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Thread: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBx Explorer Zenith Control)

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    Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)

    Voice in general might be a nice back up tool for when Nic Fit can't find those Explorers

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    I think Rector would appreciate another threat in the two drop slot so I could see voice being viable

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    Hey all I'm having a bit of an issue with Jund using a pretty generic Rector build. Any suggestions on how to make the matchup more winnable?

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    BUG nicfit

    3 Veteran Explorer
    2 Eternal Witness
    2 Vendilion Clique
    1 Venser, Shaper Savant
    1 Thragtusk
    1 Prime Speaker Zegana

    3 Force of Will
    4 Brainstorm
    2 Dimir Charm
    2 Curfew
    2 Far // Away

    4 Green Sun's Zenith
    4 Cabal Therapy

    4 Jace, the Mind Sculptor

    4 Pernicious Deed

    2 Underground Sea
    1 Tropical Island
    1 Bayou
    3 Forest
    4 Island
    1 Swamp
    4 Misty Rainforest
    4 Polluted Delta
    1 Verdant Catacombs


    SB: 2 Notion Thief
    SB: 3 Thoughtseize
    SB: 2 Negate
    SB: 1 Force of Will
    SB: 1 Scavenging Ooze
    SB: 2 Abrupt Decay
    SB: 1 Deathrite Shaman
    SB: 2 Carpet of Flowers
    SB: 1 Scavenging Ooze

    What you guys think of this fresh dragon maze BUGfit list? SB just kinda random atm, since havnt playtested it enough to really know what it needs.

    The removal suit is very bounce heavy although it synergizes well with witness/thrag/clique and cabal and i've played similair lists before maze and think the far//away addition is actually quite sweet and really makes sense in a BUGfit list trying to MD force, since it helps alot with bluecount.

    This list is Beta however and could definetly use some help from you guys although i really belive it has nice potential!

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    Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)

    Quote Originally Posted by plogan View Post
    Hey all I'm having a bit of an issue with Jund using a pretty generic Rector build. Any suggestions on how to make the matchup more winnable?
    G1 is usually difficult but in our favor, like 51-49 lol. Not sure about Rector though. Keep a hand with good disruption and removal even post-Thoughtseize and you should be fine. I like Obstinate Baloth, but it seems a bit too narrow for my taste. Thrun is the hero here.

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    Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)

    Quote Originally Posted by drfontaine View Post
    BUG nicfit

    3 Veteran Explorer
    2 Eternal Witness
    2 Vendilion Clique
    1 Venser, Shaper Savant
    1 Thragtusk
    1 Prime Speaker Zegana

    3 Force of Will
    4 Brainstorm
    2 Dimir Charm
    2 Curfew
    2 Far // Away

    4 Green Sun's Zenith
    4 Cabal Therapy

    4 Jace, the Mind Sculptor

    4 Pernicious Deed

    2 Underground Sea
    1 Tropical Island
    1 Bayou
    3 Forest
    4 Island
    1 Swamp
    4 Misty Rainforest
    4 Polluted Delta
    1 Verdant Catacombs


    SB: 2 Notion Thief
    SB: 3 Thoughtseize
    SB: 2 Negate
    SB: 1 Force of Will
    SB: 1 Scavenging Ooze
    SB: 2 Abrupt Decay
    SB: 1 Deathrite Shaman
    SB: 2 Carpet of Flowers
    SB: 1 Scavenging Ooze

    What you guys think of this fresh dragon maze BUGfit list? SB just kinda random atm, since havnt playtested it enough to really know what it needs.

    The removal suit is very bounce heavy although it synergizes well with witness/thrag/clique and cabal and i've played similair lists before maze and think the far//away addition is actually quite sweet and really makes sense in a BUGfit list trying to MD force, since it helps alot with bluecount.

    This list is Beta however and could definetly use some help from you guys although i really belive it has nice potential!
    I like the idea and I will probably test it out at some point.

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    Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)

    I finished 11th on last tournament May 5, 2013 with a total of 70+ players using my Punishing Nic-Fit. Got lost to RUG mana flood, and OmniTel topped deck a burning wish :(
    here's the list that i used.

