[Deck] T.E.S. - The EPIC Storm

[paeng4983]

RE: - 1 Chrome mox for + 1 City of Brass
For the 1st night –1 Chrome Mox for +1 City of Brass (upside down) with Trop’s slot being pyroclasm for 6 games against Maverick and Reanimator.
For the 2nd night, -1 Chrome Mox for +1 Fetchand with Cook’s SB list for 6 games too with the same decks.
And here’s the stuffs relating to the topic:

1st night:
vs. Mavs
G1: I did manage to draw the upside down brass, but it was irrelevant for I had enough mana to go off with ETW for 8 storm finishing the game in two turns. Well if it was a Chrome Mox, it will just increase the number of my goblin warriors by two. But it really didn’t matter for my opponent doesn’t have any answer for my 16 little green men. (1-0)

G2: We did use SB cards for this game. There was a point where he had a Thalia on the table and the upside down brass was forutnately in my hand. It effectively increased my mana against his taxing power for two turns before bouncing his Thalia then went off unmolested in my turn using tutor for ROF wish into PiF into X goblin tokens. (2-0)

G3: He was able to set up his defense with Teeg, Thalia and Canonist. Pyroclasm was very helpful here but another Thalia came down to his aid and it was an uphill for I failed to draw for an answer. I lose to Thalia and ooze who was busy eating up my GY. (2-1)

*deck with these kind of hate (Thalia, Teeg, Canonist, Aven Mindcensor, Mother of Runes, Mirran), Pyroclasm really shines the best. Pyroclasm also is at best vs. goblins, elves and other small aggro archetype.

vs. Reanimator
G1: My opening seven was: LED ROF ROF silence petal, brass (upside down) and wish. Good thing it was a brass it this situation. I went for it via Silence protected Diminishing Return but was not so lucky in the new set of seven. I lose to Iona naming Black minutes later. (2-2)

G2: No SB used yet for this game. The upside down brass was not a factor here. Eventually I won via tendrils off an Ad naus. (3-2). There was a point where I was looking for a mana source in the form of petal or chrome. Maybe if the revealed upside down brass was a chrome, i didn't need to dig deeper because digging deeper increases your chances of getting hit my a singleton ETW or your 2cc tutors or wishes which can caused you the game.

G3: wih SB. My opening hand was: xantid, ponder, tarn, mox, silence, LED and tutor. The upside down brass was one of the cards that I saw off the ponder. A turn a later, I dropped it cast the bug and it did not get countered. Bug attacks a turn after to protect my combo during my second phase. (4-2)

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2nd night
vs. reanimator
G1: We started our playtest with SB. The upside down brass (in this case it’s an additional fetch) didn’t showed here. I managed to win this game thanks to his exhume, allowing me to revive the countered bug of my own. I swang it, got blocked his grisel. He gained 7 life but unable to interact with my chain of spell ending with a lethal TOA. (5-2)

G2: Still with SB. I had a first turn ad naus, I greedily went for the kill but met his Force of Will. He won the game shoft after retrieving his demon named Griselbrand. (5-3)

G3: Still with SB. Eventhough the upside down brass (fetch in this case) showed up, it did not played any significant role because I was lacking protection. I tried to go off after turns of not drawing any protection but only to be halted by his counterspells. I lose eventually to Iona (on black) and grisel. (5-4)

vs. Maverick
G1: No SB. Wasteland plus Thalia imprisoned me here. The upside down brass (fetch) was no where to be found. I lost eventually to his mob of green and white creatures. (5-5)

G2: with SB. The upside down brass (fetch) did not showed as well in this game. Plus I didn’t get my hands on a vapor or a decay. A second turn Stoneforge into battleskull and other GW guys gave him the victory. (5-6)

G3: with SB. At one point, he had: Teeg and Thalia. And my hand then was: ponder, vapor, ROF and braistorm. I need another vapor or an abrupt here. Ponder allowed me to see a wish. Unfortunately, have no pyrosclasm in the SB. I waited still for a few more turns praying for a vapor or a decay. I did not draw any of it despite my cantripping. (5-7)

[Final Fortune]

You can't time walk with autumns veil.

