Hey guys. Played in the BoM main event and went 8-2 (losing round nine while being 7-1 and missing out on top 8). I ended up placing 18. It was my first big tournament and feel like the deck and I performed really well
I'll probably try and write a more detailed report when I get home on Monday or Tuesday but in brief, here is how it went down:
I started out by 5-0ing a trial and getting 2 byes beating shardless, dredge, elves, ant (mirror) and BG midrange depths.
The main event:
Rnd 1 vs:Bye 2-0 WIN
Rnd 2 vs: Bye 2-0 WIN
Rnd 3 vs: Death and Taxes 2-1 WIN
Rnd 4 vs: BUG Delver 1-2 LOSS
Rnd 5 vs: Death and Taxes 2-0 WIN
Rnd 6 vs: Elves 2-0 WIN
Rnd 7 vs: Miracles 2-0 WIN
Rnd 8 vs: BUG Delver 2-0 WIN
Rnd 9 vs: Bant Blade 0-2 LOSS
Rnd 10 vs: Elves 2-0 WIN
Yeah, I'll have a look at my notepad when I get back to Denmark and will try and write something more detailed. In the mean time there are trials for BoM10 today and tomorrow so I'll definitely play in at least one of them![]()
Congratulation Nevilshute!
Well i endet up...17th with Ant @ Bom :-)
Like nevilshute i won a trial the day before and during the main event i went like:
Bye
Bye
2:0 uwr delver
1:2 miracle
2:0 team america
2:1 jund
2:1 shardless bug
2:0 omnitell
1:2 death&taxes
2:0 burn
80 -> 17th of 534 participants.
Just a few notes:
-> 2 Ad Nauseam were nuts,i'm going to stay with them for sure.
-> my secret tech against miracle: Young Pyromancer
Maybe one of the best cards in my sideboard,the game becomes pretty unfair if you build an huge army while mindtwisting your opponent with therapys AND building a perfect hand.
High 5,
Kai Thiele
- Team RUG-STAR Berlin -
Congratulations to you too Sawatrix
I think I might have been sitting next to you in Rnd 9.
How did the pyromancers work out for you?
I'll post my list when I get home :)
Cheers,
Martin
Last edited by nevilshute; 05-04-2014 at 02:51 AM.
Nice Results Guys,
@nevilshute i think i played against you in the BoM 10 Trial yesterday in Round 2 and i lose after a crazy Ad Nauseam and i dont find any Rituals in 3 rounds..;)
Greets Pascal
Hello!
great results at boom. At least while watching never saw a combo deck there that was not elfs.
One question Im right now playing a versión with 1 sensei top and 2 preordain, no BW and no grim no etw.
I wanna side in 3 xantid for the sneak atack deck but I usualy just put out 2 preordain and the other card is a ponder cause I think top is really good in this MU.
Is this right? or would you side out any other card(s).
Thats from playing tes to side out a ponder but may be here there are other cards that are better to side out.
The top is the card you actually want to cut. We are not trying to grind out a game against them because they'll eventually just resolve a permanent that wins the, the game with a hand full of counter-magic - especially the version running Daze - which slows us down enough to resolve a Sneak Attack or Show and Tell. Grinding is what the Top is for. It's mana intensive and kinda clunky. Ponder is just a better card overall in this match.
Against show and tell you cut senseis devining top,the 15th land and one cabal ritual.
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I was testing the pre-board Miracles matchup with a friend and came up with my most bizarre line to date so far.
He was on the play but had no early pressure, while I spent my turns 1 and 2 casting Duress and Cabal Therapy for his Brainstorm and Counterspell. He eventually set up top and filtered his draws, while I used four cantrips across turns 2 and 3. Despite using two Brainstorms to shuffle away four lands and using a Preordain and Ponder to get rid of any lands I saw, I still had way too many.
He eventually set up a Counterbalance on turn 4 or 5 and eventually paired that with a second Top. By this point my hand had included three Cabal Rituals, a Lion's Eye Diamond, and an Infernal Tutor. Unfortunately, I was hit with a draw-step Vendilion Clique while at 15 life which took away my Infernal Tutor and left me with a blank (Dark Ritual).