    Punishing Nic-Fit

    Creatures : 13

    4 Veteran Explorer
    2 Huntmaster of the Fells
    1 Broodmate Dragon
    1 Scavenging Ooze
    1 Eternal Witness
    1 Thragtusk
    1 Thrun, the Last Troll
    1 Deathrite Shaman
    1 Primeval Titan

    Spells : 24
    4 Green Sun's Zenith
    4 Cabal Therapy
    4 Punishing Fire
    3 Pernicious Deed
    3 Sensei's Divining Top
    3 Abrupt Decay
    2 Maelstrom Pulse
    1 Garruk, Primal Hunter

    Lands : 23
    4 Grove of the Burnwillows
    4 Verdant Catacombs
    3 Forest
    2 Wooded Foothills
    2 Bayou
    2 Mountain
    2 Swamp
    1 Taiga
    1 Badlands
    1 Phyrexian Tower
    1 Volrath's Stronghold

    Sideboard : 15

    3 Thoughtseize
    3 Carpet of Flowers
    2 Chains of Mephistopheles
    2 Slaughter Games
    2 Pyroblast
    2 Surgical Extraction
    1 Red Elemental Blast

    here my match ups

    2-0 Esper Blade
    2-0 Esper Blade
    2-0 Merfolk
    1-2 RUG
    1-2 OmniTel
    2-0 Sneak Show
    2-0 Hive Mind but definitely a 2-1 game he just gave me a sweep so i can move up to the standing.

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    Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)

    Looks VERY similar to my old PFire list (pre Abrupt Decay though). I like it a lot. Garruk Primal Hunter is insane.
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    So I'm working on building out Scapewish right now, and I could use some advice on the creature base.

    In terms of the "core" set of creatures, it really seem like it's this:

    4 Veteran Explorer
    1-2 Wood Elves
    1-2 Sakura Tribe Elder
    1-2 Eternal Witness

    After that, what are people favorite options? Mostly one-of's, and relying on Green Sun's Zenith to fetch what you need? Or more redundancy?

    The options I'm looking at right now are:
    Huntmaster of the Fells
    Thrun, the Last Troll
    Thragtusk
    Primeval Titan
    Avenger of Zendikar

    Are there are any particular options I'm missing that you like? Or a particular mix that people feel is "optimal"?

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    Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)

    Quote Originally Posted by drfontaine View Post
    BUG nicfit

    3 Veteran Explorer
    2 Eternal Witness
    2 Vendilion Clique
    1 Venser, Shaper Savant
    1 Thragtusk
    1 Prime Speaker Zegana

    3 Force of Will
    4 Brainstorm
    2 Dimir Charm
    2 Curfew
    2 Far // Away

    4 Green Sun's Zenith
    4 Cabal Therapy

    4 Jace, the Mind Sculptor

    4 Pernicious Deed

    2 Underground Sea
    1 Tropical Island
    1 Bayou
    3 Forest
    4 Island
    1 Swamp
    4 Misty Rainforest
    4 Polluted Delta
    1 Verdant Catacombs


    SB: 2 Notion Thief
    SB: 3 Thoughtseize
    SB: 2 Negate
    SB: 1 Force of Will
    SB: 1 Scavenging Ooze
    SB: 2 Abrupt Decay
    SB: 1 Deathrite Shaman
    SB: 2 Carpet of Flowers
    SB: 1 Scavenging Ooze

    What you guys think of this fresh dragon maze BUGfit list? SB just kinda random atm, since havnt playtested it enough to really know what it needs.

    The removal suit is very bounce heavy although it synergizes well with witness/thrag/clique and cabal and i've played similair lists before maze and think the far//away addition is actually quite sweet and really makes sense in a BUGfit list trying to MD force, since it helps alot with bluecount.

    This list is Beta however and could definetly use some help from you guys although i really belive it has nice potential!
    Progenitor Mimic also seem like a perfect card for the bug version a gsz:able clone that will end up taking over the game. And becomes insane with with recurring nightmare as you can stack up the "it gains "At the beginning of your upkeep, if this creature isn't a token, put a token onto the battlefield that's a copy of this creature."".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rizso View Post
    Progenitor Mimic also seem like a perfect card for the bug version a gsz:able clone that will end up taking over the game. And becomes insane with with recurring nightmare as you can stack up the "it gains "At the beginning of your upkeep, if this creature isn't a token, put a token onto the battlefield that's a copy of this creature."".
    What if there are no creatures on the battlefield and you top deck this card?

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    Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)

    Quote Originally Posted by Star|Scream View Post
    What if there are no creatures on the battlefield and you top deck this card?
    Pretty much the same you do with Zegana.. Waiting. With nothing on the board you arent exaclty pressured to play it anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rizso View Post
    Pretty much the same you do with Zegana.. Waiting. With nothing on the board you arent exaclty pressured to play it anyway.
    What if there's a planeswalker on the other side of the board or against a combo player? What I'm getting at is it does nothing on its' own in a deck that's supposed to have the best top decks in the game.

