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    are you planing to cut the regal force for the second creterhoof?

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    You would need to go absolutely bananas with Birchlore Rangers in order to hardcast Progenitus. Tragically, I have drawn him literally every single time I sided him in, so I am heavily biased against having Prog maindeck.
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    I have Hardcast Pro once. Only once. I had a field full of elves and was facing down a possible top deck wipe. So I went all out to cast him. The guy gave in the moment he hit the table. The thing is, I think 9 times out of 10 if you can hardcast Pro, you are is a very strong position to start with and could likely close out the game by just pure Aggro.
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    Hardcasting Pro?
    Shit.
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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    I have hardcast a Progenitus before...

    After having my hardcast Craterhoof countered...and resolving a NO only to realize that I boarded out my second Hoof.

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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    I think ill cut (or move to the board) the warcaller for Hoof. Right now ill leave the double ancestral recall in the main. sometimes a few more Cards is what i need to combowin. or whatever.

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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    moved warcaller to side.

    added more hoof.

    didnt lose finals this time.

    won byes Again :)

    Bazaar of Moxen, here i come :)

    Funny note: finals was Elves on Elves crime. (gotta stop that) and I won the dieroll like a boss.

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    SCG articles are no longer premium after a month, so everyone can reid duke's legacy report on 1st place with elves

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    Top 8'ed a 60 people event today with elves.

    Apart from the core cards i played with 4 Natural Orders,2 craterhoof, 3 quirion ranger, 2 birchlore rangers and 2 llanowar elves. 19 lands (4 cradle, 1 arbor,2 forests, 9 fetches, 2 bayou 1 savannah). Couldn't decide myself about the dilemma birchlore vs llanowar so i opted for a split,and it felt nice.
    Sideboard:
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    -2 thorn of amethyst
    -2 abrupt decay
    -1 krosan grip
    -1 scavenging ooze
    -1 choke
    -1 progenitus
    -1 ruric thar
    -1 gaddock teeg
    -1 qasali pridemage

    Brief report:

    Match 1 vs OmniTell 2-0. Game 1 i win turn 2 with behemoth, Game 2 i set up a mini combo turn 2 that ended up with a cabal therapy that ripped two omniscience from his hand and with a natural order for ruric thar. Feels good to race show and tell :)
    Match 2 Esperblade 2-1. I lose a very close game 2 then win game 3 although he makes me discard a natural order and a glimpse. I just beat with dudes and when he lands jitte i have a symbiote.
    Match 3 Miracle 0-2. Nothing to say, i feel that this matchup is winnable only with the help of gods(maybe nylea), and it's the reason sometimes i'm unsure about playing elves in tournaments.
    Match 4 Canadian 2-0, game 1 i combo off turn 2, game 2 is grindy and after he trades two 1/1 nimble mongooses with my nettle sentinel (my only creature left with one card in hand) i zenith for ooze and start eating creatures for the win.
    Match 5 Canadian 2-0, game 1 i manage to natural order thanks to a topdecked cradle, game 2 he counters my natural order but next turn i drop choke and he can't do anything aside swinging with a goyf that i chumpblock with elves+symbiote.
    Match 6 against Dredge. Draw into top 8.

    Top 8 Omnitell 0-2. The same guy i faced the first turn , he wants revenge and he earns it because this time he comboes off turn two both games like i did in the swiss. I also mull to 5 game 2 and see no hate so the game wasn't even close.

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    Elves got 15th at the 2013 SCG Legacy Open in Milwaukee

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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

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    i don't understand your strategy on g2\3 versus canadian . You keep natural order main deck on g2 : really ? Natural never resolves with pierce FoW and daze. Prefer playing decay and ooze and out 3 NO and 1 behe (running 2)

    Someone else got the same strategy ? Explain me

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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    I too would keep NO in, perphaps as 3 -off. when ur doin shenanigans, you have the mana.

    also, if they whipe ur board, untapping in midtgame and NO is sweet.

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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    The plan against Canadian (and against a lot of other decks) is to play so much bombs that they can't counter everything. As you can see once my opponent did counter natural order, but then he faced Choke on the following turn. If not a Choke, it could have been a glimpse of nature.

    The risk against canadian is just to be starved on mana because they can stifle your fetchland, kill an early mana dork and then profit with daze. This can happen because we run few lands... but if we manage to assemble a good amount of mana, i don't think canadian is a bad matchup.

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    So, I guess the general consensus is that Natural Order >>>>> Beck//Call?

    What about some weird engine like the interaction between Forbidden Orchard and Beck//Call

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    Quote Originally Posted by AznSeal View Post
    So, I guess the general consensus is that Natural Order >>>>> Beck//Call?

    What about some weird engine like the interaction between Forbidden Orchard and Beck//Call
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    Played in a tournament yesterday — hilarity ensued!

    It was round 3, we were both 2-0 and I had our local Storm Trooper sitting down across the table. He was on the play, mulled down to 6 and kept. Knowing that a slow hand is not gonna get there,especially not against the discard out of ANT, I mull 4 lands, 2 DRS and NO.

    Down to 6 spells.
    Down to 5 spells.
    Down to 3 Spells and a Cradle.

    So I sadly go down to this: Deathrite Shaman,Green Sun's Zenith,Elvish Visonary.

    Turn1 he Probes me with mana and passes. I draw Wooded Foothills, run out a Bayou and the DRS, the pass the turn.
    He does some more cantripping with Probe and Ponder, then passes.
    I draw a Forest for the turn, play the Visionary and pass. More Cantrips out of ANT.
    On my 3rd turn I GSZ=1 for Heritage Druid. He mainphase Brainstorms on his turn, then plays a Fetchland and passes.
    I rip Natural Order like a champ but have to tap all my Elves for it, still Behemoth gets in for 8, putting him down to 9 while threatening 8 damage on the next turn (Behemoth+Visionary+DRS activation).

    He plays another Ponder, then cracks his Fetchland (going down to 8), plays Brainstorm.....AND SCOOPS IT UP!


    Won against ANT on turn 4 after a mulligan to 3 on the draw....made my fucking day
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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    Quote Originally Posted by trevaftw View Post
    Elves got 15th at the 2013 SCG Legacy Open in Milwaukee

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    = 100 % Reid Duke's 75 he used to win. So the Andrew Cuneo build without pre-boarded Scavenging Ooze.

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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    Quote Originally Posted by Phelix View Post
    moved warcaller to side.

    added more hoof.

    didnt lose finals this time.
    May I suggest an Ezuri, Renegade Leader? A recent build of Chris Anderson had an Ezuri, a Hoof and a Regal Force. Currently I'm running these finishers myself. The good thing about Ezuri vs Warcaller is that you can GSZ for him and overrun. Fact is, for the same mana you can fetch a Hoof, but there are definately times that you do'nt have 8 mana, and if your Ezuri sticks, you basicly win next turn.

    I'm doubting though: 1 Ezuri, 2 Hoof might be better. Including bad memories of a game loss where I drew a card too much... You sure as hell don't get that without Regal Force in your deck.



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