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    Re: [Deck] T.E.S. - The EPIC Storm

    Quote Originally Posted by Lemnear View Post
    The more interresting question would have been: how many games did you draw a Mox and wished it was a land?
    I haven't thought on that. Recalling from my memory, if I'm not mistaken, only once. It was in game two (with SB) vs. URW.
    I recall, I drew a Mox before he stifled my upside down wish turn later.

    Anyway, it's going to be my next agenda. Maybe tonight or tomorrow.
    cutting a Chrome Mox for a fetch.

    I'll let you know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paeng4983 View Post
    I haven't thought on that. Recalling from my memory, if I'm not mistaken, only once. It was in game two (with SB) vs. URW.
    I recall, I drew a Mox before he stifled my upside down wish turn later.

    Anyway, it's going to be my next agenda. Maybe tonight or tomorrow.
    cutting a Chrome Mox for a fetch.

    I'll let you know.
    My mate and me tested this already successfully. It may requires a bit more oversight about already burned IMS' for T1/2 Ad Nauseams. This change is primary for metas with a lot of mana denial and taxing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemnear View Post
    My mate and me tested this already successfully. It may requires a bit more oversight about already burned IMS' for T1/2 Ad Nauseams. This change is primary for metas with a lot of mana denial and taxing
    Maybe it was my bad luck, but when I tested the switch (-1 Chrome Mox, +1 Fetch) my Ad Nauseams were way more risky. Ad Nauseam @ <14 killed me far more often than the opponent.

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    Took 2nd place today ... Lost with a lethal Army of goblins to a topdecked Lightning Bolt flipping a Delver with me at 5 life x(
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    Took 2nd place today ... Lost with a lethal Army of goblins to a topdecked Lightning Bolt flipping a Delver with me at 5 life x(
    Cool, tourney report coming? Test any changes esp to the maindeck?

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    Ok guys, confession time: I've never been to a legacy event.

    There, i said it. Im taking TES (Played many many games with it for many months now) to a GPT this weekend and wondered if there were any general tips to give for either piloting this deck or things to watch for in a tournament setting?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JPoJohnson View Post
    Ok guys, confession time: I've never been to a legacy event.

    There, i said it. Im taking TES (Played many many games with it for many months now) to a GPT this weekend and wondered if there were any general tips to give for either piloting this deck or things to watch for in a tournament setting?
    Make sure to document well both players' life totals and all of your mana.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Star|Scream View Post
    Make sure to document well both players' life totals and all of your mana.
    Write down the whole spells' chain, it's far more easy to recover game state than just from the storm commas. Also, you may analyze your play later, and I have an impresion that my opponents were impressed that contrary to the dudes who just count the spells, I'm pretty good with Storm, because I write down the whole spells' chain so that I may analyze my play later.

    It also looks pretty funny.
    "RoF (Daze! - DRit!), Mox (BS), Ponder, DRit, LED, AdN (LED: BBB)..."
    You know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPoJohnson View Post
    Ok guys, confession time: I've never been to a legacy event.

    There, i said it. Im taking TES (Played many many games with it for many months now) to a GPT this weekend and wondered if there were any general tips to give for either piloting this deck or things to watch for in a tournament setting?
    As others have said, be sure to be thorough with counting storm and mana. I recommend dice, even different colored ones for your type of mana floating (black, red, etc)!

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    Quote Originally Posted by davelin View Post
    As others have said, be sure to be thorough with counting storm and mana. I recommend dice, even different colored ones for your type of mana floating (black, red, etc)!
    Ugh, dice are awkward as hell, especially if you start playing with them. Writing everything down and the spells cast ensures 0 confusion and you can always run back through the chain should there be a discrepancy and a judge gets called.
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    If you ever want to be good in anything at life, you have to be healthy. Your mind and body should both be in good shape, remember to sleep, relax, don't stress too much, eat and so on. I can promise you, the worst time you'll ever have playing Magic the Gathering is when you're mind, body or both are sick. I've tried playing while having only two hours of sleep before a tournament (0-5, perfect record!) or stressing about your life in general. Remember to eat and especially drink, or you'll find yourself way too exhausted at some point to make good decisions when you have to make one.

