It's legal.Originally Posted by jandax
Ashen Rider is legal, too.
From Wizards.com:
Cards from expansions and special sets (like From the Vault, Magic: The Gathering - Commander, Duel Decks, etc) are legal in the Legacy format on the date of release of the expansion or special set.
From Wiki.mtgsalvation.com:
Theros is the first set in the Theros block. It is the 62nd Magic expansion and will be released on September 27, 2013.
It is legal since it is not on the list: https://www.wizards.com/Magic/TCG/Re...rces/sfrlegacy
Ashen rider is way better than angel of despair... it doesn't kill, it exiles, so it can take enrakull and not shuffle the opponents library in the process, and it can do it twice should you sac him to a therapy or DR!
I cannot see the point that angel is better.
I'll quote me here.
If we compare
Angel of Despair with Ashen Rider
it is obvious that Rider is an direct upgrade since it
a) Exiles
b) Two
c) Permanents (also Lands)
(as long it is legal;). And we do not questions that, do we?
We totally agree here. You forgot to mention that Ashen Rider stays a 5/5 even if our opponent played an Engineered Plague on Angels to weaken the Dread Returned Chancellor of the Annex :P
Ashen Rider is okay.
I assume you're being sarcastic.
I asked about the Omnitell matchup specifically, as I've come up against it a fair bit lately, and because it's fairly slow for a combo deck, so we have time to compete.
They seem to go off on around T3 to 4.
I've never been a big fan of Unmask, as it's only really useful against the slower decks. Against really fast decks like Storm, you have to sacrifice speed to do something that mightn't even stop them....
Unmask is good, but I never got to use it right... It's good against fast decks, but it slow us down too, and against slower decks it will not make any more diference than say, a chancellor of the annex, It's a good card, but I won't see the point of putting them in the SB
Nvm, found what I was looking for. :P
Last edited by TableTopMagic; 10-09-2013 at 12:33 PM.
Ah I forgot they changed that, my bad.
Absolutely huge tournament this Saturday at Jupiter Games for an Invitational Qualifier.
I'll be riding classic Manaless all the way.
Didn't you play a big event last weekend or the weekend before with your "New Hotness" build? The one with Riftstone Portals? How did that turn out?
Hang on a mo'.
Were you using a couple Dakmor Salvage with some Riftstone Portal?
Might be a nice way to cast green stuff without needing it in your hand.
That was a local event where I wanted to try out a different prototype. It wasn't necessarily new "hotness," it was just an attempt to try something different. I was unable to attend that event - becoming a new dad has been very difficult to play as often as I used to.
That being said, I am not playing that version with Portals this weekend.
It possibly fits more in the other Dredge thread but whats about your new Dredge brew with Tortured Existence?
"I came into this world covered in someone else's blood and screaming, I'd like to leave it the same way."
You have my attention.
Well Hollywood posted something about it. He described it as a hybrid between Mana- and Manaless Dredge and one of the most grindiest lists he ever played. Beeing a lazy person I have not put much thought in it, but I guess it uses at least the interaction of Street Wraith and Tortured Existence. I am interested how it worked out and what it may look like :)
"I came into this world covered in someone else's blood and screaming, I'd like to leave it the same way."
Tortured existence?
One of my fave cards for MP kitchen table games. I've seen it in NicFit and the like, but not in dredge before.
Interesting.....
Wouldn't it only be useful to grab a Dryad Arbor, or in protecting from Surgical Extraction/graveyard popping, and the like?
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Lately I've been testing out just a couple Ancient Grudge in the side (and it's cousin, Ray of Revelation, on and off)
I've been coming up against Burn (Ensnaring Bridge) , Affinity (plating) & Blade-decks (jitte, batterskull etc.) a but more often, & I'm finding the 4 Claims just aren't cutting it.
Now I know a *hard* hate card like Wheel of S&M, RiP, Grafdigger's etc. are gonna be hard to play around and most likely stall us long enough for them to win, but so far I've found it encouraging.
Reason being, I've been finding the variety of hate seems pretty diverse, and that it's been a way to force the *pop* from Relic of Progenitus etc. earlier rather than later, once it hits the yard.
Anyone else run this bit of tech?
@ Tortured Existence:Tortured existence?
One of my fave cards for MP kitchen table games. I've seen it in NicFit and the like, but not in dredge before.
Interesting.....
Wouldn't it only be useful to grab a Dryad Arbor, or in protecting from Surgical Extraction/graveyard popping, and the like?
-----------------------------
Lately I've been testing out just a couple Ancient Grudge in the side (and it's cousin, Ray of Revelation, on and off)
I've been coming up against Burn (Ensnaring Bridge) , Affinity (plating) & Blade-decks (jitte, batterskull etc.) a but more often, & I'm finding the 4 Claims just aren't cutting it.
Now I know a *hard* hate card like Wheel of S&M, RiP, Grafdigger's etc. are gonna be hard to play around and most likely stall us long enough for them to win, but so far I've found it encouraging.
Reason being, I've been finding the variety of hate seems pretty diverse, and that it's been a way to force the *pop* from Relic of Progenitus etc. earlier rather than later, once it hits the yard.
Anyone else run this bit of tech?
I guess its more of its own variation of Dredge. Neither Manaless nor LED Dredge. Well hopefully Hollywood can tell us something about the Deck and how well it worked. I like the card for style and it would be nice to build a Dredge Deck around it :)
As for Grudge and Ray...I played them in Quadlaser Dredge. While Ray of Revelation was pretty lackluster, because its Flashback does nothing against Leyline of the Void, Rest in Peace and Wheel of Sun and Moon its cousin actually is still in my Sideboard for cards like Batterskull and Ensnaring Bridge like you mentioned. Triggering earlier Crypts and Relics might work as well, but lately I just slowrolled them, which even works better with Manaless Dredge due to the higher threat density.
"I came into this world covered in someone else's blood and screaming, I'd like to leave it the same way."
IDK, I tought you could flashback ray of revelation against Rest in peace ETB trigger '-' your grave would still be nuked, but at least you can restart your engine with Pimp or regular discard outlets.
Is this a legal play?
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