Obviously, but considering we have a Tropical Island in the SB it seems like Autumn's Veil should have an appication some where.

[Lemnear]

@paeng

Your current verdict after those limited testing?

[davelin]

Played about 7-8 games yesterday against RUG with the -1 Mox +1 Fetch change in the MB. Results were as expected, most of the time the card didn't come up to be a factor, one game where I was glad it was a land and not a Mox and once resolving Ad Naus I wished it was a Mox and not a land so I didn't have to dig as deep. I will probably go with the change this weekend just to help with what has been for me, a difficult matchup overall.

[Pelikanudo]

Related to:

vs. Reanimator
G1: My opening seven was: LED ROF ROF silence petal, brass (upside down) and wish. Good thing it was a brass it this situation. I went for it via Silence protected Diminishing Return but was not so lucky in the new set of seven. I lose to Iona naming Black minutes later. (2-2)


In this situation Bribery in side was the way to go.

[Lemnear]

Related to:

vs. Reanimator
G1: My opening seven was: LED ROF ROF silence petal, brass (upside down) and wish. Good thing it was a brass it this situation. I went for it via Silence protected Diminishing Return but was not so lucky in the new set of seven. I lose to Iona naming Black minutes later. (2-2)


In this situation Bribery in side was the way to go.

Bribery only shines against SneakShow, 12-Post and Reanimator ... and only for Game 1. Shares the Problem of IGG

[Final Fortune]

Bribery only shines against SneakShow, 12-Post and Reanimator ... and only for Game 1. Shares the Problem of IGG

It's good thru' the entire match regardless of whether or not you SB in Xantid Swarm or SB out an Infernal Tutor, and I don't think it's comparable to IGG because it actually improves a bad match up as opposed to an already good match up. If Swan Song becomes popular in either the MD or SB of Show&Tell and Reanimator archetypes, the matchup is only going to get worse. So I don't think it's unreasonable for a single player to metagame against the popularity of those archetypes at his discretion.

Bribery is definitely an tertiary card for the SB, to a certain extent I think it's more comparable to Shattering Spree in the sense that Chalice of the Void decks are either in the metagame or they're not. Considering Xantid Swarm is already a concenssion to the SneakShow and Reanimator archetypes in the SB with very little value in aggro-control or control match ups, I've never really understood why it's "ok" to play 3 bugs but not ok to play a Bribery in a 3 round match.

Saying you can just win with Empty the Warrens, Diminishing Returns or Past in Flames with a little "know how" is just bull shit compared to Bribery winning on the spot IMO.

[Lemnear]

It's not quite given that S&T decks run any creatures these days. It's still pretty narrow compared to the Xantid which has also it's use against stuff like Meerfolk.

[Final Fortune]

It's not quite given that S&T decks run any creatures these days. It's still pretty narrow compared to the Xantid which has also it's use against stuff like Meerfolk.

Granted, there's also the version that mills the opponent to death if he has no creatures in his deck tho'.

It's so so vs Merfolk depending on whether or not Dismember comes out.

[Bryant Cook]

Took second in a 51 person event at Jupiter Games today, my losses were to Aggro Loam (Me misplaying game one and mulligan to five against Wasteland/Thalia/Chalice in the second game) and then URB Reanimator with Young Pyromancer and Confidants in the finals.

[phazonmutant]

Took second in a 51 person event at Jupiter Games today, my losses were to Aggro Loam (Me misplaying game one and mulligan to five against Wasteland/Thalia/Chalice in the second game) and then URB Reanimator with Young Pyromancer and Confidants in the finals.

Congrats! Do you know if they're going to post decklists? That winning deck sounds pretty interesting.