The next turn later I ripped a Tendrils of Agony. I decided to wait for two more draw steps so that I would have 8 cards in hand to work with, by which point the Clique would have brought me down to 6. Those two draw steps brought me a Grim Tutor and an Infernal Tutor. On the previous draw step, my opponent tapped 4 of his lands to cast Jace, fatesealing me and leaving the card on top. Thus, the board state was as follows:
Him (18 life)
- Four tapped lands, 1 untapped Tundra, 1 untapped Tarn
- Vendilion Clique
- Counterbalance
- Two Sensei's Divining Top
- Hand: five cards, of which two were known (Terminus, Swords to Plowshares)
Me (6 life)
- 2 Underground Sea, Volcanic Island, Badlands, Swamp, two fetchlands
- Hand: seven cards--Tendrils of Agony, 3 Cabal Ritual, Dark Ritual, Grim Tutor, Lion's Eye Diamond. (The subsequent draw step gave me an Infernal Tutor as my eighth card.)
At the end of my opponent's turn, I cracked the two fetchlands, putting me at 4 life, grabbing an Island and a Tropical Island (the last two fetchable lands in my deck).
I led with Lion's Eye Diamond (storm 1), which resolved. I followed that with a Cabal Ritual, tapping Island and Swamp (resolved: storm 2, BBBBB). A second Cabal Ritual resolved (storm 3, BBBBBBBB). Since my opponent has shown that he did not have a 2-drop on top, I went ahead and played Infernal Tutor with the intention of grabbing a fourth Cabal Ritual. My opponent responded with a top, so I responded by casting the third Cabal Ritual in my hand, which resolved (storm 5, BBBBBBBBB). The Infernal Tutor on the stack then resolved, so I grabbed a Dark Ritual. I played a Dark Ritual, which was countered (storm 6, BBBBBBBBB). I played the Grim Tutor in my hand (storm 7, BBBBB), which was met with a Force of Will (storm 8, opponent at 17). I then played out the Dark Ritual in my hand (countered), followed by Tendrils as the 10th spell for the turn, with 5 lands still untapped and LED still in play.
My opponent's only out was to fetch for a Tundra (16 life), cast Swords to Plowshares on his Clique (19 life), while hoping to flip a 4 to Counterbalance to counter one copy of Tendrils. Instead, he flipped a Force of Will, which would have brought him to 18 life if had had pitch-casted it to counter one copy of Tendrils.
This deck is such a blast!
Well there were many questions about my sideboard i played at BoM and a lot people asked me about my choices so i would like to explain the main board and sideboard
in particular.
-> 2 Ad Nauseam in the Mainboard:
On thursday i played a couple of trials for the mainevent (total 15 rounds with ant)
To get a peek at the metagame i'm going to face the next days.
I was shocked by two things:
There were many miracle but also jund/team america decks (say hymn to tourach decks)out there.
Delver decks were kind of absent,especially rug delver and uwr delver so i pondered about my business spells in my mainboard and came to the conclusion that running 2 ad nauseam would be great.
Having a card that refills your hand after a couple of discard spells seemed good.you can also have faster openings with turn 1-2 ad nauseam from you hand to race hatebears and stuff.
Empty the warrens is not an option right now because every deck has -1/-1 cards in the board like golgari charm and zealous persecution.
Now the question i was asked the most during the last couple of days:
"How often did you flip the second ad nauseam kai?"
Well i played 23 rounds with during the weekend and i flipped it 3-4 times but 2 times i won on the same turn thanks to chrome mox.
Notice that you can also easily stop ad nauseam at 10 life or so if you have
Flipped good cards for a save kill on the next turn when facing an aggressive creature deck.
I'll stay with 2 ad nauseam and 1 chrome mox in the future because here in berlin we have many combo players (my buddy carsten kotter among them) and having a faster deck in the mirror seems good.
Now my secret sideboardchoice for BoM:
Young Pyromancer !
Yes many people were curious when they saw me on the top tables with this weird dude in my Sideboard during BoM.
Even a judge (luca from italy) was very interested and started a discussion on young pyromancer afterwards so i'll give some explanations on that:
Miracle is not a good matchup and i wanted to crush them with cards they don't expect to next level them.
Young Pyromancer is just nuts against miracle during g2 and g3:
Just slam him on the board and start to cast cantrips and duress effect.
