I don't run with the Tower, but I do have a Crucible of Worlds in my sideboard since I use the Enlightened Tutor board toolbox plan. Wastelocking some decks just works too well to pass up.Originally Posted by Draener
Also note:
If you have problems with Stoneblade use Riftsweeper in SB. Its best dude vs Visions. If you cut their CA they will lose. You can fetch it from GSZ for 2.
Fuck yeah, I had it in the back of my mind that there was a guy that was good vs Visions, but was too lazy to look it up. Thank you.
Hot damn, that's a good find. Thanks for sharing! /me snags one from his bulk boxes to bring with him to Atlanta this weekend.
Call me crazy, but I don't know if a 1 of target that is good against exactly 4 cards in their deck is going to make that big of a difference.
By the time they get their next ancestral visons and their next 4 turns to get the cards, they "should" be already dead.
Riftsweeper is nice, but do we have an extra room in sb? (btw Riftsweeper was mentioned by Fatal about 10 pages back :) )
My Stoneblade opponents usually side out SFM and Equipments and bring WoGs, Eslpeth, Path to Exiles and Disenchants. So I cannot use Krosan Grips, Tower ets. I usually ignore Visions and bring Gaddock Teeg as fast as I can. With Mom's protection and Missteps he is real problem for them. Shuts down their entire game plan(unless they topdeck a singleton Karakas).
Maybe Riftsweeper would be good addition, but with Teeg in play I cannot search for it.
Current SB, if anyone interested:
3 Aven Mindcensor
2 Choke
2 Phyrexian Metamorph
1 Gaddock Teeg
2 Pithing Needle
1 Bojuka Bog
4 Thorn of Ametyst
Last edited by Ajsmirnov; 09-10-2011 at 04:11 AM. Reason: Current SB
against stoneblade your bringing teeg for what ? force of will ?
Sure, but mostly Jace.
what are good SB cards for NO rug?
You should have 3 Aven Mindcensor, which are quite good against them, maindeck in the first place. Just watch out to protect him from Lavamancer/Burn with Mother of Runes, possibly with an active Quirion/Scryb Ranger. Other than that, try 2 copies of Phyrexian Metamorph + 1 or 2 Enlightened Tutor in the sb. You should mainly fight the combo, as the rest of NO Rug will at one point just crumble under KotR burrying them under Wastelands. However watch out for Fire/Ice 2-for-1-ing you with all your little small critters.
The seven cardinal sins of Legacy:
1. Discuss the unbanning ofLand TaxEarthcraft.
2. Argue that banning Force of Will would make the format healthier.
3. Play Brainstorm without Fetchlands.
4. Stifle Standstill.
5. Think that Gaea's Blessing will make you Solidarity-proof.
6. Pass priority after playing Infernal Tutor.
7. Fail to playtest against Nourishing Lich (coZ iT wIlL gEt U!).
read my post, please.
Wrath of Godbring WoGs, Eslpeth, Path to Exiles and Disenchants
Elspeth, Knight-Errant
Jace, the Mind Sculptor
Force of Will
Teeg is good against all this
I've read it but i haven't seen anywhere you bring teeg against what.
New Tech in testing vs popular Aggro Bant/Maverick/other creatures deck:
Act of Aggression
This card looks to me as answer to all Jaces under blocks. It can be 2-of-1 removal and really great combat trick.
But unfortunately i didn't test it too well so if you have time - please make also you tests.
Yeah I agree. Riftsweeper is funky but a bit narrow, and 90% of the time my first zenith target against them will be teeg anyways. I would add that the card I fear the most post-SB is wrath, because you kind of have to overextend against them (we play aggro since they have a better late-game and we need multiple threats on the board to deal with PW). Teeg protects both our board and himself from that, which is super nice. I'm assuming you already have 1 MD teeg?
It depends. Eslpeth or Teeg. If I expect more aggro or more control
I advise you to keep 1 Gaddock md. It just wins g1 against most combo (but Hive Mind) as those decks usually have no out to Mother+Gaddock in game1.
The seven cardinal sins of Legacy:
1. Discuss the unbanning ofLand TaxEarthcraft.
2. Argue that banning Force of Will would make the format healthier.
3. Play Brainstorm without Fetchlands.
4. Stifle Standstill.
5. Think that Gaea's Blessing will make you Solidarity-proof.
6. Pass priority after playing Infernal Tutor.
7. Fail to playtest against Nourishing Lich (coZ iT wIlL gEt U!).
Sure. If it is a 12-15 players tournament it means here 1-2 combo and i keep him in sb. If it is 30 players, like city championship, there is much more combo and control, Teeg goes md.
