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    Re: Gatecrash Spoilers

    Just a noob question: If this priest-guy eats a lightning bolt, do we get to destroy three nonland permanents or just one?

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    Re: Gatecrash Spoilers

    Quote Originally Posted by Vicar in a tutu View Post
    Just a noob question: If this priest-guy eats a lightning bolt, do we get to destroy three nonland permanents or just one?
    It will only trigger once.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Sun View Post
    It will only trigger once.
    Yup. Npw, if it has, say, a Ring of Xathrid on it...This guy is blatantly abusable. It also makes baby Eldrazi cry.

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    Re: Gatecrash Spoilers

    Arcane Teachings + this guy

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    Then why couldn't this guy be 2/1? Or even cooler: 2/1 vigilance...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vicar in a tutu View Post
    Just a noob question: If this priest-guy eats a lightning bolt, do we get to destroy three nonland permanents or just one?
    Just one, because damage is dealt once. But Forced Bolt case is more interesting, I believe it's possible to destroy two permanents by this interaction. Cloning it with Quicksilver Gargantuan is also sweet :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmihael View Post
    Just one, because damage is dealt once. But Forced Bolt case is more interesting, I believe it's possible to destroy two permanents by this interaction. Cloning it with Quicksilver Gargantuan is also sweet :)

    As you cast Forked Bolt, you choose whether to have it deal 2 damage to a single target, or deal 1 damage to each of two targets. So no, you still can only chose one permanent to get destroyed this way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holly View Post
    As you cast Forked Bolt, you choose whether to have it deal 2 damage to a single target, or deal 1 damage to each of two targets. So no, you still can only chose one permanent to get destroyed this way.
    You are right. Reading is the tech. Is there any card available that can deal damage multiple times before SBA happen?

    Update: there're at least Pyrokinesis that can do it.
    Update2: Infernal Harvest can do it in black. Cute, but still not Legacy-worthy.

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    Would be more interesting if had 2 toughness. As it stands, it's basically a glorified deathtouch/crappy Vindicate with a potential for shitty comboes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vicar in a tutu View Post
    Then why couldn't this guy be 2/1? Or even cooler: 2/1 vigilance...
    Purity of design.

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    The non-land clause is stupid. It wouldn't be "bad" because people would learn not to attack into it when they are at 2 lands or less, and using it as a proactive disruption would mean that you'd waste 2 cards and 3 mana at least to destroy a land, hardly overpowered, even with LD costing 4 those days. Could've made a nice deck there, with Vindicate, Sink Hole, and this. Pew pew pew.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kjell View Post
    Purity of design.
    The same reason Thalia was 2/1 and had First Strike in addition to the the Thorn of Amethyst-effect?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vicar in a tutu View Post
    The same reason Thalia was 2/1 and had First Strike in addition to the the Thorn of Amethyst-effect?
    Legend vs non-Legend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gheizen64 View Post
    The non-land clause is stupid. It wouldn't be "bad" because people would learn not to attack into it when they are at 2 lands or less, and using it as a proactive disruption would mean that you'd waste 2 cards and 3 mana at least to destroy a land, hardly overpowered, even with LD costing 4 those days. Could've made a nice deck there, with Vindicate, Sink Hole, and this. Pew pew pew.
    Because Wizards current idea of fun is a format of 10-15 lands in play where you use your third Restoration Angel to flicker yet another Thragtusk.

    The priest might not be too bad with Aether Vial and especially a charged Jitte, though.

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    Re: Gatecrash Spoilers

    Would activating Pestilence over and over work? Or would the first dmg resolve thus killing him, but you could in response deal another?

    I agree on the non-land. Sure, if he were 2 or more toughness then it would too nuts, but WB, 1/1 -- c'mon! I would love to see either a smallpox variant (or of its ilk) or a solid WB land destruction. 3 hybrid mana: destroy two target non-basic lands. That would be hot.

    EDIT: He's still pretty sweet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by H3llsp4wn View Post
    Legend vs non-Legend.
    Then I suggest renaming him "Humphry Dumphry, High Priest of Penitance" and changing him to a 2/1 legend with the stated ability. Heck, even slap vigilance on him. Wizards knew when they made Snapcaster Mage that the card was absolutely amazing. Why couldn't they have pushed this card the same way? I mean, Abrupt Decay and Deathrite Shaman were great. Maybe it's just my (current) disapointment with the set that makes me a bit frustrated. We need something cool for B/W, G/R and W/R (especially the last two). It can't all come in this set, but i hope we at least get one or two kickass cards in one of these combinations. I'm starting to think that if they made Vindicate today, it would have cost 2BW and read: "Destroy target non-land permanent".

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    Yep, we need as much insane cards as possible...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vicar in a tutu View Post
    Then I suggest renaming him "Humphry Dumphry, High Priest of Penitance" and changing him to a 2/1 legend with the stated ability. Heck, even slap vigilance on him. Wizards knew when they made Snapcaster Mage that the card was absolutely amazing. Why couldn't they have pushed this card the same way? I mean, Abrupt Decay and Deathrite Shaman were great. Maybe it's just my (current) disapointment with the set that makes me a bit frustrated. We need something cool for B/W, G/R and W/R (especially the last two). It can't all come in this set, but i hope we at least get one or two kickass cards in one of these combinations. I'm starting to think that if they made Vindicate today, it would have cost 2BW and read: "Destroy target non-land permanent".
    Can't have more than one legend per color combination due to guild leaders and the absence of guild champions. I'm still waiting for the day when we get the creature version of Chains of Mephistopheles - preferable with Flash and Deathtouch for maximum playability and flexibility - because fuck Brainstorm.

    And if Maelstrom Pulse is any indication, Vindicate would still cost , but with non-land clause added. Seriously, the "make LD as unplayable as possible"-stance is annoying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sco0ter View Post
    [B]¿High Priest of Penance?
    ...
    Hm... any way to abuse him?
    Sword of Fire and Ice seems good. Not sure he's anything special with it though.
    He's free to play with Edgewalker, and some other tribal stuff for clerics and humans that give him toughness.
    You can recycle him with Order of Whiteclay.

    Would activating Pestilence over and over work? Or would the first dmg resolve thus killing him, but you could in response deal another?
    IIRC, 'dealing damage' is when it's marked on the creature, so it would kill him on the first pop.

    the creature version of Chains of Mephistopheles - preferable with Flash and Deathtouch for maximum playability and flexibility - because fuck Brainstorm.
    Chains has text that's way too long and is too messy. I'd rather see a creature with "If a card would be put on top of a library from anywhere, exile it instead. If a player would look at cards from the top of his or her library, exile it instead."

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    Re: Gatecrash Spoilers

    Just make a playable version of underworld dreams. Something like:

    Bargain of the Underworld BBB
    Everytime a player draw a card, he lose 1 life.
    At the beginning of each player's end step, that player draw a card.

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