CatPost

[beez]

LOL, always fun to use some Goat tokens.

[klaus]

I'm positive you'll struggle big time against any deck packing Wastelands and applying early pressure.
More often than not you'll find yourself not being able to ramp up to 4-5 on time, problem being your curve is so high that you won't be able to do much in the meantime, which is why I'm advocating to trade some of the MD sweepers for a full set of either STP or Chalice.

[baghdadbob]

I'm positive you'll struggle big time against any deck packing Wastelands and applying early pressure.
More often than not you'll find yourself not being able to ramp up to 4-5 on time, problem being your curve is so high that you won't be able to do much in the meantime, which is why I'm advocating to trade some of the MD sweepers for a full set of either STP or Chalice.

This. I prefer swords because you don't run any tombs/citys for the turn 1 chalice. Also marble diamond just sucks so hard because it comes into play tapped. Although I don't know what I would replace it with.

4x White Sun's Zenith
4x Martial Coup
2x Decree of Justice
4x Swords to Plowshare
3x Wrath of God
2x Day of Judgment
4x Expedition Map
1x Gauntlet of Power
2x Everflowing Chalice
4x Gilded Lotus
4x Oblivion Ring
4x Cloudpost
4x Glimmerpost
4x Vesuva
4x Wasteland
10x Plains

[jarvisyu]

It's CAT O'CLOCK.

[beez]

This. I prefer swords because you don't run any tombs/citys for the turn 1 chalice. Also marble diamond just sucks so hard because it comes into play tapped. Although I don't know what I would replace it with.

4x White Sun's Zenith
4x Martial Coup
2x Decree of Justice
4x Swords to Plowshare
3x Wrath of God
2x Day of Judgment
4x Expedition Map
1x Gauntlet of Power
2x Everflowing Chalice
4x Gilded Lotus
4x Oblivion Ring
4x Cloudpost
4x Glimmerpost
4x Vesuva
4x Wasteland
10x Plains

Really like your list a lot

I do see your guys point. And perhaps I am indeed being too greedy and it is worth it to save myself some early beats from Delver and Goyf, Bob, merfolk lords etc until I stabalize and control the creature board. So far I have just endured a couple of wastelands each game as I can get more posts than they have wastelands, but since more than 50% of Legacy decks run Wasteland perhaps I should just maindeck the Pithing Needles and name Wasteland right off the bat. Particularly since I dont like Wasteland in my own deck cause it is yet more colorless mana when I actually do need some white, it messes with my curve and I dont particularly care what lands the other player has, and I am certainly not running tempo. With any extra Needles I could name Jace or whatever I see they are pkaying. Or Liliana. She can be a problem for this deck since it likes to hold cards. Yeah, maybe maindecking Needle is something to consider. What do you think?

[beez]

it's cat o'clock.

bwahahahaaa!!

[jarvisyu]

bwahahahaaa!!

that is me losing to ajani's ult in that respective limited format. I figured it was apropos to this thread.

[Slag]

Really like your list a lot

I do see your guys point. And perhaps I am indeed being too greedy and it is worth it to save myself some early beats from Delver and Goyf, Bob, merfolk lords etc until I stabalize and control the creature board. So far I have just endured a couple of wastelands each game as I can get more posts than they have wastelands, but since more than 50% of Legacy decks run Wasteland perhaps I should just maindeck the Pithing Needles and name Wasteland right off the bat. Particularly since I dont like Wasteland in my own deck cause it is yet more colorless mana when I actually do need some white, it messes with my curve and I dont particularly care what lands the other player has, and I am certainly not running tempo. With any extra Needles I could name Jace or whatever I see they are pkaying. Or Liliana. She can be a problem for this deck since it likes to hold cards. Yeah, maybe maindecking Needle is something to consider. What do you think?

If you move your enlightened tutors to the maindeck, you can run one needle, along with some useful targets (crucible, porphery nodes?), and maybe one over-costed artifact. That way, you'll get access to needles along with added utility.

[beez]

Also an idea worth considering. I could maybe still keep one Scourglass or one Cessation (you guys still don't understand just how dirty Cessation is in conjunction with a bunch of wrath effects). The question is always what to leave in and what to take out. It does make it more open to being hurt by Chalice @1 though. I will think on it though.
How about Humilty on the side, though it does make Cats and Angels smaller.

[beez]

Can we run a singleton Ajani, Caller of the Pride? Can we Ma? At worse he pumps a soldier a bit each turn. At best he just ends the game. Remember, there is a bit of lifegain with the Glimmerposts too.

[Slag]

Can we run a singleton Ajani, Caller of the Pride? Can we Ma? At worse he pumps a soldier a bit each turn. At best he just ends the game. Remember, there is a bit of lifegain with the Glimmerposts too.

Hell, run two. You brought home enough smiley faces on your report card that you've earned it, champ.

[beez]

Unfortunately Ajani seems like win more in this deck. After some testing and considering comments, I like this list at the moment:

CatPost

3x White Sun Zenith
4x Martial Coup
4x Decree of Justice

1x Cessation
2x Wrath of God
2x Day of Judgment
4x Swords to Plowshares
3x Oblivion Ring
4x Enlightened Tutor
4x Expedition Map
4x Gilded Lotus
2x Pithing Needle

4x Cloudpost
4x Glimmerpost
4x Vesuva
1x Karakas
1x Boseiju
10x Plains

Side
1x Cessation
2x Pithing Needle
1x Oblivion Ring
1x Austere Command
2x Ratchet Bomb
3x Rest in Peace
1x Thorn of Amethyst
1x Chalice of the Void
1x Wrath of God
1x Day of Judgment
1x Humility


The suggestion of maindecking Enlightened Tutor to fetch the Pithing Needle against Wasteland among other things was a good one. It even opens up lines of play in fetching Expedition Map if you need a Post, or a Cessation if you need to drop it on a goyf or delver, or an Oblivion ring against a non creature threat. And all that is without even sideboarding yet.