But thx you for advice. I play maverick for 2-3 months only and might be making some mistakes
Went 6-3 with this at Starcity. Could have gone 7-2 had I not guessed incorrectly what an opponent's hand was against Faeries, where I spent time trying to stick a Choke rather than equip and swing with a Jitte. The two counters ended up making the difference. Here's how things went down.
Round 1: Zoo (2-1). I steal game 1 off a Wasteland and buy time to stabilize against the fast. Jitte gets there. Game 2 I lose because he goes first. Game 3 he loses because I go first.
Round 2: Maverick Mirror (0-2, 1-1 overall). Game one he god draws me and has like 6 guys on the board before I can blink due to Gaea's Cradle. I end up topdecking all my equipment and playing my first Stoneforge as a Squire. Yay. Game 2 I mull to 6, keep a semi-okay hand, and lose to more amazing sacks of guys. Never saw a single spell from him that wasn't a guy. Seems good.
Round 3: 4-Color Bant (2-0, 2-1 overall). Never figured out what the black was for, but he led Tropical, Noble, then dropped a Scrubland. Don't remember much about this, other than that I drew like 957 Stoneforges midgame and got there.
Round 4: Dredge (2-0) His Breakthrough misses a second Dredger, and rolls a ton of Bridges. I remove them with Knight, Dryad Arbor, and GSZ up a Teeg to stop Dread Return. Right before I'm still about to die to a pile of Narco's and a few Zombie tokens, I draw Jitte. Sweet. Game 2 he mulls to four and I keep a 6-carder of three fetches, a Wasteland, a Maze, and a Surgical Extraction. I hunt up a bunch of Dryad Arbors, then get a Knight of the Reliquary and get there.
Round 5: BWR Faeries (1-2, 3-2 Overall). I get game one by doing every single point of damage with Mother of Runes. Not kidding. Game two is when I pick playing the Choke over equipping the Jitte (His hand had all Forces and Cliques and no removal), and at the very end he barely outraces me at 1. Game three I get rolled by Bitterblossom/Jitte stuff.
Round 6: Belcher (2-0, 4-2 Overall). Opening hands with Mental Misstep, two Land, Noble Hierarch, and GSZ are amazing here. Teeg gets there. Both times.
Round 7: Stoneblade (2-0, 5-2 overall). Dear Gaddock Teeg. Thank you for singlehandedly winning me this match. Sincerely, Tacosnape.
Round 8: NO Rug (0-2, 5-3 overall). I mull to six with no land. I mull to five with no land. I keep a five of no land, but a Noble, a GSZ, a Swords, a Path, and a Mental Misstep. I don't draw the needed land. Game two? Turn three Progenitus. Yay.
Round 9: Stoneblade (1-0 Time, 6-3 Overall)
Game one takes 46 minutes played at normal pace due to us both having Mazes and all our equipment out and somehow neither of us ever being able to draw a Wasteland, ever. I finally take down an entire army of his guys due to the amazing power of a multi-equipped Scryb Ranger. Like the one Scryb Ranger got there. So good. Game 2 we get to turns by like turn six, and I play defensively and he scoops before the turns end.
Quick hit thoughts before work:
1. Scryb Ranger is stupidly amazing. I'll never not run him again.
2. The only time I ever was happy to see Sword of Fire and Ice was against Stoneblade. At NO TIME today did I ever want Batterskull. Batterskull was terrible all day. Worst card in my deck. If you run Misstep, you don't need Batterskull. Jitte, on the other hand, was my mvp all day. I will be running a second Jitte main in the future. That good.
3. Choke is just beautiful in this meta.
4. Aven Mindcensor wins games.
5. The format is pretty healthy, despite what people say.
6. I had a mild blue splash (One Tropical main and seven fetches) and Mages in sideboard. Amazingly tech.
7. Only ran one Canopy. Didn't miss it.
8. Run the maindeck Gaddock Teeg. I would not have beaten Belcher or Stoneblade without him. Also, don't forget to board him out against Zoo because you're hung over.
9. $20 bottles of Hpnotiq the size of my face are amazing.
Interesting, would you care to share your list (I'm assuming the one you previously posted is outdated)? I would be particularly interested in getting some feedback (from you or others who tried it) on meddling mage. I'm also playing a light blue splash for SB cards, but until now it's been spellpierce and submerge (which are both amazing, btw), but mage seems very interesting, too.
Oh, and I agree about MD teeg, no question. This little guy really shines in our worst MU.
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