[Primer] Elves!

[Lemnear]

feel free to send one to me :)
i would like to put the foil frame of a regular one on the promo just using the promos picture

Then I get both (promo and Regular foil) and throw it into your letterbox in berlin. I'll PM you via FB, dood

[AznSeal]

I finished foiling this deck out in English. Now I'm trying to build elves in Foil S-Chinese. Now is anyone else bothered that the old name for elves was "地精" and cards like Heritage Druid, Nettle Sentinel, etc only come as that type but the new name for elves is "妖精" and Deathrite Shaman only comes as "妖精". This bothers me.

#AsianProblems

[yosoyez]

You people drunk? "Promo" is the definition of unpimp. It's also been proven that you will draw the regular set foil more often in critical situations. /r/theydidthemath

Wasn't that one of Newton's laws?

[Julian23]

You have just broken the first rule of therodynamics.

[yosoyez]

More like THEROSdynamics

[danyul]

LOL you guys are hilarious.

[lordofthepit]

More like THEROSdynamics

Ain't nothing dynamic about Theros. The whole block is a goddamn abomination, and Wizards is straight up disrespecting us the whole year.

[resum]

Ain't nothing dynamic about Theros. The whole block is a goddamn abomination, and Wizards is straight up disrespecting us the whole year.

Innistrad and Theros was two blocks in three years without Elves in them. Stop green discrimination WOTC!

[Chatto]

Lol, as a Goblin-enthusiast I think you guys got of light ^^ We're still waiting for that perfect two-drop/ Shatter/ Pump/ protection from everything/ Lord Goblin , ghehehe

I would rather say: WOTC stop discriminate Tribal decks ^^

[Lemnear]

Innistrad and Theros was two blocks in three years without Elves in them. Stop green discrimination WOTC!

Gabe, Dan and Julian sure remember that I predicted the problem during our Skype-Conference, that outside of core-sets we won't see Elves printed due to WotC moving away from classic tribes in their expansions after Lorwyn was basically an Elves, Goblins & Fairies block.

[Dice_Box]

We play a slow game here, cards rarely do anything bug to the deck since we are an eternal format. But if Wizards decide that they are going to print something as useful as Sage every year or so, I am not going to bitch.

[Lemnear]

We play a slow game here, cards rarely do anything bug to the deck since we are an eternal format. But if Wizards decide that they are going to print something as useful as Sage every year or so, I am not going to bitch.

Tbh the core with DRS, GSZ, Glimpse, NO, Cradle, Visionary, Symbiote and Quirion is already excellent and they did a huge job in freeing the concept from the summoning sickness dilemma which made me running concordant crossroads in the past, but unless they decide to give Symbiote an Elves subtype, I have a tough time to see any mayor changes coming which aren't the direct result of mass removal or an increase of combo-archetypes in total which could lead to MB discard or a midrange-focus.

I don't know if a deck can stay competitive within the era of powercreep if we continue to get new, playable cards in the current, low frequency without suffering the same fate as goblins.

[Dice_Box]

As a goblins player, I don't feel like we have that issue in Elves. See you can just ignore a goblins player and do your own thing. Aside for hitting your mana, there was no interaction and the deck was not the fastest clock. With Elves you have the chance too combo turn two and that has to be respected. You have interaction on the sense that there are no small amount of "Answer or die" spells in the deck too.

While I see what you mean, I think right now we are not under the same risk. If anything, I think we are ok since DnT seams to be getting all the toys and we play hell on their plans.

[Julian23]

unless they decide to give Symbiote an Elves subtype

aka infinite combo?

[Lemnear]

aka infinite combo?

Jip. Removal proof Symbiote + one green mana to draw a card under Glimpse

[Julian23]

Jip. Removal proof Symbiote + one green mana to draw a card under Glimpse

Not to forget: infinite mana.

[Lemnear]

Not to forget: infinite mana.

Possibly ;)

[trevaftw]

Just going to reaffirm that the games where I land Wren's Run Packmaster he has been a house.

[ThePrevailer]

I'm going to play the Game Day version because I currently have no foils in my elves deck. When I get around to acquiring one. Also thanks, Danyul for allowing me to move into the modern era of Elves! I played the Sage maindeck yesterday, and absolutely hated it the one time i drew it (t2 against RUG). For me I'll leave it in the board and keep my Edric and Scooze maindeck.

Also, for those of you who haven't tried it yet, Sylvan Library is Necropotence in this deck. It's sweet in grindy matchups, and probably good in the mirror, which I am now 0-8 against in games.

[ESG]

Also, for those of you who haven't tried it yet, Sylvan Library is Necropotence in this deck. It's sweet in grindy matchups, and probably good in the mirror, which I am now 0-8 against in games.

Sylvan Library is generally going to be too slow in the mirror. Typically, whomever is on the play wins Game 1 (barring the other player having a faster hand). Postboard games add to that the element of Turn 1 discard. It's a rather degenerate mirror, in my opinion. If I was going to build to gain an edge in the mirror, I would be playing Priest of Titania, which basically makes all your Green Sun's Zeniths into bazookas.