@Inwaking, if you want to increase your chances of getting feedback, organise your list.
Group the cards by their function (creatures, interaction spells, card advantage/tutoring, lands) or at the minimum put them in a cost sorted order.
Yeah I just got the text from my MODO exported decklist. I appreciate that heads up though, I will be more cautious next time, I was just kinda in a hurry and didn't realize what a wreck I was. =) thank you.Originally Posted by Jain_Mor
This is my most recent take on the deck but all this Gitaxian Probe talk makes me want to play that as well.
2 Path to Exile
4 Veteran Explorer
4 Cabal Therapy
1 Deathrite Shaman
1 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Scavenging Ooze
2 Sylvan Library
2 Abrupt Decay
1 Oblivion Ring
1 Eternal Witness
1 Maelstrom Pulse
3 Pernicious Deed
2 Academy Rector
1 Thrun, The Last Troll
2 Siege Rhino
1 Thragtusk
1 Titania, Protector of Argoth
1 Sun Titan
1 Grave Titan
1 Karn Liberated
1 Ugin, the Spirit Dragon
3 Green Sun's Zenith
Sideboard
2 Thoughtseize
2 Pithing Needle
1 Ethersworn Canonist
1 Gaddock Teeg
1 Eidolon of Rhetoric
2 Choke
3 Krosan Grip
1 Leyline of Sanctity
2 Leyline of the Void
I really wanted to play cards like Ugin, the spirit Dragon and Karn Liberated to go way over the top but after more testing I kind of just want to build a Stoneforge Mystic list with Batterskull, Sword of Fire and Ice, and Umezawa's Jitte Sigarda, Host of Herons and Gitaxian Probes.
That list is entirely too top heavy. 11 cards with a casting cost of 4 or more is too much. You will die with those cards in hand way way too often.
I do agree it seems like a lot, and it probably is but I've very rarely died with a bunch of cards in hand, usually I have an empty to two card hand at the end of every game.
I have no idea what you are facing i guess... I would add more tops before I add more 5/6 drops. I run 2 cards more than 4 mana (fow not withstanding) and I already hate seeing them in my opener AND the deck has brainstorm in it.
Edit- oops...I forgot DTT counts as over 4 mana.... I run 3 of those too.
@InWaking: I'd at least take out the Karn and switch it with a Diabolic Intent. Between Veteran Explorer and Academy Rector you have enough stuff you want to feed it, and (when it resolves) it'll get you whatever you need at that specific moment. Anything from another basic so you can hardcast whatever next turn to Ugin.
As a side note - without ways of cheating Ugin into play I'd try to refrain from running anything that costs over 6 mana. Sure, when you resolve Ugin you'll most likely win the game, but you just won't get to resolve it all that often. A Grave Titan on the other hand... That'll take the game in a turn or 2 as well and'll leave you with a nice board presence if it bites the dust.
This thing is perilously close to being good enough. At the end of the day, I think that the fact that it triggers off of an optional decision (choosing to play a land for turn) makes it not good enough -- but something in this vein could very easily upset Consecrated Sphinx on its throne in the future. Being Devoid is actually a large upgrade because of the immunity to Pyroblast. Unfortunately, your opponent can just be like, "okay, I'm not playing any more lands now." The fact that they printed this card for standard, though, gives me hope that we might get something spicy with Devoid in the next set.
Arianrhod, I look at devoid on a big thing as a downside. Yes it cannot be Reb/pyro'd but it also cannot be pitched to Fow which is not a small thing. Blasts are already at a premium against most bug fit decks (i would assume?) so that part doesnt really make a big difference to me.
The trigger is good but by the time we are casting this most people will just choose to play around it. The fact that sphinx doesnt give them the option, at least as far as draw steps, is better imo.
Yeah, this isn't replacing Sphinx at all. I was more trying to head off people who thought it would while also commenting on Devoid.
Not pitching to FoW is valid, I suppose. Probably more a playstyle thing than anything -- I tend to prefer bombs to not be Pryoblast-able because I don't like trading 6 mana for 1, whereas there's always a bunch of blue cards floating around for FoW anyway (and Nic Fit, by design, is actually a good FoW deck since the extra lands from Veteran can turn it into a 1-for-1 much quicker than other decks can).
I also tend to try to avoid pitching/discarding/etc bombs when at all possible because I'm very aware of the grinding / time-consuming nature of Nic Fit as an archetype -- I've probably both lost and won games because of that mentality, so somewhere in the middle is probably correct.
I absolutely agree with pitching bombs to fow not being great but having the option (in smth like a storm matchup for example) is something to consider. I look at pyro or reb the same as bolt or stp. One mana answers to things almost always being more than 1 mana. BUT if they do not have or cannot resolve that spell we are fine. I will pitch probe or strix or snap everytime over something like Jace or dig.
As for the playstyle thing. That is for sure true of the nic fit decks in general. some people prefer to spam bombs over and over and eventually something does, I think I play the deck on the other end of the spectrum which is super controlling with a deck filled with 2 for 1's. I think perspectives force people to justify their card choices to people of the other persuasion and that is only a good thing.
Nice work JBone:
http://www.starcitygames.com/article...In-Legacy.html
You gonna be in Milwaukee this weekend?
Indeed, I will.
Current Build: Punishing Rhinos http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/s...l=1#post927726
@Jbone I really like the list and I find the best part of it to be the sideboard, may I ask what the Humility is for. I try not to sound like a moron but I'd like to know if it is for something very specific or if it's meant for a broad spectrum of decks or whatever? The sideboard in general seems pretty epic, any chance you could give us a SB breakdown guide like thing?
Junk Nic Fit "featured" on SCG. Jbone gets some love since he plays online, Sdematt doesn't. Sad :/
-Matt
@inwalking Sneak and show was the show and tell deck of choice at the end of 2014 and its likely an out that synergiezes well with equipment while being relevant against other decks in the field.
Whelp. Disappointed with a 3-4 finish (only 120 ppl). Brief summary since I am on the road currently. Beat dredge. Lost gu post. Lost to renanimator. Beat oops all spells. Beat burn. Lost to d & t. Lost to grixis omnitell.
Current Build: Punishing Rhinos http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/s...l=1#post927726
Doesn't sound like a good meta.
Disappointed to hear about the attendance. I think we're finally reaching a point where the format is starting to wane in popularity due to the prolonged amount of time WotC has allowed Dig to warp the metagame.
There were also two BUG Pod decks with Veteran Explorer in the top 16, including one with Minister of Pain.
http://sales.starcitygames.com//deck...p?DeckID=91757
Total attendance?
Jbone just said 120, Matt.
Good to see Gleicher top 8 again. He definitely has a pedigree with Bug Pod. I'm very surprised to see no Sidisi/Vizier in either list to grab the Nightmare, but I guess they valued their other bullets more.
The white splash (Godless Shrine, lol) for Meddling Mage is adorable in Alex's list. I'm not sure it's better than the red, but I guess in a pod variant you could at least make the argument.
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