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    Re: [Deck] Team America (Aggro/Tempo Thread)

    @BeTep

    Grats on the finish!

    Why did you not run the near mainstay one of sylvan library and instead opt for the second lilliana?
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (Aggro/Tempo Thread)

    lavafrogg thanks!

    I thnik that library is very strong card in TA, played with it dozen times and liked it very much, so if people play library it is good choise.
    But nowadays i feel that TA needs 6 removal spells in main, you cant decay every threat, you know ;) Liliana is very optional - it is removal and discard in one shell. It is very, very good in meta. All star in UWx matches, gives some extra edge in matches versus storm decks, sneak and show, jund, DNT, threshhold. She is almost never bad. I dont wish to topdeck her only versus dredge or elves, in that matchups she is bad.

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    Re: [Deck] Team America (Aggro/Tempo Thread)

    I play 1 tombstalker 1 library 2 Lilliana with the 3rd in the board... I know hie good she is!
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (Aggro/Tempo Thread)




    Wish me luck

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    Marsh Flats.......?

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    Re: [Deck] Team America (Aggro/Tempo Thread)

    Quote Originally Posted by akatsuki View Post
    Marsh Flats.......?
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (Aggro/Tempo Thread)

    Good luck in vegas! I think it will be a great meta for bug, tons of equipment to decay and combo to ruin!
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (Aggro/Tempo Thread)

    Quote Originally Posted by KobeBryan View Post
    Wish me luck
    Good luck.!!

    I will be running almost the same list this weekend for the Dutch Championships but for SB I am considering -1 Disfigure, -1 Needle, +2 Flusterstorm
    because I tend to run into storm decks quite often. Also helps my blue count after boarding.
    Currently Playing: Scapefit , Shardless BUG, Team America,

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    Best of luck, KobeBryan! List is really solid and the deck looks very well positioned. Keep a running tally of how many True-Name Nemesis you kill with postboard Golgari Charms.

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    Best of luck to both of you!

    On a side note, I'd advice against taking out cards that help our closer matchups and replacing them with cards that help make our good marchups better.
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    Re: [DTB] Team America (Aggro/Tempo Thread)

    Grats everyone on DTB status. This is a cool of a DTB set as he have had in a long time.
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    Re: [DTB] Team America (Aggro/Tempo Thread)

    Quote Originally Posted by lavafrogg View Post
    Grats everyone on DTB status. This is a cool of a DTB set as he have had in a long time.
    Could stand to have less nigh-indestructible merfolk and griseltards, imo.
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    Pretty sure every time I don't play this deck I'm giving away free money. I took a break from this deck and have been playing UW TrueBlade, Storm, Dredge, MUD and Elves. I got tired of not dominating, so I switched back to TA with the same list I had from SCG Providence and promptly went 6-2 at a tournament, winning a Tundra (UL), a FoW and a Thoughtseize.

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    Thinking about going back to this deck. Is there a clear advantage of the blue centric lists that have popped up a little bit (http://mtgtop8.com/event?e=6050&d=235024) compared to the traditional UB heavy list? How important are Hymn to Tourach and Tombstalker compared to playing a less black heavy build? I understand it in theory but I would like opinions.

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    I wanted the True-Name Nemesis list to be good, but I think that Team America with TNN just lacks punch. You gain an evasive beater/eternal wall and less susceptibility as a whole to Rest in Peace and Submerge, but you lose the raw power of Hymn to Tourach (Thoughtseize is far too polite for what this deck wants to be doing), Tombstalker (costs less mana than TNN, is virtually just as evasive, dodges Abrupt Decay and Lightning Bolt, and has +2 power) and Liliana of the Veil (well, she's Lily 2.0). Akatsuki wrote a lot about this in his tournament report on Channel Fireball.

    I do think that the TNN version can shine in a meta that's heavier on Tundra decks, but I think it's weaker than traditional Team America for the most part.

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    What Gransuperior said. Hymn to Tourach often gives this deck the explosive starts that allow it to just completely reck opponents sometimes. Tombstalker provides the deck with a hard to kill finisher after they've dealt with your preceding threats. In theory at least I would think the Nemeseize version is better against Trueblade decks in general, but I have beaten them preboard with the Hymnstalker version. Can be tough but not impossible. Then postboard those match ups become at least even, sometimes in my favor depending on what I get going in the early game. I tried the Nemeseize version for a little though. The biggest problem I noticed was that even though True-Name is probably a better card than Tombstalker in general, the former can sometimes cost too much since he still is a three-drop whereas Tombstalker is effectively a lategame two drop. Also, playing True-Name Nemesis makes it awkward to play golgari charm, one of the best sb cards we are playing at the moment. Heck, I've even been main decking one to much success.
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    Re: [DTB] Team America (Aggro/Tempo Thread)

    Went 6-0 for 1st/62 or so today.

    2-0 against Elves (Disfigure + Charm is sooo good right now, 2 Cages help as well)
    2-0 against BG Reanimator (some brew including Varolz and reanimation package)
    2-0 against Deathlade
    2-1 against 12Post
    2-1 against Can Thresh
    2-0 against Shardless

    Deck is a Blast to play. Toyed around with some other decks but this one is still the very best ;)

    SB was nothing special except 2 JtMs and 1 Loam found their way in, Loam might stay, Jace rather not.

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    Re: [DTB] Team America (Aggro/Tempo Thread)

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackStarDeceiver View Post
    Went 6-0 for 1st/62 or so today.

    2-0 against Elves (Disfigure + Charm is sooo good right now, 2 Cages help as well)
    2-0 against BG Reanimator (some brew including Varolz and reanimation package)
    2-0 against Deathlade
    2-1 against 12Post
    2-1 against Can Thresh
    2-0 against Shardless

    Deck is a Blast to play. Toyed around with some other decks but this one is still the very best ;)

    SB was nothing special except 2 JtMs and 1 Loam found their way in, Loam might stay, Jace rather not.
    what matches did you find yourself siding in loam? been curious myself.
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    Re: [DTB] Team America (Aggro/Tempo Thread)

    Quote Originally Posted by Myelectronicdays View Post
    what matches did you find yourself siding in loam? been curious myself.
    12 Post, just to add another angle of locking them out, Waste + Loam is obviously insane.

    Canadian to fight their Wastelands, especially if they have Loam theirselves and for Shardless and Deathblade, where i do side in the 2 Jaces, as Loam + Jace is really sick together.

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    Re: [DTB] Team America (Aggro/Tempo Thread)

    Gratz to blackstardeceiver. I did not do very well today.
    Aggro pox draw
    Sneak and show 1-2
    Sneak and show 1-2 but got myself to blame for very bad misplay on timing Lili
    Death Blade 2-1
    Death & Taxes 2-0
    Elves 0-2
    Burn 0-2 but I had to mull to 4!

    I like the deck a lot. Against combo it can be weak if your draws are not perfect. Did not use flusterstorm and will side 2 Thought seize next time.
    Best card in the deck Sylvan library because it gives so much card advantage.
    Worst card : flusterstorm in sb

    Still enjoyed playing the deck and would not change maindeck.
    Currently Playing: Scapefit , Shardless BUG, Team America,

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