Yeah, the beat j can come up with is profane command or drain life/consume spirit.Originally Posted by tilzinger
"eggs... why'd it have to be eggs"
What Bobmans hinted at here is the crux of my obsession with this deck and something you won't often find with other archetypes: liberating, honest-to-fuck freewill to play whatever you want and have fun doing it. The real treat is musing about card X or card Y and figuring out a way to essentially prank opponents into losing the game. Who else can slam Thragtusk in legacy and ride that hog to victory? I'll guarantee the first person to suggest 'Tusk in this deck was giggled at. The natural response to an eccentric idea is skepticism. IMO, this deck is flexible enough to accommodate varying tastes/humors while being clever enough to take down top tier decks. While I agree that this isn't a brass-tacks-Delver-league forum, there's something to be gained from veteran players (lol) and noobs alike simply because this deck is so approachable.
The NicFit primer might be 40% noise, 30% speculation, 20% brewing and 10% tournament results, but I'm always happy to return and read about the silly(worthwhile) shit other players are doing.
On Exsanguinate: assuming you cast Prime Titan with 6 lands in play then fetch Urborg and Coffers, you can untap next turn and cast Exsanguinate for 11. This certainly is a cute prospect, but I wouldn't bother daydreaming about it unless you're playing Burning Wish. It would be rather tits to see it happen though.
If you were just trolling, ya got me.
Lavafrogg mentioned Profane Command, has anyone actually tried this ? The card is fucking nutso, especially when we're casting for 5+
Profane command would work as a build your own kill/reanimate spell for much of the game and would double as the burn/alpha-strike win condition with an coffers/urborg in play. I really wish the last mode was anything better.
If you read the command article wizards did a few years ago the last mode was supposed to be "gain x life" which would be perfect but they felt it was too strong for standard...
"eggs... why'd it have to be eggs"
I've been lurking this thread quite a while was interested in getting into Legacy and building GBw Nic Fit. I love the concept behind the deck. It's kind of frustrating because I have a few friends who play a lot of Legacy that just tell me the deck is bad and "oh X isn't playable in Legacy." Good to know other people run into this, I guess.
You get all sorts of comments on playing NicFit during a tournament. One time this guy was flaming me for playing Siege Rhino in Legacy. Haha. Always love to see the faces when i jam my full japanese deck filled with readers on the board. One gotta to know the format, some don't even dare to ask what cards do when you jam it next to FBB signed Duals.
Kagu-Tsuchi カグツチ (Jund NicFit)
Rhino's Abbondanza (Junk NicFit)
4c Aggro Loam
I have the Punishing Fire version built and that thing is just stupid fun.
Just to counter a little of the scoffing the deck gets, I had an interesting scenario last night. I swung by the local shop for some FNM, and in between rounds I was handing out legacy decks for people to try out. I gave one guy NicFit and I played DnT. After a 15 minute game of back and forth, he final took control of the game. He commented one time while Topping that "This deck has so many great cards in it!"
After he won the game swinging with a recurring Thragtusk and Thrun, one of the spectators said "I never thought I'd see a Legacy game being won by Thrun and Swagtusk. That was awesome!"
Don't let the nay sayers bring you down. Indulge your inner NicFit.
I'm saying even without Coffers/Borg the card could do work. Recurring a fallen Rhino while giving some stupid creature -4/-4 could be gamebreaking. In terms of card value, this might be an overlooked gem. It's an amazing late game topdeck, it's removal, recursion, even a win condition. Hmmmmmmm
With ProsBloom? I can dig it.
Current Build: Punishing Rhinos http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/s...l=1#post927726
I always have a flex spot in the wishboard. I am curious if there will be moments to wish for this thing.
I played two prerelease sealed tournaments these days and - although i dont compare limited with legacy - i came to appreciate the power of the new nissa. I will try her in scapefit and report my findings.
