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    Re: Fate Reforged Thread

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    I am not sure how do you expect to consistently reach 5 mana (4+1) in the generic UR shell that has a grand total of 16 lands.. And I won't play him only for using his lifelink ability.
    you too good for 1 mana helixes

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    Re: Fate Reforged Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by HdH_Cthulhu View Post
    But why swan with Soulfire Grandmaster? I dont see the connection... Its not like that you need buyback or lifelink once youu combo
    Because you wont to find the Chain to combo and Bolt Forking your Swans helps in that task. In case you have no Swans, burn their face or their YP.
    You simply go BoP, SGM, SoBA, Training Grounds, burn, buyback, draw much, burn a lot, frok the burn, draw a lot, gain life, Chain of Plasma, win. Easy.

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    Re: Fate Reforged Thread

    Brace yourselves for a combo that defies all known levels of sex appeal...

    Forbidden Orchard
    Swan Song
    Blasphemous Act

    Add in the new mono-colored Tamanoa, and you have a life total they can't touch. Add in Swans of Bryn Argoll, and you have a Braingeyser from hell.
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    tits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iamajellydonut View Post
    Brace yourselves for a combo that defies all known levels of sex appeal...

    Forbidden Orchard
    Swan Song
    Blasphemous Act

    Add in the new mono-colored Tamanoa, and you have a life total they can't touch. Add in Swans of Bryn Argoll, and you have a Braingeyser from hell.
    Welp, Jeskai Ascendancy just got a new Friend!

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    Quote Originally Posted by iamajellydonut View Post
    Brace yourselves for a combo that defies all known levels of sex appeal...

    Forbidden Orchard
    Swan Song
    Blasphemous Act

    Add in the new mono-colored Tamanoa, and you have a life total they can't touch. Add in Swans of Bryn Argoll, and you have a Braingeyser from hell.
    This sounds like the spiciest of meatballs.

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    Re: Fate Reforged Thread

    I'm kinda sad that manifest omits ETB effects of affected creatures.
    That devaluates the usability of stuff like the Whisperwood Elemental as plain draw engine in creature heavy decks imo.
    On the plus side: (ab)using Phyrexian Dreadnought is now easier than ever. Some people may love it more this way!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylphnir View Post
    I'm kinda sad that manifest omits ETB effects of affected creatures.
    That devaluates the usability of stuff like the Whisperwood Elemental as plain draw engine in creature heavy decks imo.
    On the plus side: (ab)using Phyrexian Dreadnought is now easier than ever. Some people may love it more this way!
    Morph cards are templated with "when ~ is turned face up" so you can manifest Fathom Seer for and so on.


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    Also, how does manifest interact with transform?

    711.5. A double-faced card enters the battlefield with its front face up unless a spell or ability puts it onto the battlefield “transformed,” in which case it enters the battlefield with its back face up.

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    I find this interesting, the card Illusionary Mask is on the Reserved list, they turned its ability, to cast face down creatures into a mechanic, although playing the real mask is still more efficient since you wouldn't have to pay the creature's full cost.

    Except, manifest sucks since you would need library manipulation for it to work like Mask.
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    Re: Fate Reforged Thread

    What happens when you manifest Delver of Secrets? I know the rules for Transform creatures says you cannot turn them face down (if an effect would turn a 2FC face down, nothing happens), but does it still try to enter the battlefield?
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    I think Tsumi just found the next MODO glitch.
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    Re: Fate Reforged Thread

    what happens if you manifest a delver?

    I suppose you have to youse the checkcards and use them as 2/2


    but manifest is just to unintuitive. flicker spells, unmorph spells, boardstate when you cast morphs etc etc. its cheaters heaven
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    Not sure how they will address this in MODO but you can cover the insect part with this overlay card and turn it face up as Delver of Secrets for .
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    Quote Originally Posted by death View Post
    Not sure how they will address this in MODO but you can cover the insect part with this overlay card and turn it face up as Delver of Secrets for .
    And here's some confirmation on that:
    http://tabakrules.tumblr.com/post/10...p-card-of-your

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    Re: Fate Reforged Thread

    Ahh, it's a bit of a pivot then from previous notions that dual faced cards don't actually have a 'face down', just a front face up or back face up. Or maybe it's a clever side-step since cards in one's library tend to (not) have certain characteristics.

    Front face down, back face up, that's the way we like to Manifest
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    Re: Fate Reforged Thread

    This game's turning into a real mess...
    eidt: into mess.

    I hope that there will be no Legacy-playable manifest things, especially not ones that positively interact with flip/transform cards. We definitely don't need more Chaos Orbs.

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    Re: Fate Reforged Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Bed Decks Palyer View Post
    This game's turning into a real mess...
    eidt: into mess.

    I hope that there will be no Legacy-playable manifest things, especially not ones that positively interact with flip/transform cards. We definitely don't need more Chaos Orbs.
    Pfffff ... WotC keeps fucking with Layouts since the Timespiral colorshifted cards and the future border and mess with the basic rules since the two-faced cards. Morph and the 2FC are a Nightmare to Co-exist anyways and now we have morph with cardadvantage
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bed Decks Palyer View Post
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    I hope that there will be no Legacy-playable manifest things, especially not ones that positively interact with flip/transform cards. We definitely don't need more Chaos Orbs.
    Jeskai Infiltrator looks very much like a card with that kind of potential - it's got a cc that's well matched to trinisphere and the potential to take over games.

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    Re: Fate Reforged Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by rufus View Post
    Jeskai Infiltrator looks very much like a card with that kind of potential - it's got a cc that's well matched to trinisphere and the potential to take over games.
    Isn't it kind of a shitty Goblin Lackey though? Like, it has Awesome and all, but... just being able to make a 2/2 every other turn or so (you have to pay its "not Morph cost" to reflip it) while operating under 3Sphere seems like a tough row to hoe. Even for Blue.

    Like I'd almost rather see Goblins attempt the prison route, than see what happens with Jeskai Infiltrator in the same position. Meh I dunno.
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    Just when I thought they're done printing annoying creatures like Ninja of the Deep Hours.

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    Re: Fate Reforged Thread

    How is this card good? 2U to deal 2 unblockable damage and then get two vanilla 2/2's one of which can, for 3 mana, make another 2/2 if unblocked, and the other could, with library manipulation, be a 12/12 for 1. Seems like a lot of work.

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