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    Re: [Official] The Source Secret Santa 2015

    Done this the past few years, I'll join again this year.

    Wish List:
    • Korean Basic Lands (FBB 4th or BfZ Full Art) - Any type.
    • Vintage proxies made by you. Already have: Lotus, 5x Mox, Recall, Walk.
    • Zombie tokens made/altered by you.
    • Surprise me!

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    Re: [Official] The Source Secret Santa 2015

    I would rather receive something unique, like the above list, related to Santa/The Source that some foil Japanese unable to find cards.

    The only time I participated (2012?), this was the postcard that came with the gift that I enjoyed the most. I still have it above by desktop 3 years later. Thanks sdematt and nedleeds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by afb0032 View Post
    This looks like a recurring issue each year and I agree with both of you. I have hope like in previous years that these are the minority, but so far I do see some lower value items on most lists. I do understand that they are wishlists (an mtg player can dream of course!), but I think people should have realistic expectations on what they may receive. I saw an individual post brackets for value in one of the other years I participated. For example, an under $20 bracket, $21 - $50, $50 - 100, $100+ to provide options. I love that idea and will be using it when I post my own wishlist. If there is nothing accessible/not of high value on a list, then maybe they should be paired with someone else who has the same expectations. My .02, but GnuHouse is the shot caller this year.
    Let's take a deep breath everyone.

    Wishlists are exactly that...a list of wishes. You're not beholden to them, you don't have to fulfill anything on that list, it's just there as guidance.

    From personal experience, a majority of people are reasonable, don't fill it up with ungodly wants, and try to keep the spirit of the exercise in mind. I've tried to keep mine reasonable in the past, had a few things that were larger (like LEDs and Forces), but kept the list reasonable. I've been "rewarded" as such, with each year getting some awesome stuff (including foil fetches from one generous Sourcer).

    I'm going to keep my eye on some of the lists and make sure they don't get too crazy, but remember two things folks

    1) Lists are suggestions and don't have to be adhered to
    2) If your list is crazy, don't have any expectations that you'll get things off of it

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    Re: [Official] The Source Secret Santa 2015

    It's a bit sad that we got the same bullshit going on as last year, and I'm not referring to crazy wishlists. If you don't like what you see, stay out of here and don't post it. I'm pretty sure everyone here is mature enough to understand that they possibly get matched to a crazy wishlist and then will do the best they can regardless to make that person happy. Please let the people who do join enjoy it.
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    Re: [Official] The Source Secret Santa 2015

    With exception of 1 list (Noctalor) who has already admitted that his list is a stretch from getting fulfilled and he's ok with that, the lists are not bad at all. Keep in mind that this is a legacy forum where we drop THOUSANDS of dollars on decks. $35 is practically nothing. It's like 3 fetch lands from standard sets. Even double that amount, $70 is still very little by legacy standards.

    People with crazy lists have been told that they should expect not to get anything off their list and yet they still sign up which is fine. They were given the disclaimer and accepted the terms.

    There are some things that can be done to mitigate the rage and possibly make everyone happy.

    1. People can opt into different values tiers. You could do $25, $50, $100 tiers (think someone else mentioned this). People can choose their tier and if there are enough people to fill a tier it gets granted.
    2. People can choose whose wish list they want to fulfill. Obviously this would be kept anonymous but if you see someones list and you just happen to have what they are looking for ask to fulfill their wish list.
    3. Set a default gift for people that can't fulfill lists. If you get a list that you can't fulfill then maybe just give a few staples such as a couple fetch lands.

    Its really simple guys. Give a reasonable list or expect the default gift.

    Also, if you are worried about a few extra bucks over the minimum than maybe you need to rethink your participation because if money is so tight save your money...
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    Re: [Official] The Source Secret Santa 2015

    As the organizer last year, let me say two a few things.

    1) The fail rate is actually extremely low. From last year, I only had two complaints of no gifts received. One the package supposedly got sent out, and one package I know didn't get sent out. While any failures I'm not happy with, I think that this is actually a pretty great success rate, considering that there were 67 participants. This could also have been avoided if I would have known how and when to use backup santas properly.