My opponent now has to get rid of the dudes on the table which is a 3-5 turn clock most of the time while also being able to stop my combo (i still have a full hand!)
Cabal therapys becomes insane,too.
The biggest question i was asked afterwards:
"Can you imagine to bring in young pyromancer against any other deck?"
To be honest,i'm not sure enough so what i need is your feedback on that question guys.
- Team RUG-STAR Berlin -
Interesting -
Young Pyromancer vs Dark Confidant
Brings 1/1 tokens vs bring additional cards
Dies to removal but with response bring token vs dies to removal
great in defense vs poor in defense (chump once :) )
great in offense vs not to great in offense
In sum up - Young Pyromancer look nice as a gateholder, and additonal clock but true combo bringer is for sure Dark Confidant.
Next to discuss why not running both :D
congrats for finish at BoM9.
Whyle its ok to put in a card vs miracles that is so cool i have some questions:
whyle it has a so big sinergy with cabal why not playing 4 cabal 3 duress? I play 4 duress 3 cabal in my vuild without empty in the side. but I think playing the Young its better therapy there.
Its cool to bring it in becuase I thing Miracles will take out terminus leaving explosives and some swords. Usualy getting 2-3 tokens is enought to make ur opponent get angry at you. but its not our abrupt decay a good enought plan?
I think that confidant in ANT is quite bad. A good control player will leave always at least 2-3 swords to deal with xantid. This is at least better.
Having to put at least 6 cards vs miracles what did you take out for this? Cause its a really huge quantity of cards.
I can think of some matchups where the youg is good. MUD for example.
Congrats on your result.
It is a matter of investment. With EtW you usually invest all your hand into a 2 turn clock; with pyromancer you just give up a single card for a realistic 4-turn clock instead.
As you usually cantrip and sling discard for a few turns, pyromancer just gives additional value for things you'll do anyways and possibly just killing your opponent in the process by itself
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Grats on finishing 17th Sawatrix, one spot higher than me!
Well, I brought ANT to the BoM and finished 18th. Here's the list I played:
4x Dark Ritual
4x Cabal Ritual
4x Lion's Eye Diamond
4x Lotus Petal
4x Infernal Tutor
1x Grim Tutor
1x Tendrils of Agony
1x Empty the Warrens
2x Past in Flames
4x Brainstorm
4x Ponder
4x Gitaxian Probe
4x Cabal Therapy
2x Duress
1x Thoughtseize
4x Polluted Delta
4x Scalding Tarn
2x Underground Sea
1x Volcanic Island
1x Tropical Island
1x Badlands
1x Gemstone Mine
1x Island
1x Swamp
Sideboard:
3x Abrupt Decay
3x Xantid Swarm
2x Chain of Vapor
2x Carpet of Flowers
2x Massacre
1x Pyroclasm
1x Ad Nauseam
1x Tendrils of Agony
So, after winning a trial on Thursday I was all set with two byes for the main event. We were a group of nine guys from Copenhagen that had made the trip together and a few others had byes as well. While round one was under way those of us not playing yet were jokingly telling each other that the one thing we didn't want to have happen was to meet each other before the top-8
Well, round three comes up and I'm psyched... ready to go and... I get paired up against my friend Hans. Great!
Round three. Versus Hans with Death and Taxes. 2-1
Hans and I have played each other at our LGS maybe half a dozen times. Lately he only plays Death and Taxes. I feel pretty okay with that matchup and I won the last time I played him. I win the dice roll and decide to be on the play. We both keep sevens. Unfortunately my deck kind of bricks on me during my first two turns where I cantrip but don't get enough gas to go off. I have to settle for discarding his Thalia, leaving him with a Revoker which he drops on turn 2 naming LED. Then next turn he takes his Aether Vial to 2 counters and is ready to vial in an Avenger. 2 turns later I'm ready to go off with Grim Tutor but it will leave me at 1 life after casting it twice through Past in Flames. It would be okay, seeing as I can get to exactly storm 10 this way, but I know he's holding a fucking Swords to Plowshares in hand with an open Plains. In the end I have to just bite the bullet and Tendrils him for 20 and hope he missed his play. He doesn't miss it and plows his avenger going to 3 life. I die in a few turns as he draws a Thalia. Don't remember much from game two but I think I won it fairly quickly. Know it was through Past in Flames. Game three he gets down Thalia and Mom. He's also sandbagging a Canonist that for some reason he doesn't feel like playing, presumably because he's scared of Massacre. Only taking 2 a turn gives me a lot of breathing space and when I'm finally holding 2 Cabal Rituals, an LED, a Dark Rit, an Infernal Tutor, Past in Flames and a Grim Tutor with a loaded graveyard I cast both rituals from 3 of my 4 lands. I cast Grim Tutor and grab Massacre and finish the job. I felt really bad for having been paired up against a buddy, but was at the same time obviously relieved to be off to a good start.
