View Poll Results: Most bannable card in Legacy? (not that they will touch it)

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  • Brainstorm

    16 8.33%
  • Force of Will

    4 2.08%
  • Lion's Eye Diamond

    35 18.23%
  • Counterbalance

    34 17.71%
  • Sensei's Divining Top

    103 53.65%
  • Tarmogoyf

    46 23.96%
  • Phyrexian Dreadnaught

    2 1.04%
  • Goblin Lackey

    4 2.08%
  • Standstill

    6 3.13%
  • Natural Order

    8 4.17%
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    G2/G3 doesn't feel that bad - G1 is pretty much just the stuff of nightmares where they have everything ever that makes life hell for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zombie View Post
    G2/G3 doesn't feel that bad - G1 is pretty much just the stuff of nightmares where they have everything ever that makes life hell for you.
    I agree, grinding out G2/G3 isn't as hard as it seems. I'm 3-0 in my last miracles matchups. You just have to learn to go for it G1 and only keep 3 power on the board g2/g3. Also, elves was back in force at this open!

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Admiral_Arzar View Post
    The matchup is extraordinarily unfavorable for Elves - I don't think I ever won a match against Miracles during my time playing it. Better Elves players will have better results, but regardless, it's never a deck I would take in a local meta with multiple Miracles players.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    So, I think there is an announcement soon. The format is still blue but it's hard to determine what the best deck is, no deck architype is dominating and the legacy is a lot more fun than it was 3 months ago. There is definitely some largely unexplored space around monestary mentor and tasigur. I also see a couple of cards in the new set that have a shot at seeing legacy play.

    I don't see any changes happening.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    March 23th 2015, to be precise... I believe you are right, testing32: no big changes, unless they get really drunk the night before and decide to go all crazy...

    Which would be really, really funny, but not that realistic... Really funny, though
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    It has been awfully quiet here. Can i conclude that every one is happy with the current meta?
    They unbanned WGD last round, think maybe something else is coming of?
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    No, I don't. Just hoping Wizards keeps printing original CA-spells outside of blue in liue of LftL, Confidant, Library. Preferably something that BS decks can't splash. Then I can keep playing with my beloved Brainstorms, in peace.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobmans View Post
    It has been awfully quiet here. Can i conclude that every one is happy with the current meta?
    They unbanned WGD last round, think maybe something else is coming of?
    I'd love to see Earthcraft or Survival come off, but that's unlikely. The meta still hasn't really settled from the Treasure Cruise banning, so I'm betting on no changes.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    It would be awesome if they decided that Earthcraft would be safe to come off the banlist. I don't think it is that broken anymore (Grip, decay, CB,...) but I guess we can still keep dreaming :)

    Edit: BTM was just faster than me :)

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    I'm sure things can come off. I just doubt it would happen so soon after a "major" (at least for legacy) meta changing BnR announcement. That said I want some Vise
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    I doubt anything is going to be unbanned until they can do another of their stupid "prisoner exchange"-bans/unbans after printing something utterly stupid.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Agreed. If anything will change it will be in Modern not Legacy.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Barook View Post
    I doubt anything is going to be unbanned until they can do another of their stupid "prisoner exchange"-bans/unbans after printing something utterly stupid.
    Well they did surprise me with unbanning WGD and not something like Mind Twist, Black Vise or Earthcraft as the most obvious choices. They may yet suprise us again... or not. But i do not believe it is a "give-take" policy. Treasure Cruise was an obvious brainfart. The community is hoping for some unbannings for some time now. Hopefully they come to realize that people actually like casting (near) broken spellchains into or not into creatures as a way of winning. That instead of what they try to achieve with modern formats (not just Modern) by combat (or controlling that).
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobmans View Post
    Well they did surprise me with unbanning WGD and not something like Mind Twist, Black Vise or Earthcraft as the most obvious choices. They may yet suprise us again... or not. But i do not believe it is a "give-take" policy. Treasure Cruise was an obvious brainfart. The community is hoping for some unbannings for some time now. Hopefully they come to realize that people actually like casting (near) broken spellchains into or not into creatures as a way of winning. That instead of what they try to achieve with modern formats (not just Modern) by combat (or controlling that).
    I think that Dragon was chosen because it had a small chance of working as competitive deck while being extremely unlikely to be problematic. Mind Twist is definitely too weak without Drain to go into any deck, and Vise is likely in the same camp. Survival and Earthcraft are likely safe, but could actually spawn serious decks, and that's probably what they're scared of.

    As for "prisoner exchange" bannings/unbannings, I think that the meta hasn't settled into an equilibrium in such a long time that it hasn't been clear how to approach unbannings. This might change soon as the BUG Delver vs. Miracles meta we had before Cruise seems to be coming back, and while I think that matchup is a ton of fun to play, the meta that surrounds it is getting pretty stale and is likely to get staler as both of those decks start to build more to face each other and their mirror matches.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    isn't the next announcement suppose to be right now?

    Next B&R Announcement: March 23, 2015


    what time does wizards update their articles and rollover to march 23'rds articles?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barook View Post
    It is starting to really really ANGER me that Black Vise and Mind Twist are still banned, unbelievable joke.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Quizzlemanizzle View Post
    It is starting to really really ANGER me that Black Vise and Mind Twist are still banned, unbelievable joke.
    They aren't going to release the prisoners until they have to arrest someone.
    It is better to ask and look stupid then keep your mouth shut and remain so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quizzlemanizzle View Post
    It is starting to really really ANGER me that Black Vise and Mind Twist are still banned, unbelievable joke.
    I'm more frustrated about the lack of unbannings on Ancestral Vision, Bloodbraid Elf, and Sword of the Meek in Modern.

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