    Other than that, don't be afraid to fail or lose. Sometimes you just have to lose your head and go for their throat if you believe they don't have it.

    I had my birthday two days ago and wanted to make a small project. Last year I signed up to the secret santa thingy and got one lotus petal and _opened_ innistrad booster with a shitty rare. This time I wanted to make something a little bit more special for Christmas. If you want to, send me your post address and I'll send you a card for TES as a birthday/christmas present, with a poor alteration by me. (Notice, the cards will be cheap as dirt shit - goblin tokens and maybe duresses.) I'm poor so I have to roll by sending cheap shit. Hit me up if you're interested in bad cards altered very badly as a present.

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    Re: [Deck] T.E.S. - The EPIC Storm

    Quote Originally Posted by davelin View Post
    As others have said, be sure to be thorough with counting storm and mana. I recommend dice, even different colored ones for your type of mana floating (black, red, etc)!
    I used the dice and was very unsatisfied with them. It takes too much time to find the correct number, you must switch pen and dice, etc.
    Also, don't use the papers with too many print on them, like 95 % of what you'll get in a usual lgs. You don't need their logo, all the nonsense like "opponents name" and vertical lines, etc. It will distract you and you'll have not enough space for really important notes like cards seen in Duress, etc. Take enough A5 papers and use one paper per game no matter what. It's better to waste a nigh clean paper then to miscount storm or misread a Therapy note.

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    I have twenty sided dice as well as 10 sided dice of each mana color. I know TES fairly well, just not in a tournament setting. I've played against many other decks of the format (UW Deathblade, Merfolk, Belcher, Mirror, Goblins, UW Miracles, Dredge) so i know how to play the format. The other suggestions though are exactly the type im looking for. Thanks (:

    Edit: I've liked the dice for mana, disliked the dice for storm count. Ill just keep track of it by writing down.


    Another question: I read in a tournament report that opponents are allowed to ask to look at your notes? (A judge at the SCG tournament made him show his opponent). I guess I'll write down in a way i understand and they don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JPoJohnson View Post
    I have twenty sided dice as well as 10 sided dice of each mana color. I know TES fairly well, just not in a tournament setting. I've played against many other decks of the format (UW Deathblade, Merfolk, Belcher, Mirror, Goblins, UW Miracles, Dredge) so i know how to play the format. The other suggestions though are exactly the type im looking for. Thanks (:

    Edit: I've liked the dice for mana, disliked the dice for storm count. Ill just keep track of it by writing down.


    Another question: I read in a tournament report that opponents are allowed to ask to look at your notes? (A judge at the SCG tournament made him show his opponent). I guess I'll write down in a way i understand and they don't.
    Yes I believe life totals and notes written down can be viewed so don't write down your opening hands at least not without coding it! I also haven't played competitively in awhile, I assume you can look at your sideboard anytime during the match, not just when you are casting a Wish spell?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bed Decks Palyer View Post
    Write down the whole spells' chain, it's far more easy to recover game state than just from the storm commas. Also, you may analyze your play later, and I have an impresion that my opponents were impressed that contrary to the dudes who just count the spells, I'm pretty good with Storm, because I write down the whole spells' chain so that I may analyze my play later.

    It also looks pretty funny.
    "RoF (Daze! - DRit!), Mox (BS), Ponder, DRit, LED, AdN (LED: BBB)..."
    You know.
    Making excessive notes is time consuming in your turn. The mana-colored-dice-System I presented a few pages back works wonders. Without trying to be a douche, but didn't you announce to sell your ANT/TNT after going 0-X in 2 tournaments in a row with storm? I would have loved to see those excessive notes to analyze what wet wrong...