    2) Almost nobody is unhappy with the gifts they receive. Every single year people complain about the wish lists being too extravagant. However, virtually nobody who actually has participated and received a gift complained about not getting expensive things from their wishlist. In fact we find quite the opposite in most cases: people astounded by how awesome their santas are. From having followed everything as organizer last year, I would say greed is far from how I would describe anything about the event.

    3) A lot of people's initial wishlists are crazier than their final wishlists. It's really easy to write a temporary list and include all those crazy cards you've been dreaming about; however, people generally go back to add more depth to their lists as time goes on. In my opinion there's nothing wrong with putting crazy things on wishlists, as long the person also has reasonable things to balance it out. I don't think people that put these crazy things on wishlists actually expect to receive them, but wishlists are just that, wishes.

    4) It's also sad to have people see a little bit negative in the event, fixate on these negatives, and then try to vilify the entire event. Nothing is perfect, but the Secret Santa event has been a very successful event year after year.
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    Re: [Official] The Source Secret Santa 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_Mcdonalds View Post
    4 sho

    Wish list:
    I like Korean stuff, so any Korean staple you can find (within reason), specifically anything in r/g lands, so any thing that goes in that is most appreciated (minus the manabonds), Korean basics are also appreciated

    Beta basics are also fine
    Glad to see you're still around, 'milord' :P It's a shame though I forgot who sent me the awesome quad-island tree alter. (goblinsplayer! that's who it was!)

    Anyhow on to my wishlist! English Non-Foil preferred unless stated

    Bergermeister Meisterberger Tier
    Any number of Coal Golems (no set preference :P)

    Tiny Tim Tier
    0 to 9 Foil [M11] Squadron Hawks
    Any full art basic lands (prefer sets of 9 to make binders pop out)

    Kris Kringle Tier
    0 to 4 of each [KTK]/[ONS] fetchland
    0 to 4 of each shockland

    Clarence Tier
    0 to 2 of each [ZEN] fetchland
    0 to 1 of each dual (no set preference)
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    Re: [Official] The Source Secret Santa 2015

    Wouldn't be Christmas without the Source Secret Santa. Year #4 for me.

    While I do play Legacy, my real love is Magic 94! I'm always on the hunt for any cards from Alpha to the Dark, so pretty much everything and anything from those sets will get me excited. I play by the Swedes rules, so Unlimited is the only white border for me! Don't feel like you have to get me some from Magic 94, that's just my favourite format. I also play EDH, so cool build-around-mes or your favourite tech is always welcome. I used to be into foreign cards, but lately haven't really been feeling it, so my only request is English only cards please :)

    As a helpful tool, but not what I expect to be a shopping cart, cards I'm actively looking for are:

    A single Alpha or Beta Hypnotic Specter
    A single Unlimited Winter Orb
    A single Antiquities Triskelion
    Up to a playset of Alpha or Beta Giant Growth
    Sweet, sweet giants for a Brion Stoutarm deck that I want to build (I have Sun and Inferno Titan, and I'm pretty sure an Oathsworn Giant is kicking around my house, but any other Giants would be appreciated)
    Sweet zombies for Zombie Horde! Cards like Zombie Lord, Death Baron, all of the Onslaught Era Zombies (Undead Warcheif, Noxious Ghoul, Unholy Grotto, etc), and as many awesome Scathe Zombies (Alpha, Beta, Unlimited, Foil, misprint, etc) that you want to jam in there!
    Issue #1 of the Duelist (Own #2, but never got my hands on #1) (This would be so awesome to have, but it's hard to find so don't work too hard Santa)

    Honestly though, I'll appreciate pretty much anything that has had thought put into it. I got some awesome chocolate from Quebec last year, so sweets are amazing as well.
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    Re: [Official] The Source Secret Santa 2015

    Have been out of the game until recently but this always looked fun so I'm glad to be in on it this year. Mods, you should pair me with someone who wants foreign (especially Russian) cards!

    Any condition, any set is fine!

