Abrupt Decay / ForceOriginally Posted by Deckerator
Generally, by countering the Chalice, or bringing in Abrupt Decay from the board, since Chalice can't counter it and the decks that play Chalice often aren't putting enough pressure on you to force a "kill the Chalice and go off right now or you lose" moment.
On the topic of Inkwell Leviathan: thinking of running one in place of Grave Titan. There seems to be a bit less Liliana running around, and Inkwell is stronger to have in some of the problem matchups like D&T.
Tidespout Tyrant is our only answer to problem lands beyond Pithing Needle or maybe Wipe Away. Abrupt Decay can answer pretty much anything else that troubles us, Jace being the top exception. But the moment they throw down a Karakas or Maze of Ith or Glacial Chasm, our main out is Tidespout.
What do you guys think about Jace, Vryn's Prodigy in Reanimator?
The looter ability is solid as both a draw spell and a discard outlet for your creature, basically a recurring Hapless Researcher/more powerful Merfolk Looter. It's very easy to flip and the -3 ability is exactly the effect this deck needs to have a mid-late game if the early game falls apart.
VS
Oh Boy:
Con:
1.) For 1U you can get a full reanimation done! Silverbullet and all ready to go!
2.) He is just standing arount for 1 round, as one of the fastest combodecks we dont need that
3.) He dies to nearly all kind of removal spells. Decay, Bolt, Swords,.....
4.) After you get the snapping done he mostly stands around and also dies to everything thats standing around, Chances are that you still dont have your reanimaton done by then...
Pro
1.) Can be pitched into force!
2.) Looting even with Thalia and the 4 Wingmanes on the board
3.) Block AND Loot
4.) Snapping can get you a second reanimation done OR protect things by enabeling a counter
-> If you like hapless researcher you might like jace, because the nearly do the same thing.
I'm gonna say that new Jace is significantly worse than hapless researcher. Hapless researcher has none of the cons and all but one of the pros (item 4). The big issue with Jace is he can't loot until turn 3, if you play him turn 2. Where hapless and all of our other discard spells can be used turn 1, sometimes enabling a turn 1 reanimation if we run lotus petal. Jace could delay a combo by up to 2 turns which can be huge, especially with Omni-tell being such a big deck right now.
Do you guys ever keep hands that are:
Force, daze, land, fetch, careful study, careful study, brainstorm?
Do you tend to mull into half of a combo piece or is a hand like above just safe against whatever you might be playing against? If the brainstorm was a thoughtseize does that change things? How often will any of you keep a blind careful study hoping to hit pieces?
Careful Study in hand with creature hoping to hit a reanimation effect blind is our best bet. Careful Study with reanimation effect in hand hoping to hit a creature is second best, we tend to run fewer creatures then reanimates. Trying to hit both wouldn't be my first plan. The brainstorm saves it though, being able to Brainstorm and then shuffle away the extra Studies once I found a creature, or both if I found an Entomb is key. I don't run Thoughtseize in the main, but if I did against an unknown opponent, the Thoughtseize hand wouldn't cut it. Too slow and we can't afford to attempt a tempo game plan with our counters, we're saving that to protect the business.
I'm assuming you mean blind game one:
I'd keep that hand with a brainstorm, not with a thoughtseize. With that hand, you get to look at 5 or 6 more cards before you even have to consider casting careful study, and almost every card you can hit is excellent. If the brainstorm was a thoughtseize your hand is disruptive, but doing little else, which isn't exactly where I'd like to be game one.
Thank you for your tournament report and sideboard options Jake. I am pretty sure I'll be going to GP Seattle in November and I read this entire thread in preparation for said tournament. I too am worried about the D&T match up. I currently run 1 Pithing Needle in fear of Karakas. I run another 2 in the sideboard.
My current Sideboard 15:
1 Echoing Truth
1 Aetherling
1 Duress
4 Thoughtseize
2 Massacre
3 Abrupt Decay
1 Ashen Rider
2 Pithing Needle
Main Deck:
Creatures 8:
1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
1 Iona, Shield of Emeria
1 Tidespout Tyrant
1 Grave Titan
4 Griselbrand
Instants 16:
4 Brainstorm
4 Daze
4 Force of Will
4 Entomb
Sorcery 16:
2 Ponder
2 Show and Tell
4 Careful Study
4 Reanimate
4 Exhume
Artifacts 5:
1 Pithing Needle
4 Lotus Petal
Land 15:
2 Flooded Strand
4 Polluted Delta
1 Bloodstained Mire
4 Underground Sea
1 Tropical Island
1 Bayou
1 Island
1 Swamp
I need your help tuning my deck with regards to the GP Seattle expected/anticipated meta game. Any tips to help the D&T match would help as well.
David
I have a related question about Karakas. Some say Tidespout Tyrant is an answer, but I don't get it. Since we can only reanimate at sorcery speed, the opponent can always just replay the Karakas on their next turn and bounce whatever we reanimated. Right?
It is very important to get non-legendary threat/s into play as to get around Karakas. Tidespout Tyrant being non-legendary and a large flyer is almost perfect for the job. Pithing Needle is a more permanent answer to Karakas
You might consider cutting 1 Grisel for another Silverbullet here. I would advice you to Sire of insanity (since you play 4 petal) or Inkwell Leviathan ( Best for D&T)
I had liked 4 Griselbrand because of the 2 Show and Tell main. I have since moved Sire of Insanity, Inwell Leviathan and Surgical Extraction to my Sideboard and cut Aetherling, Ashen Rider and Echoing Truth (not sure about cutting Echoing Truth, I kinda expect alot of Leyline of the Void in Seattle). Still very early in testing but the main deck is still intact (for now).
having played the DnT matchup quite a bit, I recommend trying out archetype of endurance. It's harder for them to beat than Inkwell in my experience, since a hexproof elesh or GB is just about unbeatable for them.
For the lists not running show and tell, is the plan to just wait for a chance to decay gy hate and then go off?
In these two match-ups I don't understand siding out the counter spells. I understand your point about siding them out in match-ups vs other blue decks. But in this scenario I would think we can be the better blue deck.
Curious why you expect leyline of the void in Seattle?
Seattle is my local and I play graveyard decks almost exclusively. I rarely see leyline. Cage has been much more common as of late.
No love for Sire of Insanity? :(
He proves to me frequently how insane it can be.
I'm currently running:
4 Grisel
1 Elesh
1 Iona
1 Titan
1 Sire
And one Ashen Rider and one Keranos in the sideboard :)
i could never go without my boy tidespout
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