CE.Originally Posted by r3dd09
I've never had an SCG or GP Judge check my Beta duals to see if they were CE, though. Hm...
-Matt
have you ever used CE instead of betas? ...would it be so bad if CE / IE were allowed in tournaments considering there isnt really any difference in an opaque sleeve. This might help break the cost barrier into vintage/legacy
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The issue is whether or not judges check. I had the judges sleeve my deck before going into the Top 8 at SCG, but they told me to sleeve the duals myself since they didn't want to damage them and have me give them a brain hemorrhage.have you ever used CE instead of betas?
Also, me admitting to this would be admitting to cheating in sanctioned Magic, so no, no I have not done this.
-Matt
I'm not a huge fan of foreign cards but sometimes you have to make exceptions. I allready miss my english ones...
It's about 10 betas now and another 35 ish FBBs. Then about 20 assorted CEs.
I think it would have a bigger impact in Vintage as the % of vintage playables in the CE/IE sets is way higher. I also think it would save them from eventual destruction, since inevitably they'll all end up in Italy, get rebacked and end up on eBay.
IE/CE power might end up being worth more than unlimited power actually if it were legal. IE/CE duals would almost certainly be worth more than revised/ul duals (I think there are less). With double face cards there really isn't a compelling real reason to not make them legal. The corner thing is the same as any other marked sleeve issue - you can't tell unless you are cheating which you can already do with alpha.
I would love to see them legal and I own beta / alpha power ... it would mean a surge in sanctioned vintage which is good for Magic.
Do you have any past experience with that or is it just you talking out of your ass? Because I'm pretty active in the italian Mtg community and I didn't hear anything about fakes/rebacks in years. if something big happened (like a stash of rebacked crap ends up on ebay) I would have been aware of it.
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This was more of a thing in the mid to late 1990's and early 2000's.
-Matt
Half ass, half memory. In the early 2000's (2002) there was quite a bit of bad auction rebacking from Italy. Like 3-4 a month, on eBay. All my CE stuff (2 complete, 1 incomplete signed) with the exception of a very few things all went to Italy when I sold it on eBay. I even saw a signed Tundra (CE) come back a month later on eBay as a beta. It had the same silver ink blot.
Not to say there aren't complete fucking crooks in all nations. Now I think we'll slowly see less destroying of these cards
a) CE's are actually worth something so mutilating them is less attractive
b) eBay is just always going to side with the buyer
c) People understand fakes better
but I suppose this is all bumped up against the insane price of actual beta duals so maybe it'll even out. I just wish WotC would legalize them, I thought for sure flip cards were the vehicle they'd use to do this since it's just as easy to cheat with those.
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They're nice and opaque sleeves exist...
That dog hair was on printing plate or on scanner?
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The hair somehow got on the card when I took the picture. It's like nothing I ever do in my house can get rid of the dog hair that seems to fly around my house and land in places I don't want itThey're nice and opaque sleeves exist...
That dog hair was on printing plate or on scanner?.
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Not a scanner, it's a picture as you can see a pair of legs ;)They're nice and opaque sleeves exist...
That dog hair was on printing plate or on scanner?
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