[DTB] Sneak Attack

[Anusien]

Thanks for the comment about bounce vs. stifle. But are you sure about the triggered ability? My understanding (and I think others') is that stifle counters the delayed trigger when cast in response to the @ end of turn trigger going on the stack.

This.

For clarify, Sneak Attack's activated ability creates a delayed triggered ability to sacrifice the creature at the end of the turn. If you counter that trigger, the creature will stick around and it will never trigger again for that creature.

[kaosjr]

It seems as though you can stifle the delayed trigger. Judges lied to me :(

[kaosjr]

I'll write up something of a tournament report. I don't quite remember matches but I'll do sideboarding techniques, etc.

[JPA]

I'll write up something of a tournament report. I don't quite remember matches but I'll do sideboarding techniques, etc.

Awesome!

Major congrats on your great win! I like your list's configuration a lot.

[pavlaugh]

I'll write up something of a tournament report. I don't quite remember matches but I'll do sideboarding techniques, etc.

Looking forward to it!

[defector]

Well done!! Looking forward to the report:)):)

[coma]

Congrats to your result.
I'm so curious to read your report and side in/out .

Great

[yankeedave]

Hey Ya'll

I have had a lot of experience with this deck in the last 8 months or so, but I always struggle with what to SB out when I am playing. The primer at the beginning it totally out of date, so does someone with a good ability to write primers fancy maybe doing an update? I am shockingly bad at that kind of thing, but one of you guys must be good! Otherwise, what do people side in/out for matchups?

Thanks

Dave

[elgoff]

Way to go Zack Mullin (kaosj)!!

I've been playing variant of the deck for almost a year by now.

I have a question for you Zack, why did you choose to go with SNEAK ATTACK/SnT over Omniscience/SnT ?
(anybody with lot of experience with the deck could provide an answer here...)

Also curious to read your report and side in/out .

props again!!

[kaosjr]

I'll be writing my "tournament report" tonight so be sure to check it out tomorrow. There's a possibility I'll write a new primer as well.

[Koby]

Way to go Zack Mullin (kaosj)!!

I've been playing variant of the deck for almost a year by now.

I have a question for you Zack, why did you choose to go with SNEAK ATTACK/SnT over Omniscience/SnT ?
(anybody with lot of experience with the deck could provide an answer here...)

Also curious to read your report and side in/out .

props again!!

The former is a 2-card combo deck, the latter is a 3-card combo deck.
The latter is objectively more powerful due to flexibility, but also vulnerable to Storm hate if the BWish method is used.

Sneak can be cast, Omni cannot.

[kaosjr]

I chose sneak attack over the omniscience version for several reasons. I played the omniscience version for a few months but it is forced to play less counterspells which opens itself up to hymn to tourach, liliana, etc which are obvious problems for the deck. While slightly more consistent, my version is more threat heavy and is a 2 card combo instead of three (show and tell, omniscience, win con). Sneak attack is also much better than show and tell in many matchups. If they put a knight of the reliquary in play, their own eldrazi, primeval Titan (that happened in top 8 of Edison), humility, etc. it is quite bad for us. Sneak attack also can't be REB'd which is pretty relevant. Sneak attack also plays around a lot of hate cards including the most popular in Karakas since you just put the creature back into play. The main reason for no omniscience is, like previously stated, that you're making yourself more consistent because you're only looking for 2 cards instead of three, and you are much more threat heavy against counterspell decks.

[kaosjr]

Also surgical extraction on show and tell if you're playing the omniscience version just blows you out.

[LockedDown]

Grats on your finish man, I just had a few questions. Me, you, and Josh had an almost identical main deck, I was the one who ended 14th with Sneak and Show, but, you did not play the 3rd misdirection was there a particular reason for this? You were also playing stifle, how good was that card for you throughout the day? And finally did you ever think about Blood Moon as a sideboard option?

[elgoff]

I'll be waiting for your report, thanks for the notes. :)

By the way OmniTell version doesn't die to Extraction, you still have 4 Burning Wish and a SnT on the board.

But I'm taking consideration for going back to Sneak and Show...that's why I'll be waiting for your report before doing so. Reading + testing before Pro Tour Montreal (Team Trio side event_) seems logic!!!

[kaosjr]

Grats on your finish man, I just had a few questions. Me, you, and Josh had an almost identical main deck, I was the one who ended 14th with Sneak and Show, but, you did not play the 3rd misdirection was there a particular reason for this? You were also playing stifle, how good was that card for you throughout the day? And finally did you ever think about Blood Moon as a sideboard option?

Stifle was very very good. In retrospect a 3rd misdirection is probably worth playing with all the discard in the current meta. Blood moon in the board? I never really thought about that. I suppose since everyone is being super greedy with their mana bases it would probably be very good. I'll have to test it out. Stifle basically shuts down all the hate that people are siding against us including liliana edict, jace bounce, karakas, oblivion ring/angel of despair, and many others.

[mistercakes]

congrats on your win. i'm the doomsday guy from your round 4. i have to ask, why did you choose not to play show and tell grisel on turn 2 with force backup vs doomsday? it really threw me off when i cast cabal therapy, but it seems like you just gave me a free turn just for the sake of it.

[kaosjr]

congrats on your win. i'm the doomsday guy from your round 4. i have to ask, why did you choose not to play show and tell grisel on turn 2 with force backup vs doomsday? it really threw me off when i cast cabal therapy, but it seems like you just gave me a free turn just for the sake of it.

I think i had a spell pierce as well and was waiting to make another land drop to play around silence + doomsday

[kaosjr]

Just finished my tournament report. Please comment and/or ask any questions you may have. I'm thinking about writing a new primer for the deck... thoughts?

Tournament Report: http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/s...140#post704140

[defector]

Well done!! Great report, i dislike the leyline plan as well. I am not sold in stifle but ill test it. Anyway good job:)