3-0
Round four. Versus Damien with Bug Delver. 1-2
So I get up against Damien from France. I win the dice roll and we both keep sevens. My memories of these games are a bit hazy. I'm a bit uncertain at first whether he's playing shardless or delver. He takes game one which is pretty even. Game two belongs to me and I then lose pretty clearly in game three. During the sideboarded games I see Flusterstorms, Clique and Cage. Pretty much what you'd expect.
Well, the dream of X-0'ing was short lived! Still in it though.
3-1
Round five. Versus Julian with Death and Taxes. 2-0
Death and Taxes again! Being from Copenhagen you get to play this matchup quite a bit. Julian from France was new to Legacy but played tight. Regardless both games play out quite favorably to me and are both quite similar. I lose the dice roll but we both keep sevens. He basically keeps hands that only really has revoker and some land hate and I eventually get there.
Alright! Getting there. 4-1 now, just keep at it.
4-1
Round six. Versus Bernd with Elves. 2-0
So Bernd is a friendly, if very pensive, fellow from Germany. He wins the dice roll and after we both keep sevens he goes Wooded Foothills -> Forest -> Nettle Sentinel. Elves... really? Thanks! I kill him on my sencond turn. We get deck checked between games one and two. All is fine, but afterwards Bernd gets horribly unfortunate and mulligans to four cards. It is, however, at this point that my brain decides to take an extended lunch break... maybe it was because I was so happy at the prospect of actually being 5-1 up in the BoM main event that I let my mind wander. Regardless, I make a gigantic play mistake. I basically miscount and start going off. I haven't made such a misplay for the past several months but now I slip up. I even know his hand which is: 2x NO, Glimpse Elvish Visionary and he has 1 land in play which means I have plenty of time but I decide to rush it. I blow my entire hand and then realize I'm one mana short due to wanting to be cute with Chain of Vapor on my own stuff. I tank hard and eventually just have to tendrils him for 18 dmg. He straightens up and suddenly eyes a come back. Luckily I am able to rebuild in a few turns and when he NO's for a Deathrite Shaman and not Ruric Thar (we spoke afterwards and he was afraid that with me being at 30+ life Ruric wouldn't be enough) I am able to untap and win with a soft double ritual, Past in Flames Tendrils.
Yes! Somehow got away with making a terrible mistake. 5-1 Get in!
5-1
Round seven: Versus Davide with Miracles. 2-0
I sit down in front what must hands down be the nicest man at all of the Bazaar. Davide is from Italy and is a legacy and vintage enthusiast. He has a big blue Lego block next to his notepad (!) and when he learns that I'm from Denmark he gets so excited and wants to show me his lego alterations in his vintage deck which I get to see afterwards (PS: pretty awesome deck bro). I win the dice roll and we both keep sevens. I have kept a very questionable hand, admittedly. It's 3 lands, cabal therapy, Petal, Dark Rit, Empty the Warrens. Basically it's 8 goblins on turn 2 or 6 on turn 1 against an unknown opponent. But I might draw something to up my storm count, ideally a probe. I play a fetchland and pass. He drops an island, plays a ponder, keeps and passes the turn. Hmm... combo? Maybe. What else? Stoneblade? Miracles? I draw for the turn... another land. Crap! I decide to hell with it and plan for my 8 goblins. I crack my fetch and grab an Underground Sea and Cast Therapy. He thinks for a few seconds and says "resolves". I think... what don't I want to see? Well if it's combo I can flashback therapy and grab what's most scary. If it's miracles then... well then I'm not sure. If it's a blade deck, however, and he has a stoneforge mystic then I'm dead. I finally decide to name Stoneforge. He shows me: 2x Counterbalance, fetchland, Force of Will, Brainstorm Swords to Plowshares.