    Reasonable wishlist: (~$10 or less)

    1x Mind Over Matter
    1x Mizzix's Mastery
    1x Magus of The Wheel
    1x Madblind Mountain
    1x Dig Through Time (foil preferred, any ok)
    1x Command Beacon
    1x Treachery
    1x Thought Vessel
    1x Ancient Tomb (FTV preferred)
    1x Temple Bell (foil preferred, any ok)
    1x Tormod's Crypt (foil preferred, any ok)
    1x Towering Indrik (foil only)
    1x Indrik Umbra
    1x Command Beacon
    1x Indrik Stomphowler (foil only)
    1x Hedron Archive (foil preferred, any ok)
    1x Firemind's Foresight
    1x Mizzix of the Izmagnus
    1x Strionic Resonator (foil only)
    1x Burning Wish (foil pref)
    Xx Full-art lands (any set, foil or non)
    Xx Cheap non-bulk EDH rares (e.g. Stonehewer Giant, Spitting Image, Knowledge Exploitation)
    Xx staples for any format (excluding standard)
    Xx fetchlands
    Xx Command Tower

    Reach wishlist: (~$20)

    1x Bloodstained Mire

    Unreasonable wishlist: (~$many)

    1x Volcanic Island (any condition, any set, inked, you name it)
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    Re: [Official] The Source Secret Santa 2015

    I participated last year and it was awesome, so I'm in this year as well :)
    • Language or edition doesn't matter unless specified, but please note that multiple copies of the same card MUST be identical because I strongly dislike playing with non-matching playsets and such.
    • Signed cards are appreciated but please NO foils.
    • I don't like alters very much, hand drawn/home made tokens are SWEET though. (germ, squirrels, Marit Lage, soldiers, wolves)

    Wishlist:

    Really not expecting this stuff
    1 Gaea's Cradle
    1-4 Tarmogoyf (Future Sight)
    1-2 Bayou
    1-2 Rishadan Port

    Expensive stuff
    1 Savannah
    1-4 Verdant Catacombs
    1-4 Mox Diamond (Stronghold)
    1 Dark Depths
    1 Grove of the Burnwillows (Future Sight, English)
    1-3 Thoughtseize (Lorwyn)
    Playset BB 4th edition Asian or German Lightning Bolts

    Pretty reasonable stuff
    1 Thespian's Stage
    1 Titania, Protector of Argoth
    1-4 Containment Priest
    1 Stoneforge Mystic (English)
    1-2 Abrupt Decay (German)
    1-2 Null Rod
    1-4 Eidolon of the Great Revel
    1-4 Cabal Therapy (Judgment)
    1 Pernicious Deed (Apocalypse)
    1 Recurring Nightmare
    1 Unlimited Plains #289 (this one http://magiccards.info/un/en/289.html )
    1-4 Asian FBB Forest #176 (this one http://magiccards.info/4e/en/176.html )
    1 Dust Bowl
    1-4 Chain Lightning (Legends, English)
    1-4 Ghor-Clan Rampager (Gatecrash. Japanese, Russian or Korean)
    1-4 Savannah Lions (Unlimited)
    1-4 Jackal Pup (Tempest)
    1-2 Skyshroud Elite (Exodus, English)
    1 Helm of Awakening (Japanese)
    1 Sadistic Hypnotist (Odyssey, in any foreign language)
    1 Phyrexian Plaguelord (any asian language or German, Urza's Legacy)
    1-2 Deranged Hermit (Urza's Legacy)
    1 Nantuko Vigilante (any asian language or German)
    1 Withered Wretch (Torment, any asian language or German))

    Random or additional stuff
    • 1 foreign language old frame booster.
    • Any kind of cherry flavoured candy/sweets (cherry isn't a very popular flavour in my country, sadly).
    • Some random Erhnam Djinns and random Chain of Vapors. Edition or language does not matter at all but weirder = better :D (Foils are okay here)
    • 1 Horrible Hordes signed by you.
    • Unusual or cool dice of any kind.
    • Unglued or Alpha/Beta basics.
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    Re: [Official] The Source Secret Santa 2015

    I'm in.

