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    Re: [Deck] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm

    Ari Lax wrote an article on SCG Premium today about TES.

    Mostly humorous, but really just beneficial to new TES pilots.
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    Legacy Week - Q & A: How To Count To Ten In 2012 by Ari Lax (AriLax)

    It's a decent read, my name was dropped a sufficient amount of times.

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    I read the intros to all of the SCG articles online, and they all say, "play this at SCG: Dallas."

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    Nice article. I'm thinking out loud here. With the current abundance of tempo-decks, could Xantid Swarm temporarily replace Pyroblast? especially with consideration to a broader meta, such a Grand Prix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt View Post
    Nice article. I'm thinking out loud here. With the current abundance of tempo-decks, could Xantid Swarm temporarily replace Pyroblast? especially with consideration to a broader meta, such a Grand Prix.
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    Is Bolt that common? I know, Delver, but I feel like we have adequate protection in the main against them.. or am I just drawing lucky?

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    Re: [Deck] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm

    I'd think Delver would be a good enough reason to forgo Xantid Swarm. Just about every Tempo deck you'll encounter will be playing it. Xantid Swarm was better in the days of Merfolk.
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    Re: [Deck] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm

    Currently running 3rd silence instead of the 3rd chant. People are starting to run Leyline of sact. out of the board in UW stoneforge.

    Quick question: How prevalent would hate bears have to be in game one before you consider adding anti-hate main in order to deal with it? Do you just hope to find a burning wish in time, or do you cut something in order to fit a few CoV or what have you?
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    Currently running 3rd silence instead of the 3rd chant. People are starting to run Leyline of sact. out of the board in UW stoneforge.

    Quick question: How prevalent would hate bears have to be in game one before you consider adding anti-hate main in order to deal with it? Do you just hope to find a burning wish in time, or do you cut something in order to fit a few CoV or what have you?
    I think it depends entirely on how often you fight prison decks, because I think the flex slots in the sideboard are the Wipe Away, 3rd Pyroblast and Echoing Truths. Although Echoing Truth can arguably handle the hatebears..

    Another Quick Question: I'm getting destroyed by High Tide decks stalling with Remands and FOW and then them storm jacking me to combo off. Any good suggestions or deal breakers to win this match up? The only thing I got is turn 1 ETW, if I can pull it off. If not, I just lose. That deck is pretty pansy and just waits until we go off, which is really annoying me.

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    In my experience, High Tide can just never beat Orim's Chant effects.
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    Chant is about as good as a counterspell against High Tide decks, i.e., fine but not amazing.
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    As a High Tide I player I'd like to leave some comments. Your discard + chant suite is as much as the counters we have. But you can go faster. You also have PiF. Be aggressive and go for those counters. When a storm player Duress/Thoughtseize me if I'm keeping a combo piece and a counterspell it is a tough choice because if I counter it Storm can go off next turn. If I let the Storm player take a look at my hand he can either take the counter and go off next turn or take the combo piece and can assemble a better hand faster than me. Also Spiral Tide goes off at sorcery speed so a chant effect during my upkeep (even if I counter it) puts me back 1 island (assuming Flusterstorm or Pierce) for everything to work out. So the way see it is that High Tide is the obvious control deck in the matchup but have the same amount of disruption as TES has protection but with a slower clock. So I think High Tide should be an easy matchup for Storm but maybe I'm just playing it wrong :)

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    Hey Bryant! So do you prefer pyroclasm over virtue's ruin? I think that mother of runes is a big problem for pyroclasm, becuase of t1 mother t2 hatebear. What do you think about that?

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    Nice report.. but Bryant you left the lands completely out of your deck list.
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    Hey Bryant! So do you prefer pyroclasm over virtue's ruin? I think that mother of runes is a big problem for pyroclasm, becuase of t1 mother t2 hatebear. What do you think about that?

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    The problem with Virtues Ruin is that it's only good versus Maverick. It's not versatile enough for the sideboard. It's also three mana. Spending 5 mana to destroy Mother of Ruins and Hatebear is a lot of time and resources. If that hatebear is Thalia, 6 mana on a Pyroclasm is a lot easier to cast through two turns than 7 mana. In a deck with Lotus Petals and Gemstone Mines as mana sources they're very valuable.

    The other option is Infest. It's better than ruin. But has the downside of costing the same as ruin.

    It's really a toss up, but as of right now I prefer Pyroclasm. It's better in other match-ups including Goblins, Elves, Belcher, and many other creature based match-ups.

    Also, to be honest, if they get Mom and hatebear. You're not out of it, endstep bounce spell, untap, kill team. If you can't get there, there's always game three where you can kill them before they do anything. It's not a bad match-up at all, in fact, it's a good match-up where I had a poor hand game one.

    EDIT: There's always the Wipeaway too.

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    Nice report.. but Bryant you left the lands completely out of your deck list.
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    Why did you sideboard differently against the two burn decks in Round 2 and 3? Which sideboard plan would you recommend in general?

    Also, your matchups in that tournament seem absurdly positive. I can only hope the field at the GP will look like that.
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    Why did you sideboard differently against the two burn decks in Round 2 and 3? Which sideboard plan would you recommend in general?

    Also, your matchups in that tournament seem absurdly positive. I can only hope the field at the GP will look like that.
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    "I decided to try and take out the second Ad Nauseam for the sideboard Ill-Gotten Gains, I never saw it, but in theory it’s just as good if not better against burn."

    This is all I could find about that decision. I tried looking at your other reports too but the only recent one I could find against burn, round one NELCQ – 12/3/11, you did not sideboard, which has only left me more puzzled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryant Cook View Post
    Read closer. I mention it.
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