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[rufus]

I don't think so? Leyline / Helm works because Leyline is a replacement effect so the cards never actually go to the graveyard. The way RIP is worded, it's just a standard triggered ability to me?

As spoiled RIP replaces cards going to graveyards too, so it works. The endless variety of hate seems like a tacit admission they screwed up on stuff.

[Michael Keller]

Rest in Peace's text clearly indicates that it has, in fact, a Replacement Effect built into it.

From the Comp:

614.1a. Effects that use the word "instead" are replacement effects. Most replacement effects use the word "instead" to indicate what events will be replaced with other events.

[jam3sbob]

RIP, first ability triggered, second ability replacement.

i think

[Michael Keller]

RIP, first ability triggered, second ability replacement.

i think

Correct.

[Lord Seth]

Does anyone else see how busted this card is?!? It turns off the primary beatsticks of 2 out of 3 of the tier one decks! This changes everything! Any decks that is not dependant on the gy can run this and AUTOMATICALLY beat any deck with even the slightest gy dependance. This will rock Legacy to it's core. This card is a mistake to print.

Remember how a bunch of people were saying this sort of thing about Grafdigger's Cage?

Remember how Grafidgger's Cage didn't do any of that?

Yeah. This card isn't going to rock Legacy "to its core" any more than Leyline of the Void or Grafdigger's Cage did.

[sdematt]

It might be a useful tool in Death and Taxes, but otherwise, meh.

-Matt

[dontbiteitholmes]

It might be a useful tool in Death and Taxes, but otherwise, meh.

-Matt

Enchantress

[Esper3k]

As spoiled RIP replaces cards going to graveyards too, so it works. The endless variety of hate seems like a tacit admission they screwed up on stuff.

Rest in Peace's text clearly indicates that it has, in fact, a Replacement Effect built into it.

From the Comp:

Sorry, I was looking at the text of RIP that was posted in one of the earlier posts, which didn't have "instead" in it.

[(nameless one)]

It might be a useful tool in Death and Taxes, but otherwise, meh.

-Matt

And Quinn decks (replacing Painter-Stone as its "oops I win button" along with Helm of Obedience for more utility). And to some extent, Parfait due to the same reason.

[sdematt]

Fine, so a few decks, but not things that make up 15% of the format at any one time, therefore, sky is NOT falling.

-Matt

[Greenpoe]

Soul Tithe
1w
Enchantment - Aura Uncommon
Enchant nonland permanent
At the beginning of the upkeep of enchanted permanent's controller, that player sacrifices it unless he or she pays {X}, where X is its converted mana cost.

Could be playable in Stax, replacing Oblivion Ring. They love taxing your mana in a thousand ways, so this could be good.

[mrjumbo03]

Remember how a bunch of people were saying this sort of thing about Grafdigger's Cage?

Remember how Grafidgger's Cage didn't do any of that?

Yeah. This card isn't going to rock Legacy "to its core" any more than Leyline of the Void or Grafdigger's Cage did.

Grafdigger's is different because it left you with a graveyard to work with whereas RIP doesn't. It's both reactive and proactive at the same time. It won't be the most prevalent GY-hate due to it having W in its cost and because of the fact that it affects both players therefore decks wanting to use their GY's wont touch this. But it is clearly an upgrade to what's out there.

[evanmartyr]

Except the Rakdos rare also sucks ass.

Deathrite Shaman looks alright, if not really good. Think of it as a black BoP that can also nuke your opponent, Grim Lavamancer-style. Fetchlands and Wastelands on both sides should be enough to feed it. As for the green part, Ooze does a better job in terms of creature card hating in the GY.

Rule question: Is the Shaman's first ability instant or mana source speed?

Edit: The design of the Unleash cards is highly unimpressive. Even with such a bad keyword, more could have been done.

If the Shaman could exile anything for a mana, but could exile specific things for the life gain/damage effects, it'd be excellent. I don't see it being terribly relevant anywhere but Legacy, which is a shame. It's so cool =/

Regarding the unleash guys...I dunno. It seems like they could have easily had first strike, or haste, or something and been more than fine.

EDIT: Just saw Splatter Thug. 2R for a 2/2 First Striker with Unleash. Dragon Stompy?

[xfxf]

I aggree, I think it's an upgrade. I mean playing this rather than Cage or Crypt can give the white decks a few options to throw curved balls against RUG and Maverick as well. If playing an Enlightened Tutor sideboard throwing a singleton Energy Field in there against tribal decks along with your existing gy hate could be something to be discovered as well.

[wcm8]

RIP is also a pseudo-Humility against RUG, you just need to reserve your removal to pick off the Delvers. While I agree that it's not going to change the format as we know it, the incentive to play Goyf and/or Mongoose, especially in games 2 and 3, might go way down if WXx decks begin packing it in multiples.

[Aggro_zombies]

RIP is also a pseudo-Humility against RUG, you just need to reserve your removal to pick off the Delvers. While I agree that it's not going to change the format as we know it, the incentive to play Goyf and/or Mongoose, especially in games 2 and 3, might go way down if WXx decks begin packing it in multiples.

The only decks that will run this will be fringe decks like Enchantress or white decks with Enlightened Tutor packages in the sideboard. This is arguably better there than Crypt or Relic since it's a replacement effect and can't be Needled.

EDIT: Actually, I can't think of that many decks that have Enlightened Tutor that don't want to use their graveyards in some way. The symmetry really kills this card.

[dontbiteitholmes]

Seems like RIP could be boss in Vintage. Now that Null Rod is terrible MD material it could juice up a deck like Mono-W hatebears by taking that slot and improving your game against Dredge and any decks that abuse the yard or play Goyf.

[wcm8]

The only decks that will run this will be fringe decks like Enchantress or white decks with Enlightened Tutor packages in the sideboard. This is arguably better there than Crypt or Relic since it's a replacement effect and can't be Needled.

I don't see why any deck playing White wouldn't want this card in the sideboard, Enlightened Tutor or not. UWx control decks can just side out their Snapcasters. Maverick doesn't -need- their KotRs to always be huge, especially in most graveyard matchups.

Its interaction with Energy Field and Helm of Obedience actually make it plausible to play it main deck in some sort of UWx control deck. I mean, enough decks are hurt by it on its own, and with these sorts of combos it seems playable beyond just being a fringe sideboard option.

[Cire]

4 Wheel of Sun and Moon
4 Rest In peace
4 Energy Field
4 Enlightened Tutor
4 Sensei's Divining Top

4 Brainstorm
2 Entreat the Angels
2 Terminus

4 Spell Pierce
4 Swords to Plowshares
4 Force of Will

1 Karakas
2 Plains
4 Polluted Delta
4 Tundra
4 Flooded Strand
5 Island

Something Like that?

[Gheizen64]

Seems like RIP could be boss in Vintage. Now that Null Rod is terrible MD material it could juice up a deck like Mono-W hatebears by taking that slot and improving your game against Dredge and any decks that abuse the yard or play Goyf.

I think vintage would prefer Grafdigger. It's more maindeckable as it hose tinker and Oath also. This is more SB material.