[DTB] Sneak Attack

[Einherjer]

I just came back from my locals. I took it down with 5-0. That was my list:
//Lands//Fastmana
4 Lotus Petal
4 Ancient Tomb
4 Scalding Tarn
3 Island
2 City of Traitors
2 Volcanic Island
2 Polluted Delta
1 Misty Rainforest
1 Mountain
//Combo
4 Sneak Attack
4 Show and Tell
4 Emrakul, the Aeon's Torn
4 Griselbrand
//Protection
4 Force of Will
2 Misdirection
2 Flusterstorm
2 Spell Pierce
//Tutor/Cantrips
4 Brainstorm
4 Ponder
2 Intuition
1 Preordain
//Sideboard
4 Pithing Needle
3 Red Elemental Blast
3 Surgical Extraction
2 Spell Pierce
1 Grafdigger's Cage
1 Tormod's Crypt
1 Ravenous Trap

Even though I did not need the Pithing Needles I will keep them in as they were very helpful in my testing. My MUs were:

UBW Terminator: 2-0
UBWR Doomsday: 2-0
UB Reanimator: 2-1 (misplay here :/)
UR Delver: 2-1 (misplay again)
LED-Dredge: 2-1

The only match I lost without a misplay as Dredge. I could have taken it down with 10-1 but whatever .P

Deck was fun and it feels ready for a big event:)

Greetings

[Dia_Bot]

First of all, congratz. Secondly how did you feel about the singleton preordain? Did you ever wish it would have been a 3rd intuition instead ?

(btw, I'm asking this bc it's about the only difference with my list )

[rxavage]

Nice job. I'm also getting ready for 2 GPT's and an SCG in the next few weeks. Although I'm expecting alot of RUG and plenty of the other tier1/1.5 decks so I'll be happy walking a way ith a grip of duals or whatnot.

[catmint]

Congrats Phillip! Unfortunately there is a lot more attention for the deck now, so coming to the GP in Gent people will be much more prepared.

[rxavage]

3 in top 8, 4 in top 16. Take shelter the fallout is going to be horrible. Prepare for the hysteria and wide-spread panic.



And SneakShow takes 1st.

[Water_Wizard]

- Tes as well plus they can goblin you out
- The only deck you should side it is versus Belcher. Nuts in this MU!!

I would not side leyline versus burn. They still have enough ways to do damage and you should just keep comboing fast since they cannot interact with it well or beat it.

So, altough I find the Leyline very good I only bring it in versus very few matchups (nic fit, BW, Pox, Junk, Belcher), which are not too bad to start with.

Maybe we should use the slots for something else...

Why do you bring it in against Belcher? Can't they "goblin you out" as well? I understand if they don't realize you've boarded it and they keep a Charbelcher kill hand and then you drop it on them after you both keep. It just seems like it only stops 1/2 their combo and isn't likely worth the 4 slots. Thanks...

[Einherjer]

First of all, congratz. Secondly how did you feel about the singleton preordain? Did you ever wish it would have been a 3rd intuition instead ?

(btw, I'm asking this bc it's about the only difference with my list )

I was playing with 20 lands for such a long time. But as everyone else seemed to be playing well with 19 without the need to cheat XD I thought, yeah why not try it. So I cutted a land for a Preordain and I gotta say... I mulled more often due to few lands but when I had enough lands the 9th Cantrip was pretty powerful. I wouldn't want to play with 3 Intuitions. Maybe you should try to switch the 3rd for a Preordain.

Yeah I got a GPT in two weeks coming. Hopefully I am winning this aswell - 3 Byes are friggen neat for the first GP I attend to :P

I did some changes to the sideboard aswell:
-1 Ravenous Trap -1 Surgical Extraction -1 Red Elemental Blast -1 Pithing Needle + 1 Grafdigger's Cage +3 Echoing Truth
I do not feel like having to hardcast Emrakul/Griselbrand again. Oh I didnt mention it on this forum: In the third game vs Reanimator I boarded out 2 Show and Tell and he Needled my Sneak Attack, I had Cage + Crypt + Surgical. We played draw go for 10-15 turns until I HARDCASTED A GRISELBRAND FOR THE WIN!!!!

Greetings

EDIT: rxavage, which tournament are you refering to?

