can someone explain how containment priest works with phasing? Thanks!
Short version: Cards with phasing never leave the battlefield, so they ignore the Priest.Originally Posted by Cire
Kinda like Dualcaster Mage against cruises and digs.
702.25d The phasing event doesn’t actually cause a permanent to change zones or control, even
though it’s treated as though it’s not on the battlefield and not under its controller’s control
while it’s phased out. Zone-change triggers don’t trigger when a permanent phases in or out.
Counters remain on a permanent while it’s phased out. Effects that check a phased-in
permanent’s history won’t treat the phasing event as having caused the permanent to leave or
enter the battlefield or its controller’s control.
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Containment Priest will take care of the creature cards, Phasing will take care of the token creatures. Answers to everything!
It's pretty sad when the decks are selling for less than MSRP.
what do you mean? SCG is selling the individual cards for less than MSRP?
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why cards are so expensive...hoarders
SCG has the Red and White ones for $45. The other three they're selling for MSRP.
I'm surprised at all the people suckered into the hype around Dualcaster Mage (sold out @ $15 pre-sale price on SCG)...the card is nothing special.
It's Legacy applications are extremely limited. Fork-effects have never been particularly good, and payingextra to get a 2/2 body simply isn't worth it outside of Magical Christmasland scenarios. Even in EDH it seems weak. I play mono-red and I don't see this card usurping Wild Richochet, Reiterate, or even Reverberate.
The card could have easily been a 2/1 for RR and been "fair"....but colors that aren't Awesome can't have good cards, so w/e.
In a Delver-heavy meta, I think you may be underestimating its power, especially with Treasure Cruise in the meta. And still, it has utility (although definitely less than Snapcaster).I'm surprised at all the people suckered into the hype around Dualcaster Mage (sold out @ $15 pre-sale price on SCG)...the card is nothing special.
It's Legacy applications are extremely limited. Fork-effects have never been particularly good, and paying
The card could have easily been a 2/1 for RR and been "fair"....but colors that aren't Awesome can't have good cards, so w/e.
Can't you buy these at Walmart and Target?
I am convinced that WotC is "dumbing" the game because of all the stupid posts they come across on MTG-related forums
You certainly can, assuming they actually stay in stock. When the Commander 2013 ones were out, I never ever saw the deck with True Name Nemesis. Hopefully that isn't the case this time around.
I can guarantee you it won't be the case. These decks are awful.
You're better off buying the singletons for legacy unless you really need stuff like wurmcoil engines. I canceled my preorder.
I want at least one. I don't mind the Wurm tokens too
I am convinced that WotC is "dumbing" the game because of all the stupid posts they come across on MTG-related forums
I don't think I'm overestimating it.
First, let's assume Fork-effects are a good call in the meta. Is Dualcaster Mage necessarily a good choice versus Reverberate or Fork? Is a Grey Ogre, with Flash, really worth an extra colorless mana? The extra mana makes it harder to play around Daze and makes it even harder to "double-up" on spells you control/play. Considering that most decks that run Mountains in Legacy don't always hit four land drops, this is pretty significant. One could easily find Dualcaster a dead card where Reverberate/Fork are live.
Secondly, let's challenge the previous assumption that Fork-effects are good in the meta. The burning question is why Fork a Treasure Cruise when you can just Pyroblast or REB it? Both situations result in the players maintaining card parity, the difference being that the REB/Pyroblast player maintains tempo (R to counter a spell that cost U) while the Dualcaster pays 1R in excess for a Grey Ogre. That doesn't sound like a good deal to me. Both REB and Pyroblast can answer a whole bunch of spells/threats extremely efficiently, in play and on the stack. Dualcaster can't boast the same. And while REB/Pyroblast are dead against certain decks, the same can be said about Dualcaster...what's he gonna do against Elves, Storm, Enchantress, Dredge, etc?
He's only getting a ton of hype because of the blatant reference to Snapcaster...except that Snapcaster was far more competitively costed and more versatile. A 2/1 Flash for 1U is decent, Recoup cost 1R, and Snappy weighed in at...1U. It's zero surprise he was competitive when he was pushed so hard.
After the hype dies down, all the people who pre-ordered him for $15+ will be throwing him in the same junk-rare piles as Notion Thief, another card based on Magical Christmasland scenarios of drawing tons of cards off opponents.
only place for dualcaster mage is when you use aether vial to get him out. So MAYBE Red & Taxes. If not there, I don't expect it to be played at all
It might also be a flex slot in red painter.
But i have been thinking about something like "red&taxes", but it overall seems weaker then DnT.
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Magus of the scroll
Eidolon of the great revel
Phrophetic flamespeaker
Revoker
Mindsparker
Dualcaster mage
Rabblemaster
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Something in these lines.
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Bobman, I am fascinated with this angle. I have tried it in so many ways. So.many.ways.
The potential seems so great. But I can't seem to get it right, and I have shelved the idea. If you can figure it out, I will applaud you.
Oh, and Dualcaster Mage is crappy.
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The thing is red doesnt have a versatile clock like stoneforge or an orb effect dork like thalia, and running r/w makes it hard to fit in wastes and ports.
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