@Random-card-discussions: The deckbuilding space is wide open. There is no dominant nicfit list and the lists in this thread show big variances. I really like that - and the fact that most of the serious suggestions are properly discussed.
Early game it would be great to bring back an explorer, death rite shaman or scavenging ooze that has met its demise, late game it could be witnessed back to dome the opponent/recur a fattie/kill anything, especially with cabal coffers.
My problem has been that the two towers are graveyard dependent and I wanted prime time to be able to give value without using the yard.
Urborg/coffers has been the best idea so far.
"eggs... why'd it have to be eggs"
Wasn't trolling, just came to mind as something to do next turn with excess mana. Swing with Titan and then send 6-10 dmg to face. Seemed good. Though the Profane Command would be better, just forgot about it.
I played a Japanese siege rhino in a legacy tournament in Japan against a Japanese Esper Blade opponent. Towards the end of game 3 he chump blocked my rhino with a spirit token while at 3 life. That didn't quite go down how he wanted it too... XD
Regarding primetime lands in GBw, you can fetch vault of the archangel to turn your trampling giant INTO an exanguinate. But the usual thing is to get the two towers, volraths stronghold and phyrexian tower so you can start recurring everything assuming there isn't a RIP in play
I played Vault in my Knight build in the TC era since there were so many aggro bolt decks. It's hard for them to beat huge knights or Rhinos with lifelink. The deathtouch can also be relevant.
The thing I don't like about Vault is the narrow application. It taps for colorless and does little else without a creature in play, putting it arguably in the same realm as Phyrexian Tower (requires creature to be useful). Cabal Coffers also runs into this problem, being pretty useless without its friend Urborg. If I were to brew something up using Profane Command, Coffers and 'Borg, it would probably be straight GB to take advantage of Coffers. I could easily see Caleb Durward's list supporting that.
edit: during my musings, I remembered the card Porphyry Nodes (or Drop of Honey if you prefer). I could see this monster doing serious work against DnT, Delver, SFM decks, etc
So, putting this out there just in case: no B&R updates :) Keep toppin' away friends!
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles...ent-2015-07-13
Played a small casual 11 players legacy tournament an hour drive from my city. Got second with a bad topdeck mode in TOP4 Finals in game 3 against UG Infect. I've played a random Abzan list I've put up 10 minutes before going to the event. Decks to beat were: MonoG Elves, 2x Merfolks, WUR Countertop, Dredge, Belcher&Empty the Warrens, MonoW Quest, Deadguy Ale, Rogue WUBG tempo deck (Maverick&BUG Nic Fit mashup), etc...very strang metagame.
Round 01 - Bye
Got a free 50 minutes to explore metagame and to mentally prepare for the next three rounds.
Round 02 - Dredge 2:0
Won first game with Siege Rhinos and topdecking GSZ for Scooze. He didn't dredged a single Bridge or Narcomoeba. Game 2 I've sided in my gravehate. He went first. Careful Study discarded 2x Gravetrolls. Which were then Extracted for good.
Round 03 - Belcher&Empty the Warrens
This is the most fustrating deck to play against. Match can be quite fustrating if he wins on turn 1. Dice rolling won me first game. Went first, Therapy hit Charbelcher, and then Siege Rhino and Dromoka got me first game. Sided in half of my sideboard to try to beat him G2. Of course, we went first and went off with combo on T1. Let's go G3 game loss! G3 he kept a slow hand. I've managed to stall the game, until he played Charbelcher and combo off. For 5 damage. Haha! Then I prayed for a topdeck GSZ. It happened. Gaddock came in and it was three wins. Top4 was secured!
Round 04 - UG Infect
We splited for a draw to be first on the standings.
Top4 Round 01 Merfolk
G1 was won because of the two Deeds that cleared the board for Rhinos to swing or the win. Sided in only one EPlague. Never drew it at all. G2 he went for aggro and swung with lords, TNN's and Mutavaults. G3 was a long one. After many turns and exchanging cards, all I had left were basics and dual lands. No cards in hand and no creatures. His board had 3-4 creatures. Topdeck saved my day. Deed cleared the board and GSZ went for Dromoka which killed him in few turns. Can't remember, but I think G1 I was at one life and killed him afterwards. Haha!
