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    I'm about as ambivalent to this banning (MM) as I can be. I love my B/W pet deck but was having fun with a blue deck I was doing quite well with as well. The blue deck was using borrowed mental missteps and just last week I traded for my first 2 mental missteps (lol). About as in between on this banning as I can be. I think in the eye of the general public, though, this is an exciting banning.

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    What I find interesting is that the precedent has clearly been set that card filter spells in blue are bannable. Banning Ponder and Preordain across two formats sends a pretty clear message that spells that let you sculpt your hand are bannable. I think that means that Brainstorm is in the realm of bannable now. Before this, I would have said that there was no way. But after this, it wouldn't surprise me. I'm sure they'll wait until the Misstep banning shakes out and see if Blue is still dominating as much.
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    Is midrange and control decks gonna survive this ban? Or is it back to combo, aggro control, zoo and counterbalance now?

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    I'm disappointed that they didn't unban anything. I'm ambivalent that they banned Misstep.
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    What blows my mind is why did they ban Cloudpost over Emrakul. They know the Urzatron engine exists right and is tutorable easily with Loam and the Realms Uncharted (Can't rmb the green Gifts Ungiven card for lands).

    Emrakul will still be cheated in Modern. I know the Urzatron engine is usually a turn slower to assemble, but a dedicated deck could still play out 12-post easily. Not having Glimmerpost life stabilization matters though I guess.
    Exactly this last part. The fact that the ramp decks can gain a bunch of life incidentally in the process of generating mana makes the matchup for aggro decks borderline impossible. Because of that they will beat the slow control with emrakul and the aggro decks with lifegain, losing only to faster combo decks, leading the format to be full of, that's right, really fast combo decks. That is not what wizards wants. But they don't want to kill the archetype alltogether. Urzatron is both harder to assemble than a bunch of posts, and doesn't gain you life in the process, so it's probably fair enough.

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    So... I guess we're moving on to Spell Pierce again?
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    As a High Tide player, this gave me a massive boner. I've been playing the deck through Mental Missteps for months to great success, and now I can't help but believe it can easily go back to the top deck in the format.

    As for Modern, I actually like the changes. It forces players to be more creative in deckbuilding, and gives the format the kind of interactivity that Legacy will be lacking with Misstep out of sight. Plus, it just made Gifts Ungiven a hell of a lot more viable in that format, which gives me an additional boner.

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    Re: The September 20th 2011 Banned / Restricted List Update Reaction Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Rizso View Post
    Is midrange and control decks gonna survive this ban? Or is it back to combo, aggro control, zoo and counterbalance now?
    Counterbalance is a control deck silly.

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    Ugh. Goodbye Midrange, hello countertop and storm combo :(
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    Oh sweet irony.

    Whiners on this thread whining that MM was banned due to whiners. How pathetic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Di View Post
    As a High Tide player, this gave me a massive boner. I've been playing the deck through Mental Missteps for months to great success, and now I can't help but believe it can easily go back to the top deck in the format.

    As for Modern, I actually like the changes. It forces players to be more creative in deckbuilding, and gives the format the kind of interactivity that Legacy will be lacking with Misstep out of sight. Plus, it just made Gifts Ungiven a hell of a lot more viable in that format, which gives me an additional boner.
    High Tide also just got Snapcaster Mage. I think it's safe to say Spiral Tide is now much stronger again.


    Reanimator and Painter just got buffed as well, anything with a 1cc enabler. I hope! people play goblins.

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    Re: The September 20th 2011 Banned / Restricted List Update Reaction Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Metalwalker View Post
    What blows my mind is why did they ban Cloudpost over Emrakul. They know the Urzatron engine exists right and is tutorable easily with Loam and the Realms Uncharted (Can't rmb the green Gifts Ungiven card for lands).

    Emrakul will still be cheated in Modern. I know the Urzatron engine is usually a turn slower to assemble, but a dedicated deck could still play out 12-post easily. Not having Glimmerpost life stabilization matters though I guess.
    It will have a harder time surviving aggro, which I think is enough. It will also be more vulnerable to Ghost Quarter and Tectonic Edge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by troopatroop View Post
    Reanimator and Painter just got buffed as well, anything with a 1cc enabler. I hope! people play goblins.
    Reanimator was stronger with Mental Misstep in the format.
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    Well, that's that.

    R&D wanted a card that could help fight combination decks, and could also fight blue decks by countering cards such as Brainstorm (...) Unfortunately, it turned out poorly. Looking at high-level tournaments, instead of results having blue and nonblue decks playing Mental Misstep, there are more blue decks than ever. The DCI is banning Mental Misstep, with the hopes of restoring the more diverse metagame that existed prior to the printing of Mental Misstep.

    I've never complained about MM, but I do agree that (for me) the legacy meta post-survival and pre-mental misstep was probably the most exciting and diverse meta that I can remember. I'm happy with their decision.

    As far as the Modern bannings go, I think that they're being pretty ballsy, and they made some good choices. I'd like to see the format grow, and it wasn't going anywhere if they were tentative about axing those dominate decks.

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    Now we return to our regularly scheduled programming; the exhausting to watch Spiral Tide mirror matches that add almost a half an hour to the end of each round.

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    Re: The September 20th 2011 Banned / Restricted List Update Reaction Thread

    I thought R&D learned their lesson about free spells in sets past, but appreciate their willingness to buck convention from time to time and push the edges of power. While MM might be the only true reactive spell on the Legacy banned list (please correct me if I'm wrong), I can see that banning MM will increase diversity and that's fine with me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruticus View Post
    Ugh. Goodbye Midrange, hello countertop and storm combo :(
    What I don't get is why people are whining about CounterTop. The archetype was already in decline during post Survival ban/Pre Mental Misstep era.

    People should think before they start whining, especially about Legacy. What are we, preteens that can't get laid?
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    What decks were killed by MM and what decks are really hurt by it leaving? I can't figure out how this banning really makes sense. And as others have pointed out, why can't they find things to unban? I hate limiting the card pool in the format unless something is terribly wrong, ex. Hulk Flash.

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    Dreadnought is a real card again. Happy day.
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