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people apparently ship all kinds of trash for grading.
What are the things to look for with A vs. B?Originally Posted by aahz
Alpha cards make me
Here's an actual Alpha Trop to compare them to:
Check the artist line :)
my A/B tropis
I'm a sucker
Little lost here but what is up with the different artists for the Tropical Islands?
Alpha Tropical was misprinted with the artist credit being to Mark Poole. This was corrected in Beta.
"The Ancients teach us that if we can but last, we shall prevail."
—Kaysa, Elder Druid of the Juniper Order
Cool, thank you I never knew that.
Also, there is no Alpha Volcanic Island. There were numerous mistakes made in Alpha, most were corrected in Beta, although some were not. See here for some more interesting information about it.
"The Ancients teach us that if we can but last, we shall prevail."
—Kaysa, Elder Druid of the Juniper Order
I knew about the volcanic. Especially when someone tried to sell me one and I decided to mess with him lol. He said it is a mint Alpha Volcanic , showed me and yep it was nice condition . He told me he wanted $600 and I told him I feel like I am ripping him off at that price so I told him I would pay $1000. He was like ok deal and then I said you didnt let me finish. "I would pay you $1000 if this was real and was not a Beta with cut corners".
He stormed off mad he got caught.
regardless i think 600 is a pretty decent deal there.
There were some Beta sheets cut with the Alpha dies, as there was with some 4th Edition, if my memory serves me correctly. The "Alpha" Volcanic was posted on the Rarities forum a few years ago, and may have also been posted on here.
http://www.magiclibrarities.net/foru...pic.php?t=5557
-Matt
Not trying to argue, but that would make it Beta, with Alpha corners, though.
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"The Ancients teach us that if we can but last, we shall prevail."
—Kaysa, Elder Druid of the Juniper Order
Fine, "Alpha" Volcanic Island or Alpha-Cut Beta Volcanic Island. I'm sorry I didn't use quotes, since in speech, I'd be air quoting.
-Matt
I got you bro:Fine, "Alpha" Volcanic Island or Alpha-Cut Beta Volcanic Island. I'm sorry I didn't use quotes, since in speech, I'd be air quoting.
-Matt
Oh snap. I was beaten to posting that. No point in being right unless you are also technically correct. Matt can atone for his missing quotes by posting up some pictures of Alpha duals (rather than that "Alpha" one).
The more you know... Thanks for the info. I was somehow unaware of this fact despite my love for all things Alpha. I guess pimpin' properly does require academic rigor. I should poke around on Librarities more. I'd love to see more examples of "Alpha" Betas (and also "Alpha" 4th edition cards, if Matt's memory does indeed serve correctly). Wouldn't some Betas cut with rounded corners be essentially indistinguishable from real Alphas?
In other news, I've got a seriously sexy deck begging to be posted, but I'm waiting until after the event it was built for before posting (paranoia, paranoia, la de da da da...). Foil lovers won't be impressed, but that's their problem. I'm smitten with this deck, which is all that really matters anyway.
It's coming! (but without the hot chocolate, marshmallows, and cuteness; no word yet on the scarf)
I have an anti pimp loam deck. (FTV Groves and Dryad Arbor) REV Duals, MM Loams and Countryside Crushers. It would make everyone cry. All I need is an 8th edition basic forest. Oh and I guess now FTV Green Suns
You have GOT to post it on this thread sometime soon.
I agree breaking these open wears on the nerves. This was my final piece and it's the only case I've opened. Needless to say, I didn't want to end up with an unplayable damaged card. The good thing was I was able to get this for the same price as beat up lotus. I think people looking at graded pieces laugh at the 6.5 and people looking for playable pieces are scared off by the case.I cracked this pearl and it was the scariest thing I've ever done! Didn't want to flush $400 down the drain.
I've been terrified of cracking cases ever since I saw a ripped Alpha Demonic Tutor up on eBay (former 9.5 iirc)
There were some Beta sheets cut with the Alpha dies, as there was with some 4th Edition, if my memory serves me correctly. The "Alpha" Volcanic was posted on the Rarities forum a few years ago, and may have also been posted on here.
http://www.magiclibrarities.net/foru...pic.php?t=5557
-Matt
Actually, this is not an "Alpha cut Beta" Volcanic at all. If you look at the picture, the card actually has the white dots at the corners, whereas Beta Volcanics do not have the white dots at the corners - just like the other cards that were missing from Alpha. I think the general consensus amongst high end collectors is that this volcanic is either fake or some type of alpha testprint/Edgar recalled type of card. You can draw your own conclusions, but it's certainly not cut from a beta sheet.
The claim that maybe one beta sheet was printed with alpha style borders and cut like alpha cards seems purely fictional at best.
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