Top4 Round 02 UG Infect
G1 was lost because of Inkmoths which flooded the board and I didn't have my legends to protect me. G2 I've sided in KGrip, 2x Melira and PNeedle. Won with Siege Rhinos and Dromoka. G3 was a very long one. Almost 30+ minutes. I I drew a GSZ a turn before, Sigarda and Dromoka could stall the board for my removals.
Cards of the day were definitely Dromoka, Siege Rhinos and Anafenza. I've felt like a standard player that tournament. Haha! :D Secondd place, for a 3 dolars entry fee, got me a mint RTR Overgrown Tomb, and two ''very bad pulls'' Dragons of Tarkir boosters.
I was thinking of adding in a Wilt-Leaf Liege and a Night of Soul's Betrayal. Is it a good idea, and what should I kick out of the maindeck?
This is the list:
Sideboard:
1x Containment Priest
2x Melira, Sylvok Outcast
1x Obstinate Baloth
1x Gaddock Teeg
1x Dryad Militant
1x Leyline of Sanctity
1x Surgical Extraction
1x Extirpate
1x Duress
1x Thoughtseize
1x Engineered Plague
1x Leyline of The Void
1x Krisan Grip
1x Pithing Needle
Mainboard:
Lands
3x Forest
2x Swamp
2x Plains
2x Bayou
2x Scrubland
1x Savannah
4x Verdant Catacombs
2x Windswept Heath
1x Marsh Flats
1x Phyrexian Tower
1x Karakas
1x Volrath's Stronghold
1x Wasteland
Creatures
4x Veteran Explorer
1x Deathrite Shaman
1x Scavenging Ooze
1x Eternal Witness
1x Courser Of Kruphix
1x Thragtusk
1x Anafenza, the Foremost
2x Siege Rhino
1x Sigarda, Host of Herons
1x Dragonlord Dromoka
Spells
4x Cabal Therapy
3x Path to Exile
3x Abrupt Decay
1x Maelstrom Pulse
4x Pernicious Deed
3x Sensei's Divining Top
4x Green Sun's Zenith
1x Recurring Nightmare
1x Garruk Relentless
How have you found Anafenza to perform? How often does it function as more than a beater?
I'm going to keep tinkering with this Night's Whisper / Living Wish Thune shell I've been working on. I actually think that Whisper+Wish might be strong enough to actually just be -better- than Top (in exactly that shell).
I don't promise much activity moving forward, but I'll try to drift through every once in a while. The complete lack of bans / unbans yesterday really demoralized me. I don't know what fantasy world the WotC staff who makes these decisions is living in, but it'd sure be nice to visit there. Must be nice this time of year.
I'll be at Eternal Weekend at the end of August, but at this point I'm planning on running 2x vintage (Trial on Saturday and main event on Sunday) instead of 1x Legacy / 1x Vintage.
I put her in the maindeck totally random while going through my collection. And then, I thought about another mainboard hate on creature graveyard based decks that are often there in that metagame along with DRS and SCooze. I personally don't like Kitchen Finks very much at GSZ for three and wanted to se how can she perform in a legacy meta. In a few matches, she was really good pumping out Siege Rhinos, Veterans and so on, and then making opponents block her with everything they've got to kill her, often trading a 2-3 for 1. Zenithable, can return her with Karakas, out of the bolt range and a nice tempo beater. Very good card. But, she is, for now, my replacement for Wilt-Leaf Liege.
I'm thinking of picking up this deck again. It's been awhile since I played it though. anyone playing a BUG version with Dig through Times? This seemslike a Deck that could support the card nicely as a two of and with brainstorm and nights whisper could fuel it?
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