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    Transform cards and color identity in EDH

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    Civilized Scholar // Homicidal Brute

    Blue scholar turns into red brute. Can be this card played with monoblue or monored general?

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    Re: Transform cards and color identity in EDH

    www.mtgcommander.com is in charge of the rules, and they haven't updated it yet. They probably will by the time of the prerelease. There is a lot of debate in the forums, but right now it looks like the cards will probably be counted as being all the colors on either side.

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    Re: Transform cards and color identity in EDH

    I think the new Garruk makes itself pretty plain; one side of the card is Green, the other side is Green/Black. I can't play Manamorphose with Kaalia, I don't see why one should be able to play New Garruk without also playing Black. It's like putting Fire//Ice in your deck and saying, "Oh, but, I'll only cast Ice, don't worry about it."

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    Re: Transform cards and color identity in EDH

    The new comprehensive rules update seems to indicate that the color identity of a card is the combination of colors on both sides of that card. This means that a monogreen commander cannot use Garruk Relentless.

    Quote Originally Posted by http://wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/161d&page=4
    903.4
    This rule, defining color identity in Commander games, was reworked a bit to clarify that every card has a color identity, not just the commander.

    903.4c
    This new rule states that the back face of a double-faced card is considered when determining a card's color identity.

    903.5c
    This rule was rewritten to make the color identity limitations of a Commander deck clearer, especially given the rewording of 903.4.

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    Re: Transform cards and color identity in EDH

    Yep, they went with it being the color(s) of both sides.
    “It's possible. But it involves... {checks archives} Nature's Revolt, Opalescence, two Unstable Shapeshifters (one of which started as a Doppelganger), a Tide, an animated land, a creature with Fading, a Silver Wyvern, some way to get a creature into play in response to stuff, some way to get a land into play in response to stuff (a different land from the animated land), and one heck of a Rube Goldberg timing diagram.
    -David DeLaney

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    Re: Transform cards and color identity in EDH

    This means you can always Pyro/Hydroblast Civilized Scholar // Homicidal Brute
    ...interesting!
    “Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.

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    Re: Transform cards and color identity in EDH

    Quote Originally Posted by HdH_Cthulhu View Post
    This means you can always Pyro/Hydroblast Civilized Scholar // Homicidal Brute
    ...interesting!
    Not if it's Red/Blue. Color identity is not the same as color.
    “It's possible. But it involves... {checks archives} Nature's Revolt, Opalescence, two Unstable Shapeshifters (one of which started as a Doppelganger), a Tide, an animated land, a creature with Fading, a Silver Wyvern, some way to get a creature into play in response to stuff, some way to get a land into play in response to stuff (a different land from the animated land), and one heck of a Rube Goldberg timing diagram.
    -David DeLaney

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