The bottom line with Looting is that it is card disadvantage unless you support it with active Welders or Squee or something. I think you want 2 or more Welders before considering Looting.
@phoenix4 - Yep, Metamorph is definitely reactive although this deck does give him a great homemade target in Recruiter.
I am cutting him for now though since he's going to be a bit weaker, and Ish is right about Omnitell representing a larger portion of the Show and Tell decks.
It's pretty much just a choice between a 3rd Revoker or 6th MD Blast for me. Kap'n, I definitely see your point about just getting more counters and instant-speed vindicates and the emergence of Omnitell makes Blasts even better. But Revoker is less conditional, which I like in the MD. I played against Omnitell this weekend too, and Revoker's clock was very useful even though he didn't disrupt anything.
At the moment I'm just having problems putting together a sideboard that I can really look at and say "Yeah, that'll do". I keep changing it over and over again.
Main
1x Goblin Welder
4x Imperial Recruiter
1x Jaya Ballard, Task Mage
1x Magus of the Moon
4x Painter's Servant
2x Phyrexian Revoker
4x Simian Spirit Guide
1x Spellskite
3x Enlightened Tutor
4x Pyroblast
3x Red Elemental Blast
4x Grindstone
1x Lotus Petal
1x Peacekeeper
2x Sensei's Divining Top
4x Blood Moon
4x Ancient Tomb
4x Arid Mesa
4x City of Traitors
6x Mountain
1x Plains
1x Plateau
Sideboard
3x Ensnaring Bridge
1x Ethersworn Canonist
1x Faerie Macabre
1x Manic Vandal
1x Koth of the Hammer
2x Ratchet Bomb
1x Red Elemental Blast
1x Stingscourger
3x Thorn of Amethyst
1x Tormod's Crypt
Decided to try the white splash for the enlightened tutor and I'm really liking it, and opens up Peacekeeper and Canonist. Still trying to decide if I want some burn in the sb, or just turn it into a more recruiter package than it already is.
I would suggest Rest in Peace in the board as a four of along with a singleton Helm of Obediance. Rest in peace is still really strong and it adds more combo pieces and answers to a bunch of problems.
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Yeah, as you can tell, my list is closest to yours. Was thinking about that sideboard idea, will try it out.Originally Posted by sroncor1
3x Ensnaring Bridge
1x Ethersworn Canonist
1x Helm of Obedience
2x Ratchet Bomb
4x Rest in Peace
4x Thorn of Amethyst
Something more like that?
My friend has a desire to build this deck, but doesn't have the cash to drop on imperial recruiters. His budget is about 400 can someone give a recruiter less deck list? Or is even worth his time to build without recruiters
He can probably get a set of DCI recruiters for 400. Next to that, City or Traitor and Ancient tombs will be another bill or two, from there the another couple bills to fill out the rest of the 75. I'd say that your friend needs to save up more. Nowadays it takes a while to track down recruiters or get the money ready for the transaction. Some people got theirs way back in the day and it wasn't so painful. It took me almost two years to piece the deck together, one weekend at a Legacy GP and I had the deck sans Recruiters. Those took a bit longer to find for a decent price. It's a fun project and rewarding when you finally sleeve up that last Recruiter.
A while back I priced out the deck because I was bored at work and you could buy mono-red for around 800 I believe (more or less depending on how much time you want to spend on ebay), which actually makes it one of the more budget friendly decks. Kinda weird since it used to be the exact opposite. If I remember, that includes a few fetches and the sideboard as well.
It's not really worth putting together a recruiter-less build unless he actually plans to follow through on getting them. You can try, but then it becomes a weird variation on welder-mud with a million gambles/enlightened tutors and faithless lootings ruining your day since you can't recruit your singleton creatures like jaya.
Yeah, the judge promo Imperial Recruiters are surprisingly affordable right now. Considering picking some up myself.
Thanks everybody
He intendes to finish the deck but wanted to know if they're was a middle ground in which the deck was viable for play
Also I didn't know the judge foil was as cheap as it was thanks guys
You can also find Japanese Portal Imperial Recruiters around for a much more reasonable price than English ones if you hate playing with foils (like me).
I picked up one for $125 at GP KC and just won another on ebay last night for $104. Should be able un-proxy the rest of this soon to start jamming at LGS. Looking forward to it as it seems like this deck has all the right tools to attack the current meta.
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Do it Esper! Mirror match action.Yeah, the judge promo Imperial Recruiters are surprisingly affordable right now. Considering picking some up myself.
It is crazy though how the combination of promo Recruiters and other cards' constantly rising prices have made iPainter "affordable".
Heh they're just affordable relative to the price of the P3k ones. We're still talking dual land prices here :)
Yesterday I was thinking about replacements for metamorph (I may still keep it I'm not really sure at all) and wondered if anyone has used Siege Gang? I haven't tested him at all so don't judge too hard, but he could be a good sideboard card for grindy creature mirrors or as a huge clock against slower decks or even help kill under a bridge basically as a supplemental card to Koth that can be tutored.
I am going to try out a wide variety of different creatures, many of which I have used in the past but since dropped. Contenders include 2nd Jaya, another Magus, Siege Gang, Spellskite, V. Heretic (mainly Jitte at this point), 4th ensnaring bridge, and try out the LD Avalanche riders/goblin settler. Anyone else have any other creatures to suggest?
Also, for anyone who still wants burn, Parch might work well
Why don't you play four Bridges?
I know it's a cute card, but I always wanted to make Sirocco work in the deck :D
Is there an Errata on that?
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Ca...tiverseid=3463
THought so. I could see this being a house with the Spiral Tide matchup. Otherwise, I think I'd rather have some Blasts?
Would be worth it just to run the card at a local and slam it for reaction
I probably should but it has always come down to board space. Finding a bridge through looting and grindstoning myself with 3 welders hasn't really been an issue either.
Oh yeah, forgot your build was Welder friendly. Makes sense
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