[Lemnear]

Back from the first meeting of the New Berlin Gent's Club! Amazing event! Thx to Kai gathering all the guys

[Fade]

The TES player on stream just missed a kill. He Ad Nauseam'd at 15 and with one black floating, storm 2 and one City of Brass untapped. At 4 life, he had the following relevant cards: Lotus petal, burning wish, dark ritual, rite of flame, infernal tutor, gitaxian probe.

He should have probed (storm 3, 2 life), dark ritual (storm 4, BBB), infernal tutor for rite of flame (storm 5, B), rite of flame (storm 6, 1 life, BRR), rite of flame (storm 7, BRRRR), lotus petal (storm 8, BRRRR), burning wish for tendrils (storm 10)

He didn't see the line of play, flipped burning wish and went to 2 life and then went for a weak tendrils and lost.

When this comes up on the archive, Bryant you should sticky it as an example of what NOT to do.

He had a similar kill even when he went to 2 life. He could've LP(3 - 1B), cast rite(4 - 2R, 1B), tutor for DR (5 - 1R), cast DR with LP (6 - 1R, 3B), DR (7 - 1R, 5B), BW (8 - 4B), and Tendrils (9) when Dredge player was at 18.

[Griselpuff]

Nevermind, my way doesn't work, but yours does. You need BB for Tendrils. But yeah, same basic idea.

[akmalik]

rite of flame (storm 7, BRRRR), lotus petal (storm 8, BRRRR), burning wish for tendrils (storm 10)

Nevermind, my way doesn't work, but yours does. You need BB for Tendrils. But yeah, same basic idea.

Try to sac the petal for the missing black mana?

[Griselpuff]

I'm a genius!

Yeah, good point.

[phazonmutant]

Back from the first meeting of the New Berlin Gent's Club! Amazing event! Thx to Kai gathering all the guys

Which one are you? Also, don't see Kai in there...is he hiding?

[Lemnear]

Which one are you? Also, don't see Kai in there...is he hiding?

I'm not sure if we talk about the same "Kai" here ;). In the picture you can spot some known writers and players. Won't fit names to faces on the web. Hope you understand...

It's amazing that so many peeps showed up after Kai picked up the "Gent's Club" idea for Berlin :DD




Edit: i am not on the picture ... someone needed to take it.

Edit 2: I admit it was taken by the waiter ... I was just too late to make it to the photoshooting due to work... (-.-)

[JPoJohnson]

So... I didn't end up making notes well enough to make a tournament report, too many things going on at the same time haha. However, I am happy to report the happenings of the weekend. I took a list similar to the one in the original post (I run 2 Duress 1 Therapy MB and 2 Therapy in the Side), but didn't bring the extra Xantid or Tropical Island in the board.

Round 1 Esper Aggro(?)
G1 He casts two brainstorms... That's all I ever see
G2 He casts a Stoneforge Mystic and that's all I ever saw.

Round 2 Goblins
G1 - He aggros me down to 7, I Ad Nauseam and get enough to win.
G2 - Silence leaves him hanging dead on his Mindbreak Traps
Round 3 Esper Stoneblade
G1T1 - Won the roll and off to the races I went.
G2T4 - He FoW a silence and had three cards left. I Probed and the coast was clear.

Round 4 Merfolk
G1T1 - Had the perfect hand. He FoW twice, but still went off.
G2 - He had two Wastelands, two FoW, and a Cursecatcher. I never drew enough and he eventually clocked me out. I think I kept a weak hand here.
G3T2 - A Turn 1 Xantid made for a quick game

Round 5 TES
G1 - He mulligans down to 4 and never has business.
G2 - He mulligans down again and never does anything once more. He used his silence on my turn at one point to walk me, but it didn't help.



So five rounds, ended up going 10-1 in the end. Pretty successful. I'm not sure what are and are not bad match ups, but they all felt very manageable. I think RUG would have made for a hard matchup, glad none were there (:

[Lemnear]

Mull to 4 ... L.O.L.