"StarCityGames.com (Jared) The brainstorm play was analyzed in the HD version from our archives frame by frame to count and track the individual cards drawn. What seems to be a fourth card is actually a shadow caused by a bend in the sleeve. Sorry guys, but this one is on the up and up."
I am very curious for StarCity to release a 5 second video clip of the HD version. I feel like the low res shows fairly well that there are indeed 4 cards.
edit - "The line that passes right by the tip of his ring finger is a shadow on the bottom card's sleeve. This same frame was pointed out to me right after the event and I had the same exact reaction - "Smoking Gun!" - but after reviewing the HD, it is clearly 3 cards."
The 4th card isn't the one by the ring finger. It is the index finger.
Regarding SCG: Basicly what this guy said. If SCG ought to have any further credibility in organizing MtG tournamets they should make a statement/act that condems this kind of behaviour!Originally Posted by MirrorMask
I guess it could be an idea 2 explore.
Oh, so SCG is in on it then? Makes enough sense, they let him do his thing (outrageously bold cheats) and they get a posterboy for their open series. I wouldn't put it past them, SCG will do anything for money. The fact that they sell articles about a game is just beyond fucked to me... They'll do anything that will make them money. SCG's reaction has really soured me against them to be quite frank.
WoTC's prize support for the PT+GPs and the like has actually dropped dramatically in the last ten years, from more than three million to somewhat more than a million (the PPC does not make up the difference).
They should condemn this kind of behavior, but it's not their place nor their responsibility to persecute potential cheaters. As they said, they passed the info on to the DCI and will follow the DCI's ruling. This is why we have a ruling body for sanctioned play, so independent retailers or tournament organizers don't have to deal with this behavior.
Loved how Patrick Chapin manages to point out the subtext in Drew Levin's writing. That being, in spite of writing an article about Alex Bertoncini's devious collections, he has indeed, still managed to focus the point of another article about, you guessed it, himself.
I'm glad he took time out of writing his memoirs to post this though. Nobody writes Drew better than Drew.
thepchapin- "Main issue w @drew_levin post is that it is about himself. I, Me & My appear 271 times & He, His, Alex & Bertoncini appears 171"
Jared at SCG appears very confident that the 4 card brainstorm is only 3. I wish I could see where he is coming from and accept that this is not one of the times Alex cheated. Is anyone else able to graphically illustrate the brainstorm in question?
Well obviously they are not "legally" obliged to do anything before the DCI bans this cheaty face from the MtG. If they really passed the evidence to the DCI, well that's at least something.
But as a each tournament organizer, they have the right to "ban" - deny participation to any person, without neccessary giving the explanation/reasons.. which in this case they have plenty of.
As I said.. They have the right to deny Bertoncini the access to any of the SCG MtG events. If they will not excercise this right.. or make any action in this direction.. then their credibility as MtG TO will suffer.
well not long ago it cost the ANT player a game 1 and semis at GP Amsterdam, if not so he would most likely win the event ...you just have to call judge on yourself
btw. what are those people sitting beside players in the coverage area, not judges obv. and the 1st brainstorm ruling, how could he EVER get of it? you just count the cards in hand and GY = drawing more cards = Game loss
both Kira and Brainstorm incidents show the same - commentators somehow notice but prefer not to discuss it
the question is has to/should/can spectator in the Two explore case call judge on them? (do rules officially somehow deal with this?) ...its 1st grade math obv. rules infraction in crystal clear game state in this case
I am convinced. Why would he do this. Does Alex not realize that cheating to succede is going to have a huge impact in his career. Even if he garnered 20 grand from his dishonesty, he will be put to the bottom of every list of applicants for the rest of his life whenever he applies for a real job. His cheating will end up costing him money unless he wants to work in fast food. There comes a point when most 20 somethings decide grow up and earn a living. He will probably never live this down.
That picture of him with the P9 in his mouth makes me laugh. He traded a great deal of potential future earnings for 14 grand now.
chapin knows all about bending the rules/laws
Twitter Updates:
Anyone following these? I think PV is taking a very calm mediating approach here. Having said that, he seems to be tweeting like a madman.
Nightmare and Chapin are also going off. Anyone have any other good tweets to ease-drop in on? I'm pretty bored at work.
Well, what troubles me is that I played in a 2hg booster draft with Jared and met him second time. He seemed like a rigid, rules orientated guy. If he says he looked carefully at the HD footage and says only 3 exist, that makes me legitimately pause at saying there are 4 cards, even though it -appears- that way.
Yes, a spectator is allowed to request a pause in the game as he gets a judge
Matt Bevenour in real life
AB = Geoff Hurst of Magic
This coming from the same guy who wrote a book about himself? How arrogant. I never cared much for Chapin, and he has no clue what he's talking about. He's all talk, and I'll bet you anything he saw what Bertoncini did on camera while he was commentating and never said a word to cover for him. If you think for one second Bertoncini wouldn't forgo an illegal play willfully, you'd best believe Chapin would catch it. And because it happened, he probably gasped in disbelief in his own mind that someone like Bertoncini would be so brash to do that in front of a live audience to see.
Hardly preposterous from the mindset of two clearly annotated "professionals."
Drew Levin is only under fire from people who refuse to believe what they see and are using it as a scapegoat under the pretext of his prior engagements. None of that matters. He opened the community's eyes up to a professional cheat blissfully at work, and the lemmings that follow(ed) Bertoncini will use any excuse to defend his credibility when visual evidence clearly indicates a rat working his trade.
EDIT: And Jared is turning a blind eye to save face for what is clearly a fourth card off Brainstorm. I have 20/100 vision in both eyes and I could make that shit out without my glasses/contacts in. No matter what, Bertoncini's integrity has gone to shit, and that in the long-run will damage him far worse than any banning he might receive.
This thread makes me sad, but I expected nothing else.
“It's possible. But it involves... {checks archives} Nature's Revolt, Opalescence, two Unstable Shapeshifters (one of which started as a Doppelganger), a Tide, an animated land, a creature with Fading, a Silver Wyvern, some way to get a creature into play in response to stuff, some way to get a land into play in response to stuff (a different land from the animated land), and one heck of a Rube Goldberg timing diagram.”
-David DeLaney
I think the worst thing about this is how it makes cheating look easy. So far he has gotten away with really big cheats while everyone watched him. Now a bunch of amateurs will think it is easy to cheat a little bit. It's going to be hard to prove the integrity of any tournament from now on.
It is hard to prove the things he did as being blatant cheats. I've mulliganed and accidentally drawn seven. I could see people doing it on purpose all the time now. Fucking fuck.
......Sup chess.
I've been playing chess competitively for a decade or so, and trust me, it's no rosier on the other side. Take solace in the fact that no one cares about MTG AI, because chess computers already wreck the best humans on the planet quite easily, and this makes it incredibly tempting to cheat with a cell phone or something.
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