[BFZ]Battle for Zendikar spoilers thread

[Megadeus]

I think the land is solid. Slightly too expensive to activate though probably. MAYBE 12 Post wants it as a rotation target? Otherwise there's not a UG deck in the format that wants this. Doubtful this pushes Bant to anyy new heights

[Dice_Box]

Waiting with interest for the Rock coloured land. If it's good, it's going to make some impact.

[Barook]

Waiting with interest for the Rock coloured land. If it's good, it's going to make some impact.

My guesses for the manlands:

BG: Deathtouch
BW: Lifelink
WR: Double Strike
UR: no idea - does UR even share a combat mechanic outside of Prowess?

[bruizar]

So, next set will probably feature 10 enemy man land expeditions...

[joven]

UR: no idea - does UR even share a combat mechanic outside of Prowess?

Well, you say it

UR: Prowess

or maybe something like Izzet Keyrune (Looting).

[joven]

So, next set will probably feature 10 enemy man land expeditions...

... plus the enemy-colored new "double-check-lands".
At least I hope they don't do half-cycles anymore.

[Pilhas]

So, next set will probably feature 10 enemy man land expeditions...

That's my guess, 20 cards - 10 manlands, 5 slow/tango/lag/whatever lands , 5 planeswalkers?!

[Dice_Box]

Those new lands of theirs are a gift to EDH players, they will do a full cycle I bet. No point to print only half of those new lands as $100 bills.

[Aggro_zombies]

Those new lands of theirs are a gift to EDH players, they will do a full cycle I bet. No point to print only half of those new lands as $100 bills.

Not a lot of budget EDH players have fetchlands, so there's not much benefit to running the new - tangolands? double-plus-checklands? Bad Shocks? What the fuck are we calling these? Also, actual shocks are all sub-$20 if you're getting the newer ones, and many are less than $10.

The manlands may have Constructed applications. Colonnade sees fringe play in Modern. The one they previewed today is unexciting but a good UR one would be potentially playable, as would a good BG or WB one.

[iamajellydonut]

Not a lot of budget EDH players have fetchlands, so there's not much benefit to running the new - tangolands? double-plus-checklands? Bad Shocks?

They're not much for buying relevant singles, but I've already heard more than one EDH baddie making comments about emptying the piggybank for every last box they can afford because of those "awesome lands!"

I wouldn't be at all surprised to see them stretched as far as they'll go.

[Barook]

Ob Nixilis got confirmed as spoiled before:

Edit: Ultimate is bit better than spoiled as before

[rufus]

...
Also, spending 1UBRG or whatever to cast this and fetch a Scapeshift or something doesn't seem too unreasonable. I'd definitely be willing to speculate on a few sets of it.
...

How about spells without casting cost like Restore Balance,Living End or Hypergenesis? That's the first place I'd look.

Myr Superion and Epochracite are less exciting.

[Lord Seth]

And requires a second card in hand. Yes, the requirement is way too easy, but they still need to find said card.

Thoughts about the manland? While initially disliking it, it seems pretty good vs. control. Creeping Tar Pit can be bolted, StP'ed, etc, while this dodges both sorcery AND instant speed removal. Probably even better in Modern where they lack decent nonbasic hate.

In Modern, it's able to dodge Rending Volley, which will take care of a Creeping Tar Pit and Celestial Colonnade.

I just think it's cool to see enemy manlands. I take back my complaints about the lack of them I gave before. Though I still do hope we see the allied manlands again.

[Dice_Box]

Is it just me or does Kiora want to make love with a Stuffy Doll?

[iamajellydonut]

Edit: Ultimate is bit better than spoiled as before

At the very least, it's more interesting than Kiora's. At a certain point they just have to find a cleaner way to say "you win the game".

[bruizar]

Kiora is a very reasonable card. Not sure if it has a home in legacy. Will surely see play in non-legacy formats.

[Barook]

Is it just me or does Kiora want to make love with a Stuffy Doll?

But then you'd have to run Stuffy Doll in the first place.

She can draw up to 4 cards within two turns, but what deck would want to run her over Jace?

[MD.Ghost]

She can draw up to 4 cards within two turns, but what deck would want to run her over Jace?

Nic Fit in a BUG Shell, Turn 3 untap Deathrite + Land (or Phyrexian Tower if you ramped with Explorer Turn 2).

Gladly the Ob Nix had a better Ultimate, sadly he has cc5..

[iamajellydonut]

Nic Fit in a BUG Shell, Turn 3 untap Deathrite + Land (or Phyrexian Tower if you ramped with Explorer Turn 2).

But you can do the same thing with Jace. And he doesn't suck.

[Barook]

Conduit of Ruin
Creature - Eldrazi (R)
When you cast Conduit of Ruin, you may search your library for a colorless creature card with converted mana cost 7 or higher. If you do, shuffle your library, then put that card on top.
The first creature spell you cast each turn costs 2 less.
5/5

Might be cool in MUD and 12-post.

Edit: Absolutely brutal with Eye of Ugin since it's also an Eldrazi.