Hmm... if he forces either my Ritual or my Petal then I'm fucked. He's never forcing a petal though, so it's down to that Dark ritual. I then play another land. Then I lead out with Petal. Resolves. I then tap my land and play Dark Ritual. He thinks long... he even moves up a card from his hand and then moves it back down. "Resolves", sweet! Cast Empty, storm trigger 4. He raises an eyebrow and quickly forces one copy dropping to 19 and pitching one of his Counterbalances. Okay, 6 goblins. I think really hard and finally decide that I need to sacrifice one turn on the clock to flashback therapy and take his brainstorm. He draws for the turn, plays a fetchland, fetches going down to 18 life and slams counterbalance. I take the turn and get in for 5. He's at 13. He draws, plays a land and says go. I attack and he plows one of my dudes. I get in for 4. He's at 9. He draws and passes the turn. I draw and move in for 4, he drops to 5. He takes the turn and goes to draw his card. Terminus... in the blind... ouch! I humbly remove my 4 tokens and he passes the turn. I'm now staring down a counterbalance but luckily no top. In my hand is an LED a land and a dark Ritual. I have 3 lands in play. I draw and it's a brainstorm. I decide to test the Waters out. I cast LED. He triggers balance and reveals - again in the blind - a land. LED countered. But okay, at least I can resolve Brainstorm barring any counterspells in his hand. I go ahead and cast brainstorm. He let's it resolve. Draw: another land. Cabal Ritual and... Tendrils of Agony... YES!. Put back land and cabal ritual. Play dark ritual. Resolves. Play tendrils, storm is 4.
Okay sideboard time... I've tested an enormous amount against this matchup. Adopting the approach from the Grinding Station article written by Jonathan Alexander (http://theweeklywars.wordpress.com/2...-storm-primer/) I bring in the extra tendrils, the swarms, the decays and two carpet of flowers. Bring out some petals, some ponders, grim tutor, shave a few probes.
He elects to be on the play which is actually what I want. For six or so turns we just play very few spells. I make all my land drops which is important. I discard him twice, he pierces once, it's fine. On turn three or four he plays Top. On his seventh turn he tries to resolve counterbalance. My hand is heavy on rituals and LEDs but I am missing a storm card. I have a tutor but that's never going to resolve. I also have a brainstorm which I cast in response. I would like to peel an Abrupt Decay for his balance. I don't find it, but I do find another brainstorm, so with the balance still on the stack I crack a fetch and brainstorm again. Still no decay but I do find my Empty the Warrens. Hello! "Okay, Counterbalance resolves". He passes the turn. He has three tapped lands and an untapped Fetchland. I draw and then lead out with LED. I have 6 lands in play. He doesn't know the top of his library and is (correctly) hesitant about cracking his fetchland to activate top so he blind flips. Counterspell. CMC2. LED resolves. Play Lotus Petal. Resolves (storm 2) I have 2 dark rituals, a cabal ritual, a tutor and empty. I cast Dark Ritual (storm 3). He tanks... finally he lets it resolve. I play the 2nd (storm 4). Resolves. I then play Cabal ritual. Counterbalance counters it (storm 5), infernal tutur. Countered (storm 6). Empty the warrens (storm 7). 14 goblins. BOOM!. He has 2 turns to find an answer but doesn't and I grab the win.
YES! Boom, miracles down, was dreading that a bit but all the testing paid off. That and getting very lucky in game 1 of course.
