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Indeed. Denver is gonna be awesome. We could all play Tin Fins and just ruin the meta.
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Yeah, we ID if that occurs.
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I've always wondered what the Tinfins Mirror would look like.
I figure it would just turn into a friendly fist fight in the parking lot, since it would be less painful.
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Eh, combo mirrors aren't that bad. It's either over quickly or very interesting.
The TinFins mirror looks a lot like the TES matchup or mirror. You're both playing Silence + discard, so there's some interesting dynamics like when to leave up Silence, Entomb EOT into main-phase Reanimate shenanigans, and double-Silence blowouts. One tip - unless you have perfect hand knowledge, never play more than one combo piece in a turn without double Silence and a way to cast both. They always have the Silence into the combo.
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Here is how Richard Cheese and I played the mirror match when we got paired against each other at GP Atlanta in a grinder the night before the event:
Richard turn 1's me twice in a row. He then paid my entry into the next grinder as compensation. :)
True. I tend to treat most combo match ups as a pseudo mirror, we both run on a similar axis and utilize similar tools to finish the job. Just have to either be faster or outmaneuver with Silencios.
Maybe we can all have a Gentleman's Agreement to ID, then go get a beer (or other agreed upon drink).
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I think the biggest thing is the deep seeded emotional understanding that the right play is the right play regardless of outcomes. The ability to make a decision 5 straight times, lose 5 times because of it, and still make it the 6th time if it's the right play. - Jon Finkel
"Notions of chance and fate are the preoccupation of men engaged in rash undertakings."
I lol'ed. 1. 2. 3. Do eet.
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Yeah, 2 weeks ago in San Diego Joey V. played against me. He went off turn one both times. Also, last Thursday I watched him Daze an opponent to protect his combo. I really think Daze belongs in the deck. Also, the Mox Diamond works wonders. I think the following list we've come up with stays true to the intent of Tin Fins and adds combo-turn protection:
// Deck: Daze Fins (61)
// Lands
3 Marsh Flats
4 Polluted Delta
1 Scrubland
1 Swamp
1 Tundra
4 Underground Sea
// Creatures
1 Children of Korlis
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
2 Griselbrand
// Spells
4 Brainstorm
4 Cabal Therapy
1 Chrome Mox
4 Dark Ritual
4 Daze
4 Entomb
4 Gitaxian Probe
3 Goryo's Vengeance
2 Lim-Dûl's Vault
4 Lotus Petal
1 Mox Diamond
3 Ponder
4 Shallow Grave
1 Tendrils of Agony
// Sideboard
SB: 3 Chain of Vapor
SB: 2 Massacre
SB: 2 Pithing Needle
SB: 2 Serenity
SB: 3 Silence
SB: 2 Surgical Extraction
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Noloam said, "i lost an unloseable game against miracles, where i accidentally tapped my tomb for lethal.."
If you're going to play daze, why not just play pact of negation? If you're only looking at protecting the combo turn (which I'd assume you are, based on your description of why daze), isn't it just better?
Because Pact at the wrong time or in the wrong situation loses games, while Daze can be amazing in more situations. For example, I Dazed an opponents Show and Tell which gave me the opportunity to get my pieces together within two more turns and then win. Pact would have been useless.
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Noloam said, "i lost an unloseable game against miracles, where i accidentally tapped my tomb for lethal.."
Haven't played Tinfins in awhile, I switched to playing Re-animator, which feels much more consistent and resilient to hate. Though, since I sold my FOW's ahead of the MOC's give-aways, I "sleeved up" UB Tinfins, which I think I finally found the ideal sideboard configuration. It was good fun blowing opponents away on turn 0 again :-) ...went 13-1 in the matches I played over the last 2 days.
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Legacy Daily #7035737 on 04/30/2014
Main Deck
60 cards
2 Flooded Strand
1 Island
1 Marsh Flats
4 Polluted Delta
1 Swamp
4 Underground Sea
13 lands
1 Children of Korlis
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
1 Griselbrand
3 creatures
4 Brainstorm
4 Cabal Therapy
1 Chrome Mox
4 Dark Ritual
4 Entomb
4 Gitaxian Probe
3 Goryo's Vengeance
2 Lim-DÆl's Vault
4 Lotus Petal
4 Ponder
2 Reanimate
3 Shallow Grave
1 Tendrils of Agony
4 Thoughtseize
44 other spells
Sideboard
1 Chain of Vapor
2 Dread of Night
1 Engineered Explosives
1 Flusterstorm
2 Massacre
2 Pithing Needle
1 Ratchet Bomb
4 Surgical Extraction
1 Swan Song
y the split on dread and massacre? isnt massacre better since you dont have to pay 1B through thalia? or is it to jam against a uw deck naming it with a meddling mage? also with so few griselbrands mb do u have trouble binning a dude with only entomb since u likely wont be able to discard urself into a fatty? I also took a bit of a break but now im wondering with we should follow storm.and reanimator and put in a trop or bayou mb and sb some abrupt decays since it hits all our problem perments and cant be countered.
You could always Shallow Grave Protean Hulk into play, flashback Therapy or something, get six Apostles and then go get Griselbrand...
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