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    Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)

    I am playing a GB Version of nic fit, been piloting it for like a year and i won the mdss in quebec city back on december, since then my deck have changed alot but with all the modifications i made, still love the aggressive version... so here are my 3 versions of G/B nic fit that i playtest for like a while... give me your advice and thanx for the help.
    __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
    PUNCH-ing Nic-fit
    Creatures (19):
    1x Starved Rusalka
    2x Deathrite Shaman
    4x Veteran Explorer
    3x Strongleroot Geist
    2x Scavenging ooze
    2x Eternal Witness
    1x Wickerbough elder
    1x Thrun the last Troll
    1x Derranged Hermit
    2x Grave titan

    Other spells (20):
    1x Diabolic Intent
    4x Cabal Therapy
    4x Abrupt Decay
    2x Maelstrom Pulse
    3x Pernicious Deeds
    4x Green sun's zenith
    2x Garruk, primal hunter

    Lands (21):
    1x Phyrexian Tower
    1x Dryad Arbor
    4x Verdant catacombs
    4x Misty Rainforest
    3x Bayou
    5x Forest
    3x Swamp
    __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
    G/B Control Nic-fit
    Creatures (13):
    1x Deathrite Shaman
    4x Veteran Explorer
    2x Savenging ooze
    2x Eternal Witness
    1x Trhun the last troll
    1x Kodama Of the north tree
    1x Thragtusk
    1x Primeval Titan

    Other Spells (24):
    3x Sensei's divining top
    4x Cabal Therapy
    3x Abrupt Decay
    3x Hymn to tourach
    2x Maeltrom pulse
    3x Pernicious deeds
    3x Green sun's zenith

    3x Lilliana of the veil

    Land (23):
    1x Phyrexian Tower
    1x Volrath Stronghold
    2x Treetop Village
    4x Verdant catacombs
    4x Misty Rainforest
    3x Bayou
    5x Forest
    3x Swamp
    __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    Hybrid G/B Nic-Fit

    Creatures (14):
    2x Deathrite Shaman
    4x Veteran Explorer
    2x Scavenging ooze
    2x Eternal Witness
    1x Thrun the last Troll
    1x Thragtusk
    1x Grave titan
    1x Primeval Titan

    Other spells (25):
    3x Sensei's divining top
    4x Cabal Therapy
    3x Abrupt Decay
    3x Hymn to tourach
    2x Maelstrom pulse
    3x Pernicious deeds
    4x Green sun's zenith

    3x Lilliana of the veil

    Lands (21):
    1x Phyrexian Tower
    1x Volrath Stronghold
    4x Verdant catacombs
    4x Misty Rainforest
    3x Bayou
    5x Forest
    3x Swamp

    So here are 3 deck that i played between since december... btw sorry i dont know how to put the irl of the cards... first post so!

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    Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)

    Quote Originally Posted by Savardpower View Post
    I am playing a GB Version of nic fit, been piloting it for like a year and i won the mdss in quebec city back on december, since then my deck have changed alot but with all the modifications i made, still love the aggressive version... so here are my 3 versions of G/B nic fit that i playtest for like a while... give me your advice and thanx for the help.
    __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
    PUNCH-ing Nic-fit
    Creatures (19):
    1x Starved Rusalka
    2x Deathrite Shaman
    4x Veteran Explorer
    3x Strongleroot Geist
    2x Scavenging ooze
    2x Eternal Witness
    1x Wickerbough elder
    1x Thrun the last Troll
    1x Derranged Hermit
    2x Grave titan

    Other spells (20):
    1x Diabolic Intent
    4x Cabal Therapy
    4x Abrupt Decay
    2x Maelstrom Pulse
    3x Pernicious Deeds
    4x Green sun's zenith
    2x Garruk, primal hunter

    Lands (21):
    1x Phyrexian Tower
    1x Dryad Arbor
    4x Verdant catacombs
    4x Misty Rainforest
    3x Bayou
    5x Forest
    3x Swamp
    __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
    G/B Control Nic-fit
    Creatures (13):
    1x Deathrite Shaman
    4x Veteran Explorer
    2x Savenging ooze
    2x Eternal Witness
    1x Trhun the last troll
    1x Kodama Of the north tree
    1x Thragtusk
    1x Primeval Titan

    Other Spells (24):
    3x Sensei's divining top
    4x Cabal Therapy
    3x Abrupt Decay
    3x Hymn to tourach
    2x Maeltrom pulse
    3x Pernicious deeds
    3x Green sun's zenith