6-1
Round eight: Versus Maximilian with Bug Delver. 2-0
I'm now deeper in the tournament than I ever expected. I see the pairings and am a little nervous that I'm playing against Maximilian Lorenz who had just been on camera at the feature match table. Also because I had been seated next to him during an earlier round and know he is on Bug Delver, so far the only deck I've lost to. I win the dice roll and we both keep sevens. I lead with fetch, Island, Ponder. Max hesitates, indicating that he's thinking about responding... on turn zero... Force of Will? No, that would never happen... does it mean he has it though? He finally lets it resolve. Now I'll take a minute to mention that Max was a really friendly young guy from Germany, but boy was he intense! I don't think I've been as nervous as when I played against him. He thoughtseizes me during the first few turns and drops a goyf into play as well as a flipped delver. I sculpt and am ready to go off but have no information about his hand except for the Daze he flipped the delver with. He has Pondered once I think. I decided to hold out and risk him getting a relevant card, but hope to peel a probe or discard spell to let me know what's going. When I don't get it I'm forced to go off and as it turns out, he had nothing. Phew. Game two gets extremely grindy. He doesn't get much of a threat happening and I'm finally able to make 14 goblins which gets me there.
Unbelievable!!! 7-1
7-1
Round nine: Versus Maciej with Bant. 0-2
I sit down in front of a really friendly gentleman from Poland. I've played against his friend in the trial the day before but I can't remember what this guy is playing (or rather I don't know). He wins the dice roll and I mulligan to six. He then plays Savannah, Noble Hierarch. I take my turn and probe him seeing a beast of a hand: Force, Pierce, Brainstorm, Clique, Karakas, Stoneforge. My hand, in comparison is pretty embarassing and I never really get into the game as he gets his fourth mana source on the following turns and starts cliqueing me each turn. Game two is heartbreaking for me. I end up making 14 goblins on like turn 3. I know his hand which is jace, land, 2x plowshares. He plows 2 of my guys and draws and plays his land and slams jace. He also has a Scavenging Ooze in play at 2/2. He brainstorms and passes the turn. I get in for 12 and he blocks one and takes 11 dropping to 7. He takes the turn. Plays a fetchland and cracks it. Then he casts Vendilion Clique and targets himself to dig a card deeper. He bottoms Spell Pierce and draws and... does a huge fist pump... crap... can only mean one thing. He shows me engineered explosives, plays it and has the 2 mana activate it...
And that was that. No chance of top-8... oh well, good run!
7-2
Round ten: versus Samuel with Elves. 2-0
So as a consolation prize I get paired up against Elves in the last round. I win both games pretty convincingly but we are both sort of bummed out as Samuel also just lost his match at 7-1.
I've never played in anything of this size before and I was absolutely thrilled to have gone so well. I was also, all in all, pretty happy about my list. I know the Ad Nauseam / Empty the Warrens main vs side is an ongoing debate but people should try out both things and then choose what feels best for them. It's also, in part, a meta call. A note on the 2x Past in Flames. When not playing AN in the main you are suddenly free to add some higher CMC spells and I really feel that Past in Flames is the best card in the deck, at least in game 1. I also can't think of a time when I'm not happy to have Past in Flames in my hand when going off. It worked out pretty well.
I apologize for any typos and grammar issues. Thanks for reading!
Last edited by nevilshute; 06-22-2014 at 08:59 AM.
Your opponent in round nine was Maciej Pasek - he managed top 8 in GP Amsterdam;)
nevilshute, your tournament report looks great. i had the feeling that some guys did not adjust their sideboard against combo at all .(which is great of course)
so, congratulation again, very well done.
anomie-p: as lemnear said, young pyromancer is not an investment like empty the warrens, so if young pyromancer gets golgari charmed it's still 'ok'.
by the way,i played 5 rounds online today and went undefeated, tested young pyromancer a little more against other decks,namely rug delver and uw stoneblade.
pyromancer was great but i won the games anyway so i keep on testing.
currently i'm also testing a singleton burning wish in my senseis devining top slot but i'm not sure about that card - it just improves ad nauseam a little bit because you don't need led anymore but that's all theoretical.
- Team RUG-STAR Berlin -
Great job at BOM, guys!
Against miracle i boardet like this:
+ 3 young Pyromancer
+ 3 abrupt decay
- 1 chrome mox
- 2 cabal ritual
- 1 swamp
- 1 lotus Petal
- 1 ad nauseam
So i took out fast mana or say mana in general because you have time anyway to extend your manabase.
Ad nauseam gets a bit worse without chrome mox and the 4th petal so i cut one.
It felt like playing aggro control with a combo finish,so much fun when you see your opponent becomes desperate :D
- Team RUG-STAR Berlin -
Sawatrix, can you share your list with the pyromancer tech????
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