[Water_Wizard]

We played draw go for 10-15 turns until I HARDCASTED A GRISELBRAND FOR THE WIN!!!!

Greetings

Using 4X Lotus Petal? Wow! Awesome!

I've thought about hardcasting Emmy - 4 Ancient Tomb, 2 COT (tap first before you play second) and lands, LP, never done it yet, and I'm not sure I'm so sorry I haven't :)

Congrats Phillip!

[Sigar]

What's the best card UW miracle control can bring in against Sneak Attack from the SB?

[Einherjer]

What's the best card UW miracle control can bring in against Sneak Attack from the SB?

Ethersworn Canonist, at the first glance weak, is a beast. If he sticks you cannot counter back their counters - which is pretty tough if you ask me.

Yes, using all 4 petals, I had the mana for Emrakul aswell, but topdecked Griselbrand earlier XD Draw-Go ftw :)

Greetings

[catmint]

Why do you bring it in against Belcher? Can't they "goblin you out" as well? I understand if they don't realize you've boarded it and they keep a Charbelcher kill hand and then you drop it on them after you both keep. It just seems like it only stops 1/2 their combo and isn't likely worth the 4 slots. Thanks...

Sure it only stops half of their combo but them having charbelcher "stops" our combo (S&T) since you just loose if they put it into play.Once I had to put Leyline in from a S&T before I could start to kill him just in case he has charbelcher. As for the goblin combo: them comboing off for belcher or goblins should not happen with our counterspells.

[JPA]

3 in top 4, 4 in top 16. Take shelter the fallout is going to be horrible. Prepare for the hysteria and wide-spread panic.



And SneakShow takes 1st.

3 in Top 8 you mean. ;-) Still, pretty insane stuff. Deck to beat, here we come again.

[catmint]

What's the best card UW miracle control can bring in against Sneak Attack from the SB?

They will probably try to setup terminus on our turn in case we sneak attack (but they can do that maindeck). In general I think that UW decks running a bunch of Ethersworn Canonist have a much bigger chance of beating us. We can only Force it and once its there all of our protection is gone. Then the UW player does not need to play another spell, he just needs to counter our bounce or our combo attemp, while canonist starts to kill us slowly. Sure they could run out of counterspells if we are able to apply enough pressure, but it happens rarely that we have that overload of business spells.

[Water_Wizard]

What is the link to view SCG lists before they post to the "Coverage Archives" section? How do I see the lists from today? Thanks!

[catmint]

http://sales.starcitygames.com//deck...num=0&limit=25

Lists are not that exciting to me. Some odd sideboard choices. Not a lot of blood moon or pithing needle around, but stuff like Blue elemental blast or pyroclasm.

[Final Fortune]

Damn, those are some seriously amazing placings there ... RIP Show&Tell?

[Water_Wizard]

Thank you catmint.

When people run Through the Beach in their sideboards, what match ups do they bring it in against and what do they side out? Is it a S&T substitute? An alternate win condition? An extra threat? All of the above???

@Final Fortune - I wouldn't say bye S&T yet, it's just one week and it's an SCG tournament, not a large, sanctioned event.

[Einherjer]

Amazingly 3/4 played 9 Cantrips. Seems to be the way to play.

No, not RIP Show and Tell. There are Decks that can handle this deck very well. People just gotta realise how to beat Show and Tell. Discard+Counter+Clock still work wonder vs our deck. A new-aged TeamAmerica like I play it for fun beats Show and Tell quite regulary. No need to panic, people just need to adapt. Just remember the HiveMind-Hype? Now it's nothing more than an outdated-fringe-deck right? Or CounterThopter is a very bad MUs aswell. As long as there are serveral decks that actually got a GOOD MU vs some "overpowered" deck no bannings will happen.

Greetings

EDIT: Trough the Breach is against decks that Peedle your SneakAttack and you dont want to Show and Tell against speak Show and Tell Mirror and Reanimator!

[Water_Wizard]

Did you notice almost the complete lack of Blood Moon?

[Einherjer]

Did you notice almost the complete lack of Blood Moon?

Yes! I think they came to the same conclusion as I did earlier: Blood Moon is good. But it hinders us too much to be very good. Even though they didn't solve the problem like I did -Peedle they went in the right direction if you ask me.

Greetings