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    Quote Originally Posted by Barook View Post
    Rule question: Is the Shaman's first ability instant or mana source speed?
    It has a target, so presumably instant speed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aggro_zombies View Post
    It has a target, so presumably instant speed.
    Right, my bad.

    About RIP:
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    What about running this over Tormod's Crypt/Grafdigger's Cage and a single Helm of Obedience for a pseudo-instant kill?
    That doesn't sound too shabby, considering you can use E-Tutor to fetch both pieces while not having to run black (for LotV), enabling a potential AWESOME splash.

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    The shaman is a really cool card. Does many different things, but still weak enough that you might not want to spend a removal on it if the deck that plays it follows up with a more powerful creature. In a format with fetchland it is a nice noble hieararch. Hoses Snapcaster mage & Dredge while keeping goose, ooze, goyf & knight small. Acts kind of like a relic.

    If the abilities would be without investing mana or the black one would give -2 toughness to a creature it might even have seen some play in legacy.

    Edit: RIP makes Helm better, but its still a 4 mana artifact. It's much better versus taxing counters to play a 1 mana artifact and pay 3 to activate.
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    Sundering Growth definitely looks playable in Legacy SB's. I can see D&T, Maverick and possibly Nic Fit playing this as a 2-of SB. Naturalize and Clone in one card seems pretty solid. Even if Mav already has Pridemage, this will give you an answer to Humility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gheizen64 View Post
    Rest in peace 1W
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    Exile all graveyard. Whenever a card would go in a graveyard from anywhere, exile it.

    Probably the best of the crypt variants for your SB. Morningtide+planar void in a single card is pretty good.
    Really? What next?
    A blue instant for one mana that makes your opponent lose the game if he has twenty or more cards in his graveyard? Why not really stick it to dredge?

    It seems that every other set has efficient graveyard hate. Every other set seems to get some sort of storm.deck hate. Pretty soon Show and Tell decks will be the only viable combo decks in Legacy because of the hate against the other combo decks that Wizards keeps churning out. When Show and Tell becomes the only viable combo deck is probably when Show and Tell will get banned so we are left with no combo decks at all in Legacy.

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    Electrickery

    OK, this card seems awesome. It's spot removal T1 and an asymmetrical sweeper T2, both at instant speed.

    How much play do you think this card will get?

    The Overload mechanic makes this card a 1-sided sweeper for x/1 dorks, which is pretty much 75% of the format. Follow it up with a Relic of Progenitus and it becomes a Mongoose killer as well. Of course it will be good against Goblin tokens and Spirit Tokens and Maverick. It can kill a Delver before it flips or it can wipe RUG's board with the help of Relic. It can sap a Goblin Lackey or clear out all those Krenko Tokens. Or Empty the Warrens tokens. It wrecks Elves.

    Dios Mio. This card might be the shit. The flexibility of the Overload mechanic is just awesome. This could very well find a home in the SB of my Goblin deck.

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    Frankly, I'm more interested in the 1-drop tap spell that's a creature-Gigadrowse for your opponent for 2U. Because that's an awesome Merfolk strike spell.

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    Thinking more about it, the shaman is amazing. Keep those mongoose always 1/1, give you even more reach, can even ramp you if needed. The gain life ability seems the worst one, going to try him in a RB deck. He even removes lands from your opponent's graveyard. Talk about amazing lol.

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    Rest in peace 1W
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    Exile all graveyards. Whenever a card would go in a graveyard from anywhere, exile it.
    Does anyone else see how busted this card is?!? It turns off the primary beatsticks of 2 out of 3 of the tier one decks! This changes everything! Any decks that is not dependant on the gy can run this and AUTOMATICALLY beat any deck with even the slightest gy dependance. This will rock Legacy to it's core. This card is a mistake to print.
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    Re: Return to Ravnica Spoilers

    Rest in peace may read RIP for Mongoose, Tarmogoyf and Snapcaster Mage. What's up with the extreme graveyard hate in this set btw?

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    Inaction Injunction (1U - Instant - Detain target creature & draw a card) could be decent in some tempo deck or perhaps Bant. It's like an improved Ice.

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    Re: Return to Ravnica Spoilers

    Quote Originally Posted by Greenpoe View Post
    Inaction Injunction (1U - Instant - Detain target creature & draw a card) could be decent in some tempo deck or perhaps Bant. It's like an improved Ice.
    It's a sorcery.

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    Re: Return to Ravnica Spoilers

    Quote Originally Posted by Mirrislegend View Post
    Does anyone else see how busted this card is?!? It turns off the primary beatsticks of 2 out of 3 of the tier one decks! This changes everything! Any decks that is not dependant on the gy can run this and AUTOMATICALLY beat any deck with even the slightest gy dependance. This will rock Legacy to it's core. This card is a mistake to print.
    Just like Grafdigger's Cage did? This card is very good but hosers have always proved insufficient in the past. It also does next to nothing against a lot decks, see goblin, Merfolk, Sneak and Show and miracle control. Its effect against Maverick isn't anything to write home about either.

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    Re: Return to Ravnica Spoilers

    Quote Originally Posted by Mirrislegend View Post
    Does anyone else see how busted this card is?!? It turns off the primary beatsticks of 2 out of 3 of the tier one decks! This changes everything! Any decks that is not dependant on the gy can run this and AUTOMATICALLY beat any deck with even the slightest gy dependance. This will rock Legacy to it's core. This card is a mistake to print.


    The card pretty much hoses all unfair decks. Nothing really wrong with it tbh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bilb_o View Post
    Rest in peace may read RIP for Mongoose, Tarmogoyf and Snapcaster Mage. What's up with the extreme graveyard hate in this set btw?
    R&D wants to make sure you know Snapcaster Mage was a mistake.

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    Am I correct that stifle can counter Rest in Peace's exile all graveyards trigger?

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    Rest in Peace is cool with Helm of Obedience, too.

    It is a Replacement Effect, by the way. Gheizen64 incorrectly stated its actual text.

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    Rest In Peace + Energy Field with a full set of Enlightened Tutor, hmmm I might have to make a new deck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zalren View Post
    Rest In Peace + Energy Field with a full set of Enlightened Tutor, hmmm I might have to make a new deck.
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    Re: Return to Ravnica Spoilers

    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood View Post
    Rest in Peace is cool with Helm of Obedience, too.
    I don't think so? Leyline / Helm works because Leyline is a replacement effect so the cards never actually go to the graveyard. The way RIP is worded, it's just a standard triggered ability to me?

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