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    On the original topic, I'm a little surprised that Rune-Scarred Demon hasn't found a home in some kind of food chain deck.

    Greater Good/Momentous Fall have combo potential, but they don't see much in the way of play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rufus View Post
    On the original topic, I'm a little surprised that Rune-Scarred Demon hasn't found a home in some kind of food chain deck.

    Greater Good/Momentous Fall have combo potential, but they don't see much in the way of play.
    I'm tempted to build a rogue deck called "Greater Goyf". Probably with Varolz and Phyrexian Dreadnought

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    Quote Originally Posted by rufus View Post
    On the original topic, I'm a little surprised that Rune-Scarred Demon hasn't found a home in some kind of food chain deck.
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    There's no reason to run RSD. Fierce Empath is superior in every way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DragoFireheart View Post
    There's no reason to run RSD. Fierce Empath is superior in every way.
    Maybe he means something to Fierce Empath into if you don't have the Griffin combo to generate enough mana to cast Emrakul. Then you could Empath for and cast Rune-Scarred into infiniGriffin.

    RSD might have seen play as a plan B if there wasn't a bigger, fatter, lifelinking guy that puts 7-14 cards in your hand instead of just one for pretty much the same cost.

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    Does it matter even that Sneak Attack -> RSD, find Emmy, Sneak Attack -> Emmy, attack = 21 damages?

    There iswas a Vintage deck called (i think) ICBM Oath that could chain RSDs into forever-Time Walk and then just win. There must be some Legacy parallel, though whether it's better than just straight SnT into Eldrazi, I have no idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FTW View Post
    I'm tempted to build a rogue deck called "Greater Goyf". Probably with Varolz and Phyrexian Dreadnought
    Yeah, I'd thought Death's Shadow and Call to the Netherworld, but Varolz is better...

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    No Dash Hopes? gtfo

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    No Dash Hopes? gtfo
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    Re: Obscure Cards with Latent Potential

    Quote Originally Posted by rufus View Post
    On the original topic, I'm a little surprised that Rune-Scarred Demon hasn't found a home in some kind of food chain deck.

    Greater Good/Momentous Fall have combo potential, but they don't see much in the way of play.
    I've honestly always wondered if there's a really good food chain deck we are all missing.
    Playing some variety of delver.

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    Re: Obscure Cards with Latent Potential

    There is goblins , if goblin recruiter will ever come back in legacy :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benrobnu View Post
    I've honestly always wondered if there's a really good food chain deck we are all missing.
    There most likely is. It's only a matter of time TBH.

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    Re: Obscure Cards with Latent Potential

    Quote Originally Posted by DragoFireheart View Post
    There most likely is. It's only a matter of time TBH.
    The issue with food chain is that its unreliable unless you can tutor for it. Even then its a 1 of. There are no other cards like it to improve consistency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by apple713 View Post
    The issue with food chain is that its unreliable unless you can tutor for it. Even then its a 1 of. There are no other cards like it to improve consistency.
    There's an awful lot of ways to tutor for an enchantment though. Granted they tend to be , but they're there. Sterling Grove isn't a bad card per se.

    I think the problem with Food Chain is that it is an intermediate step in a process that can typically be avoided. Like, maybe if Food Chain just put the creature in the graveyard there would be something nasty there, but the exile effect means that Food Chain is never a two-card combo (except with Misthollow Griffin, but I think it's been done and was never very good). Besides, Green decks would rather just skip the foreplay and cast GSZ or NO anyway.

    It works with Goblin Recruiter because of Goblin Ringleader, but to be fair Gobvantage (Recruiter + Ringleader) was a thing way before Food Chain entered the mix. Food Chain filled a really narrow niche as being one of maybe a dozen non-Goblin cards that could potentially go into a Goblin deck. I think that makes it look a lot stronger than it actually is.
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    I think the problem with Food Chain is that it is an intermediate step in a process that can typically be avoided. Like, maybe if Food Chain just put the creature in the graveyard there would be something nasty there, but the exile effect means that Food Chain is never a two-card combo (except with Misthollow Griffin, but I think it's been done and was never very good). Besides, Green decks would rather just skip the foreplay and cast GSZ or NO anyway....
    You can - in theory - run lines of play similar to the ones that Aluren does where you chain through Court Hussar,Raven Familiar, and Sea Gate Oracle into Fierce Empath.

    Food Chain+Imperial Recruiter or Goblin Matron can deterministically combo out, but involve some jankiness in the lines of play.

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    Re: Obscure Cards with Latent Potential

    Quote Originally Posted by rufus View Post
    You can - in theory - run lines of play similar to the ones that Aluren does where you chain through Court Hussar,Raven Familiar, and Sea Gate Oracle into Fierce Empath.

    Food Chain+Imperial Recruiter or Goblin Matron can deterministically combo out, but involve some jankiness in the lines of play.
    Those are still not very good examples of two-card combos. :)

    I dunno, I like Food Chain, I used to play FCG when people played Vintage round these parts and he doesn't afraid of anything, but I think if you're just going for some kind of giant beater you're still just better off casting NO. vOv

    Besides, I'll just Dash Hopes your Food Chain, and then where will you be? :(
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    Re: Obscure Cards with Latent Potential

    Dwarven Recruiter is gonna be awesome in like ten years when WotC forgets he exists and prints a set with Dwarves as a viable tribe.
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    Re: Obscure Cards with Latent Potential

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    Dwarven Recruiter is gonna be awesome in like ten years when WotC forgets he exists and prints a set with Dwarves as a viable tribe.
    Still needs the Ringleader to really break, but yeah.
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    Re: Obscure Cards with Latent Potential

    Quote Originally Posted by TsumiBand View Post
    Still needs the Ringleader to really break, but yeah.
    Dwarven Recruiter and Descendants Path, welcome to value town. Descendants Path is a another card in a similar vein to food chain that feels like there's combo potential but is likely just worst than show and tell or reanimator.
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