    Quote Originally Posted by davelin View Post
    Cool, tourney report coming? Test any changes esp to the maindeck?
    Let's say there were 3 hilarious games:

    1) against UWR Delver I managed to resolve 18 Goblins through Wasteland, double Daze, double Pierce, FoW and Stifle (not all in a single turn, obviously)

    2) opend on the draw with 2 LED, 3 Petal, Gemstone, EtW. Draw mox, play out the hand right into Flusterstorm while he's laughing. I just remind him about the LED's, break both and pay for an Army which kills him in 2 swings XD

    3) against a friend playing OmniTell, I was able to Therapy 3 Omniscience in game 2 and in game 3 he kept 3(!!) FoW in Order to prevent 2 Wishes (I played to bait counters) and my actual combo move x(. We are both in topdeck mode then and he S&T's Omniscience into play, but doesn't find a way to kill me after blowing Release the Ants against a Xantid. I resolve a second Bug and win with Ad Nauseam into PIF with him having 3 counterspells in hand, disabled by Xantid



    There's no full report coming because I was late and had to finish my R1 opponent (Meerfolk) therefore in a rush. I made one of 2 critical mistakes that day in game 2 because of the time pressure ... still got my 2-0. The other misplay, I was able to negate with Jedi mind tricks.

    It was the -1 Mox, +1 Fetch list with Pyroclasm in the SB, which saved my ass against Dark Maverick. The Land was crucial to battle the Delvers flurry of manadenial and did not hurt the 2 Ad Nauseam cast that day. EtW was MVP as usual

    Quote Originally Posted by JPoJohnson View Post
    Ok guys, confession time: I've never been to a legacy event.

    There, i said it. Im taking TES (Played many many games with it for many months now) to a GPT this weekend and wondered if there were any general tips to give for either piloting this deck or things to watch for in a tournament setting?
    Use 8 dices: 4 D20 for life, Token, Gemstone counters, etc. 1 Crazy colored D10 for storm, and one D10 each in the colors red, blue and black (for flooded mana). I posted a picture of those a few pages back.

    Sadly, it's a cruel fact that you need to learn this deck under tournament conditions to control your body Language and facial expression in Order to Jedi mind trick your opponents with certain gestures (laying your hand facedown on the table and pompously pick them up 1-2 turns later, rearrange your spells and lands to play out counter-baits to make that crap look important, etc.).

    This is a Poker players deck. There's no success if your opponent can read you or if you are shaking nervous and make hasty, bad plays and miscount all day.

    My personal advice: don't mull too much. Greedy mulligans because the hand is a bit slow or sketchy result in the most losses, you'll have with the deck. A good mulligan rate is anything below 20% of your hands. If your number Tops those 20% by far, reevaluate your mulligans and/or practice shuffling ;)
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    I have tried dice but find it difficult to manage when multiple values change at once.

    I now write down notes using a simple scheme. An example from my last storm match looks like this.

    S 1 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11
    B 3 2 5 3
    U 1 0
    R 2 3

    Write down the latest values as they change. Don't cross out or erase them. Sometimes, like casting a couple petals when the coast is clear, I will skip over intermediate results. Storm could jump from 3 to 5, say.

    I like this much better than fumbling with dice. Changing over smoothed out my mechanical game while playing.
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    Posting in support of using multiple dice to count storm and mana. There's enough spindowns around nowadays that it's easy to trade people to get one for each color (or just spend .50), and it makes things pretty easy for both you and your opponent.

    That being said, your mileage may vary, and some people prefer to write things down, and there's nothing wrong with that.
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    Re: [Deck] T.E.S. - The EPIC Storm

    Adjusting dices is Yoga. It calms you down and is a visual help ... you'll make less mistakes than using pen&paper. Disadvantage of switching between P&P and dices during a match for notes (Probe, Discard, starting hands).

    Edit: all those talk about keeping track of mana/life/storm isn't really helpful if you never played with this deck in a real tournament Environment and make mistakes being nervous and such
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemnear View Post
    3) against a friend playing OmniTell, I was able to Therapy 3 Omniscience in game 2 and in game 3 he kept 3(!!) FoW in Order to prevent 2 Wishes (I played to bait counters) and my actual combo move x(. We are both in topdeck mode then and he S&T's Omniscience into play, but doesn't find a way to kill me after blowing Release the Ants against a Xantid. I resolve a second Bug and win with Ad Nauseam into PIF with him having 3 counterspells in hand, disabled by Xantid
    Hi what was your side in in side out game 2 ?

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