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With Sneak Show becoming popular recently, what alternative do you see Reanimator taking in the SB that doesn't rely on Show & Tell? Is the Show & Tell SB plan not kick in for this matchup? How does Reanimator address potential GY hate from those decks?
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The funny thing is that a fast jin is actually a very good move against sneaky show, especially since they have no real way of dealing with him game 1. Good luck trying to show and tell with only 1 card in hand each turn...
Now for the jin vs griselbrand agrument, I still think that they both deserve a spot. In my local meta there is a lot of storm, and paying 7 life to draw 7 to hope for counters is not all that great aginst them. I've lost games because I only drew daze as a counter and you become a sitting duck at less than 10 life since you used griselbrand with some fetches (he went LED, petal, brainstorm, fetch, ritual, tutor, oh look I can already kill you tendrills).
I will run a 2/1 or a 2/2 split of grisel/jin for now and see what happens. Maybe run a third griselbrand in the future if combo goes down.
Don't bother, the results will do all of the talking for you and you don't need to waste your time and energy trying to convince lesser minded people of the obvious.
Jin/Sphinx just lost their place in Reanimator to Griselbrand, end of story.
I agree with Johanovich here about Jin-Gitaxias. Usually I really like to get Jin over Griselbrand against combo, since (especially game 1) they don't pack sufficient creature removal, forcing them to combo out on the turn after you've dropped Jin.
In my experience they are not very likely to combo out in turn 2 while I drew 7 cards.
I apologize for letting my temper best me, I just get sick of the same person using baseless ad hominem attacks to argue their opinions. Anyways... I would argue that Sphinx has a place in Reanimator as long as RUG and to a lesser degree Maverick are played in significant numbers. Granted Blazing Archon does alot of work but he isn't immune to bolts, nor does he have lifelink.
Which is best vs Maverick: It that Betrays, Pathrazer of Ulamog, or Angel of Despair
Griselbrand. But it would depend on boardstate honestly.
Assume Griselbrand is out of the question. And yea, I understand that it is board state dependent, but which would you want more out of those 3?
Toss-up between It that betrays and Pathrazer but I would go with ITB.
It's funny, because you are the only one spamming the curses. Don't be so Emo and move on.
It that betrays. 2 Turn clock, Annihilator and a pretty decent sideeffect.
Last edited by JDK; 06-14-2012 at 02:43 PM.
Doesn't Reanimator nearly auto-beat Sneak Attack decks?
* We run as much disruption if not more ala discard.
* If they SnT in something, we get AoD / Blazing / Grisle in for free.
* We can discard their Grisle and Reanimate it later.
Pre-board, pretty much, altho' you'll have a bitch of a time post-board if they're prepared for you. The problem is that even tho' Reanimator has strategic superiority, that strategic superiority is way more hateable than Sneak Attack's strategy over the course of a match.
Also if your opponent taps out and you get jin then you essentially get a free draw and a big chance of being able to counter whatever answer they might have in hand. And in that situation jin is still a bit better than grisel since it provides you with another creature most of the time and puts the opponent in topdeck mode (with you being able to keep at least 1 counter for them each turn). Most players will automatically scoop to this situation wether they might not if they see a griselbrand with outs in hand.
I agree with sphinx helping in the RUG (and to a lesser extent maverick) matchups. Also don't forget sphinx is good against burn and goblins. Especially since most goblin lists have started playing extra stingscourgers to combat sneak show.
I might put archon in the main to keep my nonlegend count high enough. I still think elesh norn is a powerhouse, but sadly she doesn't do anything against sneaky show.
Right now my creature suite looks like this:
2 jin
2 griselbrand
1 iona
1 elesh
1 inkwell
1 angel of despair
SB:
1 archon
1 sphinx
(1 gilded drake)
(and yes I admit I was wrong about sneak show and the metagame and started playing gilded drake in the side)
Dunno what to take out for archon or sphinx though...
If you're going for resiliency vs Karakas, I think 4xGriselbrand, Inkwell Leviathon, Blazing Archon and Terrastadon are your best bet, where Inkwell Leviathon and Blazing Archon aren't as good as Iona, Shield of Emeria and Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite they're still good enough to get the job done.
I don't think Sphinx is sufficiently better at what it does than Griselbrand in order to merit a slot in your MD or SB fwiw.
The problem I have with Jin, Gitaxis arguments is that they're always argued under a best case scenario for Jin, Gitaxis resolving thru' Sword to Plowshares, Path to Exile, Dismember and Red Elemental Blast to actually get the Draw Seven and Mind Twist in where being able to Draw 7 to either protect Griselbrand or offset your investment is what makes Griselbrand so incredibly fucking broken.
Does this deck look at all playable?
4 Entomb
4 Intuition
4 Reanimate
4 Exhume
2 Show and Tell
3 Grizz
2 Jin Getaxis
1 Blazing Archon
4 Force
4 Spell Pierce
2 Misdirection
4 Brainstorm
2 Sensei's Divining Top
4 Underground Sea
2 Island
2 Swamp
8 Fetch
4 Lotus Petal
No, you're missing at least 1 fattie. Intuition is too slow for this strategy IMO especiialy considering you're not running Sol-lands.
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Put this deck together a few days ago and have been testing quite a bit. I really can't get behind including Jin in the main deck at all. The point of the four Griselbrands in the main is to add consistency to which fatty you have in your hand for careful study or when you're on the draw discard plan.
I'm choosing GB in the first three turns almost 100% of the time against most decks. The few decks where I'd rather have Jin, I'm content with a GB. Which also leads me to believe that splitting them MD is wrong.
I could see an argument for Jin in a SB plan but I think that adding consistency with problem decks with other cards seems like a better plan since GB is pretty close to as good in most cases as Jin.
I also don't understand getting rid of Archon in the main. Sneak and show is cold to this card in G1 and this protects low life totals from creature decks after reanimating and activating GB.
One thing I have been toying around with for the SB is personal tutor. Allows flexible access to careful study, show and tell, exhume, reanimate...It's definitely not the fastest card in the world but adds a bit of consistency and can potentially be that fourth Show if they land GY hate.
Archon has the main disadvantage of leaving the threats on the field. Right now it is becoming better since show and tell is a matchup you'll likely encounter a lot. If you get archon against decks that pack removal then you can get in trouble if they remove your archon (double bolt against RUG, swords/terminus against maverick, blade, miracle). Elsh norn has the advantage of killing most of the opposite board as soon as she enters the battlefield.
But as I said, because of show and tell, archon is gaining the edge over elesh.
As you say yourself, personal tutor isn't the fastest of cards, which is exacty why many people (including myself) don't like it. Since thought scour is also being played in some RUG delver lists, using personal tutor can become a liability.
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