swords to plowshares etc. Its the Invitational card.

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    Snapcaster Mage is awesome. Unbelievably awesome.
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    Re: [INN] Spoiler discussion

    Why does that card costs less than Eternal Witness?

    *checks card again*

    Oh, because it's blue, duh.
    Please stop talking about whether Force of Will is broken or not. It obviously is, and rather than "the glue that holds vintage together" it would be better to call it "the rug under which you hide the filth until there's so much that you can no longer conceal it".

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    Well it gives flash back so its not the same as witness at all :P You need mana to get the advantech.


    Also a wizard so extra sexy with Riptide lab!

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    Re: [INN] Spoiler discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Rizso View Post
    Snapcaster Mage 1u
    Creature - Human Wizard (R)
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    When Snapcaster Mage enters the battlefield, target instant or sorcery card in your graveyard gains flashback until end of turn. The flashback cost is equal to its mana cost.
    2/1
    Illus. Volkan Baga

    WOw thats a awesome card, replaying brainstorm, swords to plowshares etc. Its the Invitational card.
    Gaylord this card is pretty absurd, it even has flash. Arguably better than a 1U flash 2/1 that draw a card in deck with cantrip (or blue in general). I'm already having nightmares of this getting misstep to misstep my misstep.

    Make it green or black no? :(

    Well fuck the other colors! Go blue!

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    Ugh. Lemme just add this to the pulsing mound of things that aggravate my non-blue player inferiority complex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rizso View Post
    Snapcaster Mage 1u
    Creature - Human Wizard (R)
    Flash
    When Snapcaster Mage enters the battlefield, target instant or sorcery card in your graveyard gains flashback until end of turn. The flashback cost is equal to its mana cost.
    2/1
    Illus. Volkan Baga

    WOw thats a awesome card, replaying brainstorm, swords to plowshares etc. Its the Invitational card.
    Wow..... WOW!

    I mean..... WOW!

    Preordering.

    Force of will for 1U and a body.

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    Re: [INN] Spoiler discussion

    When you flashback FOW with this mage guy, I think you have to pay full price for it, no?

    Not sure on that one.

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    at least it does not say "all instant and sorrcery cards in your graveyard gains flashback until the end of turn"

    I would assume you need to pay 5 for FOW when you bring it back

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    Re: [INN] Spoiler discussion

    No u have to pay the cmc cost, still, it's ridicolous.

    At 1UU 2/1 flash with Brainstorm attached is stupid already. When you have the ability to recurr also things like bolt or such it get ... ugh.

    Does it work with Suspended no mana spell cost?

    EDIT: no it doesn't, just checked Recoup rules. No Ancestral Vision retardness, at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danyul View Post
    When you flashback FOW with this mage guy, I think you have to pay full price for it, no?

    Not sure on that one.
    I was way too excited. You're right.
    You can't flashback FoW with it's alternate casting cost because you're literally flashing it back for 3UU. Whoops.
    Got WAY too excited. ;)

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