I also like the YP against the few Pox decks you might meet. Through the Breach is the go to secondary win condition.
What you really should be worried about against Loam is Entomb/Raven's crime combo. That is much stronger than slaughter games.Originally Posted by genuine fugazi
They don't usually play Raven's Crime though (I assume that's because it clashes with Chalice of the Void).
I think Raven's crime is stronger against Omni than chalice.
Chalice doesn't even stop our gameplan
i see many people side in Young Pyromancer against Delver deck. you guys think is a good idea?
Nope. While Pyromancer can stall against Goyf or Goose, it's still too hard to race a T1 Delver. Grixis Delver is also better at going wide with Pyro, since they got more cheap spells where we have Omniscience, Wish and Emrakul clogging up our hand.
There's actually only 2 guys that use YP against delver decks.
opinion on this list?
Omni-Tell
Ken Briscoe
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Legacy
2 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
5 Island
2 Ancient Tomb
2 City of Traitors
2 Misty Rainforest
3 Polluted Delta
1 Scalding Tarn
2 Volcanic Island
1 Boseiju, Who Shelters All
2 Lotus Petal
4 Omniscience
4 Brainstorm
3 Cunning Wish
4 Dig Through Time
2 Flusterstorm
4 Force of Will
1 Twincast
4 Gitaxian Probe
4 Ponder
4 Preordain
4 Show and Tell
Sideboard
3 Young Pyromancer
2 Blood Moon
1 Eladamri's Call
1 Electrickery
1 Firemind's Foresight
1 Hurkyl's Recall
1 Mindbreak Trap
1 Pyroblast
1 Release the Ants
1 Through the Breach
1 Trickbind
1 Wipe Away
I like the sideboard, but not a huge fan of the 2x Ancient Tombs and 2x Petals. You're sacrificing countermagic (Spell Pierce), FOW food (Spell Pierce), more cantrips in either Intuition or Impulse, AND opening yourself up for more wasteland targets to go marginally faster and make it slightly easier to play around Daze. Omnitell is already a T2-4 win without Petals/Ancient Tomb. Less fetchlands also decrease your odds of being able to cast the YP's and red splashes in the sideboard.
Obviously the deck did well, but results-based analysis can be a trap. I DO really like the 1x Boseiju mainboard, though. I top8'd a smallish (25 or 27 player) GPT this weekend and was always happy to draw Boseiju and won off the back of it (either through a resolved SnT or a Dig) a couple times. Especially with Delver decks becoming more popular.
I'm relatively new to the deck, though, so take my opinions with a grain of salt.
The interesting part is the 2 Blood Moon in SB combined with fast mana (4 Sol lands + 2 Petals MD) to pull it off quickly. I wonder if this is actually a solid plan vs Miracles, which is one of our weak but popularly played MUs?
Without the SB Blood Moon, extra sol lands and petals makes the deck slightly faster and offers more protection against tax counters (Daze, Spell Pierce, Flusterstorm) at the expense of card disadvantage (Petal) and opening you up to Wasteland.
Why is miracles a bad matchup?
When I have played omnitell I have always destroy miracles...
May be not runing pyromancers and 3 pyrobalst allong with 1 boseiju main 1 sb and 2 sudeen shock was good. But its just a really ok match.
It really depends on the Miracles List. Classical Ponder Miracles is quite easy, Legendary builds with multiple Cliques and Vensers are an aweful matchup.
3 pyroblast
2 sudden shock
And may be the 2 pyroclaam in my side bord make gg against them
I've mainly played against Clique-Karakas lock, which had Jace TMS as the primary win con with red blasts in the main and Ethersworn Canonist coming in from the SB. I suppose other builds must exist as well, though, and those might be a bit easier to deal with.
RIP DTT. Sooooooo what now? (Also I am rather shocked that DTT is worse for the format than Counterbalance, but hey, what do I know).
Goodbye OmniTell, was nice knowing you! (not so much)
So the obvious question now becomes: where to go from here?
Back to the Dream Halls/ETI days? Is there anything besides DTT that makes us want to keep our current shell?
I played a bit before DTT was printed and still had fun with the deck so I'll likely start there. We lose a lot SB options as a red splash doesn't seem all that viable, now.
OR maybe I'll go the Sneak and Show route. My guess is there's going to be a lot more GY hate coming back so my previous plan of giving reanimator a try may be worse.
What are y'all planning to do?
Brilliant.
But seriously, is anybody even remotely surprised? Hint: you shouldn't be. Not only was this inevitable, it's three months late.
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