[Deck] 12 Post

[civet five]

A.) It has a very rough combo matchup. In Legacy, combo is more heavily represented than in Modern, so this style of deck has to deal with combo that usually can only be interacted with on the stack.

B.) Even by Legacy standards this deck is very decision-intensive and hard to pilot. There are more decisions within each turn for this deck's pilot than probably any other deck in Legacy (even Miracles).

To add my own clarification for B, its often hard to be proactive with this deck, and often the correct thing to do is sit back and wait. As a Lands player you should have some familiarity with using Glacial Chasm correctly, but now imagine being handicapped by not having Loam shenanigans to back you up on that. Being dumb with Chasm has easily been the most consistent way I punt games.

[mykatdied]

uf the dude didn't want to move not even for 33 on an order of 433 ahaha guess i'm not geting the second candelabra right now as i won't buy anything without a discount besides i have found another seller with many of the sideboard cards and other maybe cards along with the mystis i'm missing and SDT.

What i'm asking is what's the deal with trinket mage? do we "budget" guys running only 1 candle "have" to play it, is it worth the slot or two? trinket can bring us SDT i get that (don't see how would that even matter in a list running 4 SDT and 4 ancient stirrings??). Is it good enough to keep in the MB?

It can get a top, yes. It also grabs any one of expedition map, candelabra, engineered explosives, pithing needle. So it has many reasons to be there as an additional way to find any of those.

[MechTactical]

It can get a top, yes. It also grabs any one of expedition map, candelabra, engineered explosives, pithing needle. So it has many reasons to be there as an additional way to find any of those.

and a blocker obviously right? well i guess i'll have to run that card.
i'm still light on blue staples.... i bought the cheaper blue stuff like: Standstill, Submerge, Stifle, Mindbreak Trap, Glen Elendra Archmage, Venser, Shaper Savant.

Am i missing something in the budget blue that's worth having near by?

[Hopo]

and a blocker obviously right? well i guess i'll have to run that card.
i'm still light on blue staples.... i bought the cheaper blue stuff like: Standstill, Submerge, Stifle, Mindbreak Trap, Glen Elendra Archmage, Venser, Shaper Savant.

Am i missing something in the budget blue that's worth having near by?

The reason to play blue: Repeal.

[MechTactical]

jesus what's up with cavren of souls? nobody seems to have this card and it's the only card i'm missing besides FOW and S&T. damn it was the first i wanted to get it really seems a must have in the deck at least as a 1of...

[MGB]

jesus what's up with cavren of souls? nobody seems to have this card and it's the only card i'm missing besides FOW and S&T. damn it was the first i wanted to get it really seems a must have in the deck at least as a 1of...

Amulet Bloom, Goblins, and Elves all happened in Modern. It would have been good to pick these up a year ago when they were hovering around $12 a piece.

[Morden]

The reason to play blue: Repeal.

oh, you can't understand how much I miss this in GW version..... easy control of the game in early turn, letting you enough time to finish with eldrazi/titan. and S&T, easy fat guy on turn 3. and BEB, price of progress is game for oppononent 80% of time (yes, I can crop into chasm, but burn keeps every shot in hand until i cannot pay chasm)....

[TheBoozeCube]

TheBoozeCube, can you show us your current build? Without awakening

What changes did you make and why? What do you think about the place of monoG post in current metagame?

http://www.starcitygames.com/article...rainstorm.html
I still haven't figured out where Awakening goes.

Monogreen (or at least my version, not the GSZ version) is getting a bit worse with the rise of OmniTell, which is one of the worst matchups. However, it's better than UG against Elves, which seems poised for a massive resurgence with that BG drain elf from Origins.



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[TheBoozeCube]

Long time lurker here. I play RG Lands right now and love it. But I have played Tron in Modern forever, and this looks like Tron with big boy pants. What is the main thing holding this deck back from frequent top 8 appearances? I know the power level is there, but why do I not see this deck, basically ever, on streams?

In paper, the cost/availability of Candelabras and Tabernacle is also a major limiting factor. In pure numbers, it's no more expensive than Delver. But instead of being spread out over staples like duals, Wastelands, and Goyfs, your money is concentrated in very narrow hard-to-find cards. Getting in is a significant commitment, since the only other deck you can use $1000+ worth of Candelabras in is High Tide.


