All B/R update speculation.

[PunkRocker1134]

Maybe some pile like belcher. Brainstorm fuels all the storm decks, doomsday and show and tell combo. No way any of those decks can navigate a 7-10 round event with any kind of consistency without brainstorm, if the control and aggro decks still have brainstorm.

Dredge?

[dontbiteitholmes]

Imperial Seal isn't even on the reserved list. WotC should throw it in the next commander deck.

It should be a functional reprint.

[Koby]

It should be a functional reprint.

Aye, I recommend Vampiric Consultation, do keep with the theme for black tutors.

[Awaclus]

300$ say no.

The DCI don't care about the prices of the cards.

[jrw1985]

Ad Neuseam says no.

Umm... Necropotence and Yawgmoth's Bargain say Yes? Those cards are much more similar in function to Griz than Ad Nauseum. Permanents. Pay 1 life: Draw 1 card. That's Griz, only it's arguable that Griz is EASIER to get into play than Yawgmoth's Bargain ever was (Reanimate spells + Sneak Attack vs Academy Rector?)

[caiomarcos]

Umm... Necropotence and Yawgmoth's Bargain say Yes? Those cards are much more similar in function to Griz than Ad Nauseum. Permanents. Pay 1 life: Draw 1 card. That's Griz, only it's arguable that Griz is EASIER to get into play than Yawgmoth's Bargain ever was (Reanimate spells + Sneak Attack vs Academy Rector?)

Replenish also puts bargain into play. Just sayin'...

[dontbiteitholmes]

The DCI don't care about the prices of the cards.

For the most part I would agree, but there is no way they would unban a card knowing it would be $1000. They would either reprint it or leave it banned.

[caiomarcos]

For the most part I would agree, but there is no way they would unban a card knowing it would be $1000. They would either reprint it or leave it banned.

I believe that a $1000 card being unbanned would make no difference for 95% of legacy players.
Not trying to make a counterpoint, just adding some more opinion.

[I am the brainwasher]

Replenish also puts bargain into play. Just sayin'...

...and 1 or 2 mana isn't 4 mana. Just sayin'...

[caiomarcos]

...and 1 or 2 mana isn't 4 mana. Just sayin'...

It seems that I didn't sound like I wanted. I was REALLY just saying that there are other ways to cheat Bargain in play.

[Gheizen64]

It seems that I didn't sound like I wanted. I was REALLY just saying that there are other ways to cheat Bargain in play.

I think the best way to cheat bargain are just accellerating into it with rituals or SnT. With rituals it's a spell that is comparable to Ad Nauseam that allow you to play Forces and 4 copies of the engine but cost 1 more and isn't instant (and has some extra vulnerability, like Revoker). With SnT it's Griselbrand 5-8.

[Lord Seth]

Out of curiosity, is Imperial Seal the most expensive card not on the Reserved List or is there something else? The only competitor that springs to mind is Tarmogoyf, and that's a far cry from Imperial Seal's price tag.

[TraxDaMax]

This format will be hella boring without brainstorm lol. I think grisselmaister is off to bed, even though I bought a playset yesterday. I'll take the gamble.

[wolfstorm]

Out of curiosity, is Imperial Seal the most expensive card not on the Reserved List or is there something else? The only competitor that springs to mind is Tarmogoyf, and that's a far cry from Imperial Seal's price tag.

Mana Drain is decently high to I think

[dontbiteitholmes]

I believe that a $1000 card being unbanned would make no difference for 95% of legacy players.
Not trying to make a counterpoint, just adding some more opinion.

I believe you might be off on your %. People would be very not happy if one of the best tutors in the format was $1000. A playset would cost more than a playset of power.

Out of curiosity, is Imperial Seal the most expensive card not on the Reserved List or is there something else? The only competitor that springs to mind is Tarmogoyf, and that's a far cry from Imperial Seal's price tag.

Yes, by a longshot, unless you are counting technicalities (like Summer edition Serendib Efreet is technically not on the reserved list).

To put it in perspective Seal is worth more than every piece of unlimited power except Lotus.

I think 2nd place might me Imperial Recruiter and 3rd maybe Grim Tutor.

[sroncor1]

Imperial recruiter, and Grim Tutor are both worth more than Mana Drain and far rarer. They are probably the next two I would think.

[dontbiteitholmes]

Imperial recruiter, and Grim Tutor are both worth more than Mana Drain and far rarer. They are probably the next two I would think.

LOL you added this as I edited my post. Great minds think alike.

[Julian23]

I wonder how far Scavenging Ooze is gonna climb before it gets reprinted. It's a really cool and flavorful cards that could fit into a lot of sets.

[Lord Seth]

To put it in perspective Seal is worth more than every piece of unlimited power except Lotus.

Eh? I looked at several price places (e.g. findmagiccards.com, several online stores) and unless I missed something, all of them had only Timetwister Unlimited as costing less.

While admittedly it is a bit of an accomplishment to be worth more than any of the Power 9 (even in Unlimited form), I don't think it's accurate to say only Black Lotus is worth more.

[Julian23]

Checking magiccardsmarket.eu it's definitely gonna cost you more than any of the Moxen. Also slightly more than blue Power. Which leaves us with Lotus as the only contestant.

However, it's really hard to compare since all available Imperial Seal are NM/Mint. Still, it was about as "cheap" as the NM Time Walk, but more expensive than the NM Ancestral Recall. Compared to Ex versions, Imperial Seal wins out against the Power8.