    3x Lilliana of the veil

    Land (23):
    1x Phyrexian Tower
    1x Volrath Stronghold
    2x Treetop Village
    4x Verdant catacombs
    4x Misty Rainforest
    3x Bayou
    5x Forest
    3x Swamp
    __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    Hybrid G/B Nic-Fit

    Creatures (14):
    2x Deathrite Shaman
    4x Veteran Explorer
    2x Scavenging ooze
    2x Eternal Witness
    1x Thrun the last Troll
    1x Thragtusk
    1x Grave titan
    1x Primeval Titan

    Other spells (25):
    3x Sensei's divining top
    4x Cabal Therapy
    3x Abrupt Decay
    3x Hymn to tourach
    2x Maelstrom pulse
    3x Pernicious deeds
    4x Green sun's zenith

    3x Lilliana of the veil

    Lands (21):
    1x Phyrexian Tower
    1x Volrath Stronghold
    4x Verdant catacombs
    4x Misty Rainforest
    3x Bayou
    5x Forest
    3x Swamp

    So here are 3 deck that i played between since december... btw sorry i dont know how to put the irl of the cards... first post so!
    Its great to see the strangleroot geist in a Nic Fit list. I ran them for a while and really liked them. I'm not sure how effective they were due to my poor playing, but; I do know that the initial derision they met by opponents on game one, was not there on game two.

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    Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)

    Quote Originally Posted by kabards View Post
    I finished 11th on last tournament May 5, 2013 with a total of 70+ players using my Punishing Nic-Fit. Got lost to RUG mana flood, and OmniTel topped deck a burning wish :(
    here's the list that i used.

    Punishing Nic-Fit

    Creatures : 13

    4 Veteran Explorer
    2 Huntmaster of the Fells
    1 Broodmate Dragon
    1 Scavenging Ooze
    1 Eternal Witness
    1 Thragtusk
    1 Thrun, the Last Troll
    1 Deathrite Shaman
    1 Primeval Titan

    Spells : 24
    4 Green Sun's Zenith
    4 Cabal Therapy
    4 Punishing Fire
    3 Pernicious Deed
    3 Sensei's Divining Top
    3 Abrupt Decay
    2 Maelstrom Pulse
    1 Garruk, Primal Hunter

    Lands : 23
    4 Grove of the Burnwillows
    4 Verdant Catacombs
    3 Forest
    2 Wooded Foothills
    2 Bayou
    2 Mountain
    2 Swamp
    1 Taiga
    1 Badlands
    1 Phyrexian Tower
    1 Volrath's Stronghold

    Sideboard : 15

    3 Thoughtseize
    3 Carpet of Flowers
    2 Chains of Mephistopheles
    2 Slaughter Games
    2 Pyroblast
    2 Surgical Extraction
    1 Red Elemental Blast

    here my match ups

    2-0 Esper Blade
    2-0 Esper Blade
    2-0 Merfolk
    1-2 RUG
    1-2 OmniTel
    2-0 Sneak Show
    2-0 Hive Mind but definitely a 2-1 game he just gave me a sweep so i can move up to the standing.
    Cerberus Open? Congrats on the finish! Sad I couldn't go, there was a sudden family thing :(

    I have exactly the same main deck except +1 Eternal Witness -1 Abrupt Decay but I'm about to cut the Witness for another Garruk :D

    SB I'd play TS if I had them, but I was planning on playing -3 TS -2 Chains +1 Pyroblast +2 REB +2 Innocent Blood LOL

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    Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)

    Quote Originally Posted by sherko7 View Post
    Cerberus Open? Congrats on the finish! Sad I couldn't go, there was a sudden family thing :(

    I have exactly the same main deck except +1 Eternal Witness -1 Abrupt Decay but I'm about to cut the Witness for another Garruk :D

    SB I'd play TS if I had them, but I was planning on playing -3 TS -2 Chains +1 Pyroblast +2 REB +2 Innocent Blood LOL
    i'll be changing my SB list this coming june will be using choke and duress

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    Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)

    Hey guys. Thinking about getting back into Nic Fit because it really is my favorite deck in the format. What is an updated Scapefit variant?
    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Cheese View Post
    I've been taking shitty brews and tier 2 decks to tournaments and losing with them for years now. Welcome to the club. We meet for cocktails after round 6.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stevestamopz View Post
    Top quality german restraint there.

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    Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)

    Quote Originally Posted by Megadeus View Post
    Hey guys. Thinking about getting back into Nic Fit because it really is my favorite deck in the format. What is an updated Scapefit variant?
    My sig is still up-to-date. I haven't found anything to change (aside from periodically shifting the board for meta concerns). Everything has been fantastic.

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    Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)

    Is chameleon collossus really that good? It seems underwhelming
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