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[mykatdied]

http://www.starcitygames.com/article...rainstorm.html
I still haven't figured out where Awakening goes.

Monogreen (or at least my version, not the GSZ version) is getting a bit worse with the rise of OmniTell, which is one of the worst matchups. However, it's better than UG against Elves, which seems poised for a massive resurgence with that BG drain elf from Origins.



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Probably in place of ancient stirrings, since it can dig deeper and puts the lands you find into play?

[TheBoozeCube]

Probably in place of ancient stirrings, since it can dig deeper and puts the lands you find into play?

Ancient Stirrings is always a 4x. It's one of the most important cards in the deck. I would cut Sensei's Divining Top first.


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[MechTactical]

In paper, the cost/availability of Candelabras and Tabernacle is also a major limiting factor. In pure numbers, it's no more expensive than Delver. But instead of being spread out over staples like duals, Wastelands, and Goyfs, your money is concentrated in very narrow hard-to-find cards. Getting in is a significant commitment, since the only other deck you can use $1000+ worth of Candelabras in is High Tide.


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Exactly, do your bank account a favor and don’t play this deck. just a few pages back I was writing that I will take it slow and won’t be spending much on this. Now look at me I don’t even want to calculate how much I spent on this deck and will be running only 1 candelabra. Despite this massive spending I’m still missing some of the key cards.
If I don’t report back I was probably murdered by my girlfriend as she still doesn’t know about this awesome new deck

Okay enough nonsense let’s talk business. Which list would you recommend I start with? As you know I’m missing FOW, S&T, tabernacle and cavern of souls. I probably have all other cards that were popping up in this forum including the GW version.

Which versions runs best without the cards I’m missing?
Which of the missing cards would you recommend I buy first – S&T?

Many thanks.

[Morden]

Which of the missing cards would you recommend I buy first – S&T?

Many thanks.

I would wait the banlist of July for S&T....I don't think they will ban S&T, but maybe...... I surely hope this!

[Rock Lee]

Incidentally, new mulligan rule is huge for 12post.

[drude1]

I would wait the banlist of July for S&T....I don't think they will ban S&T, but maybe...... I surely hope this!

They usually ban enablers. I would think that Dig Through Time will get the ax way before Show and Tell. Dig Through Time has found it's way into every blue deck now and is just so pervasive.

[TheBoozeCube]

Exactly, do your bank account a favor and don’t play this deck. just a few pages back I was writing that I will take it slow and won’t be spending much on this. Now look at me I don’t even want to calculate how much I spent on this deck and will be running only 1 candelabra. Despite this massive spending I’m still missing some of the key cards.
If I don’t report back I was probably murdered by my girlfriend as she still doesn’t know about this awesome new deck

Okay enough nonsense let’s talk business. Which list would you recommend I start with? As you know I’m missing FOW, S&T, tabernacle and cavern of souls. I probably have all other cards that were popping up in this forum including the GW version.

Which versions runs best without the cards I’m missing?
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I was fortunate and picked up 3 of my Candelabras at <$50 before they spiked. :D But I've been playing this deck a long time.

Maybe a GSZ build? That seems like it would pack the most punch with what you have.


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[Loxmatii]

Made day 2 at gp Lille with mono_G post
X-1-1
Lost against grixis delver, cause didnt see lands
1-1 with DNT. Didnt have time to finish

i will try my best for day 2 (-:

[mykatdied]

Made day 2 at gp Lille with mono_G post
X-1-1
Lost against grixis delver, cause didnt see lands
1-1 with DNT. Didnt have time to finish

i will try my best for day 2 (-:

Awesome job so far! Good luck!

[mykatdied]

Ancient Stirrings is always a 4x. It's one of the most important cards in the deck. I would cut Sensei's Divining Top first.


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I absolutely disagree. Top is far more ideal to have as it can dig you to lands and threats. Stirrings is a 1 time effect that usually finds lands. If you want to run the new card to get the ramp and put more lands into play, it should replace stirrings. Maybe explore if not stirrings.

[Rock Lee]

Made day 2 at gp Lille with mono_G post
X-1-1
Lost against grixis delver, cause didnt see lands
1-1 with DNT. Didnt have time to finish

i will try my best for day 2 (-:

Congrats!