    Wishlist:
    I'm currently building Food Chain and 12-Post, so anything from those two decks would be awesome. (Already have food chains)

    If not - I love foil Atogatogs with a little customization (Source SS, username, some little alteration, always appreciated)
    Otherwise, totally up to you.
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    Re: [Official] The Source Secret Santa 2015

    In as every year for a while now!
    Some lists are scary, but hey, you might just get something you deserve for being greedy :p

    My wishlist (will try to update constantly. If you already sent out and I deleted it, that's my problem ;) )

    1st of all, a christmas-y alter by you personally! This is mandatory. No need to make it all artsy-fartsy, I received various alters and they were all hilariously amazing.

    Wants:
    4 Gamble
    4 Leyline of Sanctity
    4 Shardless Agent
    2 Sphere of Resistance
    3 Dark Depths
    3 Sudden Demise
    4 Stoneforge Mystic
    3 True-Name Nemesis

    Cube wants (English only, as I cube with newer players often. Foils/promos are always appreciated though):
    Baleful Strix
    Brimaz, King of Oreskos
    Deranged Hermit
    Goblin Guide
    Karn Liberated
    Mystical Tutor
    Treachery
    Reveillark
    Rofellos
    Survival of the Fittest
    Toxic Deluge
    Venser, Shaper Savant
    Vindicate (any judge foil)
    Pernicious Deed (judge foil)
    Wasteland

    Dream stuff:
    Pimp Plateau
    judge foil basics (any)
    Liliana of the Veil

    Always an option:
    Pimp stuff for:
    Painter (monored or Rw)
    Lands
    RUG/bURG Delver
    TES
    Modern: TarmoTwin, 3-4c Gifts, Jeskai Ascendancy
    Expeditions always welcome, especially shocklands/fetches, if you're feeling generous.
    Prefer foils. Foreign foils are welcome as well. Love Russian and German especially, but other non-EN languages are fine as well.

    If nothing on list is suitable for you, surprise me with random Modern/Legacy staples. I love playing combo, control and tempo. I also love foil ZEN/BFZ basics and Unglued basics. UNH are good as well, non-Mountain only though. Random christmas-y alter done by you is still mandatory though :p
    Random Cube staples (unpowered) in foil (English) are welcome as well. Nonfoil random ideas for Cube, etc. etc. Local chocolate. Altered/special case for Kindle paperwhite. Custom deckbox (has to fit double-sleeved deck with some tokens though). Lounging Kibler playmat, if you were to get it signed by him. Patrick Chapin's book.
    Bazaar of Moxen/Starcitygames tokens. Etc. etc.

    I hope you can find something. I judge way more than play nowadays, therefore non-card presents are highly welcome!
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    Re: [Official] The Source Secret Santa 2015

    I want to give this a shot. It looks like it could be fun.

    Wishlist:

    First, take one of your favorite commons and alter it all Chistmas-like. I don't care how good your art skills are. I want something funny/silly/cool/awesome or any combination of those. :)

    Tokens:
    Goblin
    Zombie
    Wurm
    Dragon
    Thopter
    Insect
    All preferably altered by you (I like guitars on MTG art) or unique in some other cool way.

    Random Stuff:
    4x Atarka's Command
    1x Siege-Gang Commander (Scourge)
    1x Worldgorger Dragon
    1x Dance of the Dead (Altered with guitars like my profile pic. Do it yourself with a sharpie if you feel adventurous!)
    1x Everflowing Chalice (FNM Foil)
    1x Shard Phoenix (JSS Foil)
    Zendikar Basics

    These are my decks:
    Dragon Stompy
    Zirilan EDH
    GR Wurms
    Pimp stuff for these are always welcome. :)
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    Re: [Official] The Source Secret Santa 2015

    Never done this before but it sounds like a lot of fun. I like/have a lot of foreign cards (Japanese in particular), so I should probably get paired with somebody else who wants them. I'm a fan of old borders, and generally don't like foils.

