[Primer] R/G Lands

[Admiral Nobeard]

So what is the best and fastest way I can deal with Aggro Loam? Every match I've had against it has been terrible, smiliar to an 80/20 matchup; mostly due to them landing Chalice before I drop an accelerant or too many Knights. Or both.

[Rivfader]

So what is the best and fastest way I can deal with Aggro Loam? Every match I've had against it has been terrible, smiliar to an 80/20 matchup; mostly due to them landing Chalice before I drop an accelerant or too many Knights. Or both.

Your best bet versus them is comboing before a Knight gets online, as it can can hold of Marit Lage by getting Wasteland or Karakas, and because they don't run Swords to Plowshares.

[Admiral Nobeard]

Your best bet versus them is comboing before a Knight gets online, as it can can hold of Marit Lage by getting Wasteland or Karakas, and because they don't run Swords to Plowshares.

Is there a way to fight a T1 Chalice from them, or just a Chalice before I get Bond or Exploration out? I've considered adding one Bayou for Abrupt Decay, but I'm not sure that's worth it just for Chalice.

[Rivfader]

Is there a way to fight a T1 Chalice from them, or just a Chalice before I get Bond or Exploration out? I've considered adding one Bayou for Abrupt Decay, but I'm not sure that's worth it just for Chalice.

They will usually board in Leyline of the Void against you, so I'd pack all your Krosan Grips in the matchup. I think lately Abrupt Decay has become better because of Monastery Mentor and the popularity of 4cloam (I often run a 2-2 split myself, splashing a little black).

[Admiral Nobeard]

They will usually board in Leyline of the Void against you, so I'd pack all your Krosan Grips in the matchup. I think lately Abrupt Decay has become better because of Monastery Mentor and the popularity of 4cloam (I often run a 2-2 split myself, splashing a little black).

When you say 2-2, you mean 2 Decay and 2 Grip?

[Rivfader]

When you say 2-2, you mean 2 Decay and 2 Grip?

Yes, I've been doing that for quite some time. It probably has to do with a personal affection for the card as well, but as I've said before, I've experienced that Abrupt Decay has become a better option since MM, and against Knight of the Reliquary now that 4cLoam is becoming very popular.

[djxstream]

between my under performing Karakas and this threads love of prime time lately. I'm thinking of making the swap for this weekend...thoughts?

[barcode]

So what is the best and fastest way I can deal with Aggro Loam? Every match I've had against it has been terrible, smiliar to an 80/20 matchup; mostly due to them landing Chalice before I drop an accelerant or too many Knights. Or both.

I treat aggro-loam as a lands mirror. I want to have fast mana online quickly and I want to deny their mana with Wasteland and Krosan Grip. As secondary goals I want to attack their graveyard with Bojuka Bog and keep their 4 creatures (Knights) from hitting me (the others don't matter because they die to Punishing Fire).

[Chatto]

between my under performing Karakas and this threads love of prime time lately. I'm thinking of making the swap for this weekend...thoughts?

What do you mean with swap? I like Karakas as a SB-card, and I like Prime-Time. So, I pack both.

[gigapatrick]

#104

#105

Enjoy. Forgive some of my petulance for facing Storm for the billionth time.

[grmpytopdecker]

Feeling really frustrated lately at my LGS due to a stretch where I face tons of combo or never seem to draw into my good cards against the good match-ups. This past Friday was rough in our 4 rounds of FNM

0-2 vs Death and Taxes where I drew 1 Punishing Fire in both games and stupidly chose to K-Grip a revoker instead of Rest In Peace thinking "I can draw into a Crop rotation or Depths"

1-2 vs. Dark Petition Storm where I lost on turn 2, won on turn 4, lost on turn 2

0-2 vs. Omni Tell where I lost on turn 2 in both games

2-0 against an inexperienced Miracles pilot who I kept off white mana

9-15 so far in our first quarter Legacy league (our store is doing quarterly invitational events but I won't be able to play anyway because I will be away the weekend of the event) and so frustrated at not winning the match-ups that are good. I know learning how to play against tough match-ups is the key to learning the deck but getting told "sorry man, tough match-up" gets old.

Multiple storm, Omni-Tell, Sneak and Show, Reanimator, Belcher, 12 Post, multiple D & T, BUG Delver, Shardless BUG, and then a few randos.

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[Lysandros]

#104

#105

Enjoy. Forgive some of my petulance for facing Storm for the billionth time.

Patrick - When you're getting ready to film do you join a 2 Man and sit there waiting for an opponent? If so, you might consider waiting and joining once someone else enters the room first. With 105 videos under your belt, you're a known commodity now as a Lands player. I guarantee people grab their Storm deck and jump into the room with glee when they see you sitting there because it's such a good matchup for them. I've got a couple decks on MODO, and when I see people who I know are on a certain deck I'm more than happy to give myself an edge and jump in with something with a favorable matchup (unless I'm testing). Just a thought. You are facing an inordinate amount of combo in your 2 Mans.

[Dice_Box]

My new token.

[Chatto]

That is one sweet, fingerlicking good Avatar. The flavour and art are spot-on!

[Admiral Nobeard]

That has to be the most adorable way to die from Marit Lage. My current token for ML is the Toothless Frank pug token made by RK Post. I have him in a perfect fit sleeve and just wrote on the sleeve the information I needed.

[gigapatrick]

Patrick - When you're getting ready to film do you join a 2 Man and sit there waiting for an opponent? If so, you might consider waiting and joining once someone else enters the room first. With 105 videos under your belt, you're a known commodity now as a Lands player. I guarantee people grab their Storm deck and jump into the room with glee when they see you sitting there because it's such a good matchup for them. I've got a couple decks on MODO, and when I see people who I know are on a certain deck I'm more than happy to give myself an edge and jump in with something with a favorable matchup (unless I'm testing). Just a thought. You are facing an inordinate amount of combo in your 2 Mans.

Yeah, I have been facing combo a lot. Usually I just join a queue regardless of whether there's another player in it or not. I think I'll take your advice and wait until there's already someone in the queue.

On another note, I'm super excited about Legacy Leagues going live on Wednesday. Hope to make some League videos soon.

[supremePINEAPPLE]

I'll be in there with ya as soon as they start up. I've had Lands together online forever but hate playing in the tournament style events because I have no attention span/time. Leagues have been awesome for me in other formats so I'm so excited to play legacy in them finally.

Hopefully port gets reprinted in the eternal masters set too so more people can start playing Lands online. It and death and taxes are criminally underrepresented.

[Dice_Box]

And so I can get Foils.

Sadly I will likely bet not though, thanks to the release of the Judge Foil.

[gigapatrick]

Speaking of combo matchups, here's another one:

#106

[Chatto]

Ok, I'm debating on which deck I'm going to bring to a tournament this saturday. The meta will something around the lines of this:

- various Delver.decks
- Miracles
- Storm.deck
- Reanimator
- Maverick
- Eldrazi

Eldrazi has been quiet the hype around here. That's why I'm afraid there will be a lot of Blood Moons around. My SB looks like this:

1 Boseiju, Who Shelters All
1 Karakas
1 Primeval Titan
2 Boil
2 Chalice of the Void
4 Sphere of Resistance
4 Krosan Grip

MB is pretty stock, still considering if I should swap a Tranquil Thicket for a Horizon Canopy. Any suggestions for the SB are welcome.