With the added bonus of decks siding IN graveyard hate against Cloudpost lolzOriginally Posted by Rock Lee
You still didnt explained why no needle or revoker >.<
There are two Phyrexian Revokers in the sideboard. But either way, I can already give Rock Lee's reason will likely boil down to "there's better things to do with the slots." Especially with Punishing Fire in the main: Why stall when you can kill?
My curiosity though has been peeked by the appearance of Karn Liberated in the sideboard. I'm curious because Rock waved off the idea of Karn Liberated awhile ago and would like to know what changed his (your) mind and how did Karn play out in the tournament.
"Let go your earthly tether. Enter the void, empty, and become wind."
Honestly I wanted an answer in the mirror that had applications in other matchups. I still believe this deck is one of the strongest around, and being bare naked to the mirror was terrifying.
I sided it in constantly, and it was amazing all day.
In which matches did you side it in, Rock?
Thanks.
My follow up on Karn Liberated, was its performance good enough to warrant main deck use?
"Let go your earthly tether. Enter the void, empty, and become wind."
He is my cover-all answer. Since the sb is mostly packed with combo hate, he comes in game 2 versus most matchups, also when I'm siding out eldrazi's I bring him in.
Last edited by Rock Lee; 05-09-2014 at 11:28 PM.
The build I'm using
// Lands
4 [SOM] Glimmerpost
4 [MR] Cloudpost
1 [WWK] Eye of Ugin
1 [WWK] Bojuka Bog
1 [LG] Karakas
3 [R] Tropical Island
4 [ZEN] Misty Rainforest
1 [IA] Glacial Chasm
1 [R] Volcanic Island
1 [UG] Island
3 [RLM] Grove of the Burnwillows
1 [TSP] Forest (4)
1 [R] Taiga
1 [TSP] Vesuva
// Creatures
4 [M12] Primeval Titan
1 [ROE] Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
1 [ROE] Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
// Spells
3 [CHK] Sensei's Divining Top
4 [UL] Crop Rotation
3 [5E] Brainstorm
3 [ZEN] Expedition Map
4 [CMD] Punishing Fire
4 [GP] Repeal
2 [US] Show and Tell
2 [FD] Engineered Explosives
2 [AQ] Candelabra of Tawnos
// Sideboard
SB: 4 [THS] Swan Song
SB: 4 [AL] Force of Will
SB: 2 [NPH] Karn Liberated
SB: 2 [ZEN] Mindbreak Trap
SB: 3 [MBS] Phyrexian Revoker
I have a friend who plays Goblins and another who plays Storm. Can't wait to try this deck out, at least for Goblins.
Storm MU sucks. Goblins can be pretty tough as well, depending on your version. You can't depend too much on crop rotation into glacial chasm due to wasteland.
Did anybody test Keranos, God of Storms in the RUG lists ?
It will never be a creature in the list but it does really good things against Death & taxes, Jund, BUG, Goblins... I am currently testing it in x2.Keranos, God of Storms - 3UR
Legendary Enchantment Creature - God
Indestructible
As long as your devotion to blue and red is less than seven, Keranos isn't a creature.
Reveal the first card you draw on each of your turns. Whenever you reveal a land card this way, draw a card. Whenever you reveal a nonland card this way, Keranos deals 3 damage to target creature or player.
6/5
I've recently tested Moment's Peace in my traditional UG build's sideboard, and i have to say it's working great for me, i'm happy to side it in against almost every fair deck i face. It helps you delaying the time you need to slam Glacial Chasm into play and in my opinion is a very good card against BUG and Jund, you can use it as a way to protect your more important cards in hand from a Liliana, without losing all its defensive potential. For those of you who haven't already sticked to the RUG version, i suggest giving it a spin
I'd actually be as interested to see how Kruphix turns out in the UG lists - converting mana to colorless that doesn't leave your pool in an indestructible non-creature form seems pretty strong.
Why?
"Let go your earthly tether. Enter the void, empty, and become wind."
Eye of Ugin tutoring without tapping lands, casting Eldrazi without tapping lands, and also, no hand size limit. So you could conceivably (in a 2 Koz, 2 Emmy, 1 Ula build) draw your deck. Plus, Kruphix dodges Thalia from the White aggro-prison decks in the same way that Keranos doe for the RUG lists.
It's cool and all, but at that game state you're already winning. Like, absolutely winning. I think those slots should be helping you win, or controlling the opponent, especially at high mana cost. Plus I don't see it generating any immediate advantage, which is a requirement for most legacy playable cards..
I haven't tested it, but I can see the appeal of speeding through a mana pocket or generating numerous Lightning Bolt, but I take issue with the CMC. Five is rubbing real close to encroaching on Primeval Titan's turf and, and even though we can produce mana en masse, playing too many expensive cards clogs our draws. Also, we can play Oracle of Mul Daya, which helps cover our bases on the front of generating advantage even better than Keranos.
I'm skeptical, but do let us know how testing goes because I am intrigued by the idea.
"Let go your earthly tether. Enter the void, empty, and become wind."
I would play Ral Zarek before Keranos, notice I'm playing neither.
Ral Zarek isn't comparable to Keranos. It can't be put on show and tell and it does nothing.
Both comparable in their lack of relevance in this archetype.
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