Yeah yeah, I know it's been talked about to death... But it's sad that this is a losing board situation.
Play your Maze of Ith here.
Play your Ooze as well.
Then end of your opponent's turn flash in Batterskull.
Your next turn flash in Jitte and equip to Batterskull.
If he blocks then kill Griselbrand with Jitte counters.
If he doesn't block he will die in short order.
How did you lose?
yeah seriously, your board state is fine maze lock the griss and race with your skull jitte. If you dont see the out you're doing it wrong. Its almost funny how crappy MWS' UI is, but its almost caught up to MTGO at the same time.
Your fault for playing forests, dude.
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Haven't you heard? When Jizzlebrand hits play, people just scoop.
But seriously I agree, wtf how is that possible. Even if he draws 7 you have plenty of options. He'll be at 8 life, can't attack through Maze, and will lose the race to Batterskull + Jitte.
Also.. Batterskull and 3 Dark Confidant is kinda boss. I take it he's trolling.
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Draw 14
submerge the Ooze
entomb Elesh Norn
Exhume Elesh Norn
Exactly. Everybody giving answers as if drawing 292032 cards would make no difference on the board state.
"Want all, lose all."
Play Blue
Meta shifted.
Would you prefer your opponent have an Emrakul or Progenitus in play?
Racing a Progenitus with a Batterskull isn't that hard. Griselbrand >>> Progenitus.
Tom? Is that you? I thought you were going to go work on DnD?
Enh...fair enough.
Emrakul would probably be more dangerous than Griselbrand in this situation though, unless they got lucky and drew a Karakas.
again, he's got OOZE and ITH! he would command the board very quickly. But please anyone going to GP ATL PLEASE scoop when I resolve a Gris. Id like to have time to read between matches.
He's got OOZE and ITH and you have CARD CARD CARD CARD CARD CARD CARD CARD CARD CARD CARD CARD CARD CARD.
Scooping when your opponent draws 7 or 14 cards just like that is really tempting. A resolved Bargain almost always deserve a scoop, Griselbrand is not that different.
"Want all, lose all."
If you mean attack with just Batterskull token then he won't be able to finish Griselbrand with Jitte counters. Skull + Jitte counters = 6 toughness, Griselbrand has 7.
This attack is wrong since it gives new 7 cards to opponent.
You lost here because your dual land is white border. Don't try to sugar coat it.
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Drawing a bajillion cards could definitely be considered card and board advantage.
In all seriousness, I agree that had it been an Emrakul it would have been worse, I just can't help but feel like when there's a resolved Griselbrand that the clock is ticking until you lose. EDIT: at least with Emrakul you die pretty much instantly, but then again Reanimator doesn't really work with Emmy. :)
What the hell am I going to do with Ooze except prevent more fatties? How do I get through to attack when there's a 7/7 meatsack in front of me? Considering this deck has some good beatdown going, it's still impossible to do much - except some Maze of Ith tech.
Just venting, Griselbrand is ridiculous.
@Koby: I only play the cards I own on MWS :p You and your goddamned super-powered Beta Duals..
Fair discussion: Griselbrand vs. OMFG AMAZING BOARD POSITIOIN!!11 (still a losing one)
Emrakul is the same thing, just as stupid as Griselbrand.
"Want all, lose all."
In the end, its not SNT nor Grizzle what the problem. Its Brainstorm that provides this deck with more consistency than non U decks will have to find the answers.
I made a lot of playtesting against SneakShow with a lot of different decks and answers. In the end, I lost. To Brainstorm.
How cant anybody see, that this cards powerlevel is way above legacys level. Its even restricted in vintage.
Ban it.
Ponder, Merchant Scroll, Burning Wish, Gifts Ungiven, Lotus Petal, Regrowth, and Trinisphere are also restricted in Vintage. This is a non-argument.
Banning Brainstorm just isn't a Good business decision by wizards and so it will reign because the majority let it reign. Legacy Tournaments are up, Attendance is up, There has to be a major shift in both of those before card like brainstorm gets banned.
There is always modern and extended if you dont like brainstorm.
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