    Wishlist

    Easy-to-find tier:

    Beta basics
    Japanese basics (any old-border set)
    Any remotely playable old-border Japanese commons/uncommons you have laying around

    Cards nobody has heard of tier

    Acid Rain

    "Wtf is this foreign shit Arzar" tier:

    German Snow-Covered basics (Ice Age)
    2 German Helm of Obedience
    1 FBB Japanese Nether Shadow
    Any other Japanese Slivers (esp old ones)
    Any old-bordered Japanese Dragons
    Any Japanese Onslaught block clerics
    1 FBB German Wheel of Fortune

    Honestly, anything you think is cool. Personalized tokens/alters/signatures by you etc. would be sweet.
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    Re: [Official] The Source Secret Santa 2015

    In, will update soon.

    Non-foil Japanese Basics(Old frame)
    Non-foil Japanese Storm stuff(TES/ANT/DD/TPS)
    Any card from Painter, maybe I can do the Secret Santa Altered Painter
    Altered tokens by you!
    Anything art, like an old playmat you have around the house that you can alter for me.

    Yep, I guess that is enough :)
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    Just a friendly reminder, if you want in on Secret Santa and have not sent me your shipping details, you have 11 days to do so

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    I'm in! Even though I was one of the ones who didn't receive last year, the previous years were great.

    Wishlist:

    - any cool FBB old border stuff (prefer French!) for my cube, for example Balance or Winter Orb or even basic lands
    - any old border arena/judge/jss foil promos, like Capsize, Man o' War, Duress, or Diabolic Edict
    - here's my cube list: http://www.cubetutor.com/viewcube/16060
    - here's my google doc wishlist (ignore the pie in the sky stuff): https://tinyurl.com/p48dmzv
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    Re: [Official] The Source Secret Santa 2015

    After skipping a year due to being in college, I suppose I'll throw in my hat again for this one.


    Stuff I would totally like (looking to hopefully finish up that 2nd Legacy deck :D ), some of this is more stretch than other stuff. I come in with low expectations, so if I get anything good at all I'll be thoroughly surprised.

    1 Vendilion Clique
    1 Dryad Arbor
    2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
    4 Misty Rainforest
    1 Savannah
    1 Taiga
    3 Tropical Island
    2 Tundra
    4 Green Sun's Zenith

    4 Japanese Swords to Plowshares (Colsnap Reprint only)
    3 Foil Russian Kiln Fiend
    4 Russian Kiln Fiend
    4 Pyromancer Ascension

    Literally any Blue dual would be amazing and make my life so much easier.

    Also, feel free to give me Kiln fiends of any language (I don't need foils for most languages. Would rather deal with getting foils of those myself).

    If none of these are reasonable, please let the organizer know and I can add smaller more reasonable stuff ^_^ (oooooorrrrrr you could just send me tradeable stuff).

    I cannot ship internationally, too much money.
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    Re: [Official] The Source Secret Santa 2015

    Playing Rug Delver and Ant in Japanese

    Wishlist
    Fourth Bb Japanese Basics
    Fourth Bb Dark Ritualx4
    Japanese Rough/tumble
    Japanese Red Elemental Blast or Pyroblast
    Onslaught non blue Japanese Fetchlands
    Entombs
    Japanese Life From the Loan
    Japanese Xantid Swarm
    Japanese Carpet of Flowers
    Japanese Sylvan Library
    Crazy Wishlist
    Tundra
    Unlimited Scrubland

    Am happy with anything. I build a lot of crazy decks. You could send me cool cards from your favorite legacy deck.
    I play mostly Japanese decks.

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    Re: [Official] The Source Secret Santa 2015

    Last year was great, I'm in again.

    Wishlist

    I would like to get 4 english veteran Explorer altered to a christmas theme by you

    Up to 4 foil english conspiracy swords to plowshares
    Up to 4 fnm mother of runes
    Up to 4 foil english or foil chinese serra avenger from Time Spiral

    Cards that are Not so easy to find
    Up to 3 chinese veteran Explorer
    1 chinese Rain of filth
    1 chinese foil birchlore Ranger
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