[Primer/Deck] Nic Fit

[Frenchywox]

JUDGE! :-D What is going to happen in this scenario?

3/4 reach for the win obviously!

I really like your idea's. I only doubt that this type of list lacks velocity and can have awkward draws/openers. Looks really fun to play, but:
Obviously Humility is the (no THE) MVP tech in this deck. A LOT of decks fold to a resolved Humility. Granted, the synergy Humility begs for are more combat walkers/Lingering Souls coupled with Zealous Persecution. Not saying you should do that, but rather confirming that this actually works.

Thank you!

I know the version with LSouls and ZPersecution is great but it's not a fast version too.

I try to insert "instant" kill like Eldrazi Conscription (who works under humility) or Marit lage to fight this lack of velocity (english langage or not : i don't know!) and resolve MD Leyline vs combo (game vs ANT, Burn generally) or Primeval Bounty vs aggro deck give you a lot of time and life to control the rest of the game safely (land a fetch, crack it, crop rotate, take a fetchland, crack it... 1 green = 10 life!)

A turn 4 kill/concede is not so rare with this build.

[jbone2016]

Good luck! Will you be round-by-rounding, either here or on facebook?

Probably on Facebook. Hopefully better then the 0-4 drop at St. Louis

[Weast]

Hello. This is gonna be my first legacy deck that I want to get into. Right now I've been playing Scapewish as I have a lot of the cards for it already (previously played Scapeshift in modern). I'm having a blast and making some tweaks here and there. I decided to play it safe just use the primer version and go from there.


//Artifact (2)
2 Sensei's Divining Top

//Creature (16)
1 Eternal Witness
2 Huntmaster of the Fells
1 Nissa, Vastwood Seer
1 Primeval Titan
2 Sakura-Tribe Elder
1 Scavenging Ooze
2 Stormbreath Dragon
2 Thragtusk
4 Veteran Explorer

//Enchantment (3)
3 Pernicious Deed

//Sorcery (15)
4 Burning Wish
4 Cabal Therapy
4 Green Sun's Zenith
3 Scapeshift

//Land (24)
3 Badlands
1 Bayou
3 Bloodstained Mire
3 Forest
2 Mountain
2 Stomping Ground
3 Swamp
4 Taiga
2 Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle
1 Wooded Foothills

//Sideboard
2 Abrupt Decay
1 Innocent Blood
1 Maelstrom Pulse
1 Massacre
1 Pyroclasm
2 Red Elemental Blast
1 Scapeshift
2 Slaughter Games
1 Surgical Extraction
2 Thoughtseize
1 Toxic Deluge


Any suggestions would be appreciated. I cut 1 bayou and 1 top because I don't currently own extra of them. However will get them at a later date.

[jbone2016]

Minor update: 2-2. Beat burn, punishing jund then lost to lands and reanimator (Cedric phillips). Big game hunter did kill an Iona

[Bobmans]

Minor update: 2-2. Beat burn, punishing jund then lost to lands and reanimator (Cedric phillips). Big game hunter did kill an Iona

Hehe, sweet tech reminds me of Survival of the Fittest. Anyhow, to bad 2-2. Lands is a b... and Reanimate is a coin toss really.

Keep it going!

[Firepaw3]

Currently 5-1 with scapewish at scg philly, lost round 4 to enchantress beat: miracles dntx2 merfolk and goblin stompy

[Weast]

What is yours scapewish list looking like?

[Ricardio]

KEEP FIGHTING NIC FITTERS AT SCG PHILLY !!! <3


League:

2-1 Gw Post
I aggro'd out game 1
g2 he had reocurring ulamog with karakas lol
g3 i surgical prime time, slaughter emrakul and ugin and then path his last ulamog and he concedes because that is all the threats hahahaha

2-1 colorless eldrazi
g1 i got run over
g2 i got to vindicate his land and then ewit vindicate his second land and he conceded
g3 i got to seize and thereapy him and then land glissa(he said he cant beat it) then i landed sigarda and won.

2-1 Grixis Delver
g1 he had it all and i died to delver/yp and 3 bolts
g2/g3 i resolved vet triggers and won handedly (he kept a weird controlling hand g3 on 7 for whatever reason

2-1 Renimtor w/o daze
g1 he had t2 gbrand
g2/g3 i got drs out and then scooz

2-0 Colorless Eldrazi
g1 I got to therapy and vet him out with meren value infinite
g2 i therapy tks and surgical. then gsz for vet get jitte. same turn another therapy and drs. he accidentally casts endless one for 0 and shame scoops.

FIVE AND 0 BABY

Deck felt super good.
*UPDATED*

[Firepaw3]

What is yours scapewish list looking like?

I'll write the list out and do a report sometime later this week, picked up a loss to sneak but beat storm last round, currently 6-2 going into last round for day1

[Hmmm_Really?]

colorless eldrazi…
g3 i got to seize and thereapy him and then land glissa(he said he cant beat it)...

Why can't he beat it? Glissa still dies to a 4/4 or 5/5, right? Or did you have a recurring engine?

[Ralf]

Why can't he beat it? Glissa still dies to a 4/4 or 5/5, right? Or did you have a recurring engine?

First strike + deathtouch mean it is hard to kill in battle...
It won't die to some vanilla X/X.

[Hmmm_Really?]

First strike + deathtouch mean it is hard to kill in battle...
It won't die to some vanilla X/X.

Just to be clear, we're all agreed that Glissa dies to a TKS or a Reality Smasher or any vanilla 4/4, yes?

[Weast]

I'll write the list out and do a report sometime later this week, picked up a loss to sneak but beat storm last round, currently 6-2 going into last round for day1

I'd like to read that. I'm trying to get the most information I can for this deck.

[TTX]

Just to be clear, we're all agreed that Glissa dies to a TKS or a Reality Smasher or any vanilla 4/4, yes?

Really?



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[sdematt]

Really?



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So just in case, since I know I missed it the first time, it has both Deathtouch and First Strike. What this means is that unless the other creature has first strike, Glissa will do first strike damage, and if it does, assuming no protection, Deathtouch will kick in and kill that creature before it can swing back on regular damage. It literally wins every battle, sans flying, horsemanship, another bigger first striker, or pro black/green.

I need to start rigorously testing against Miracles in case I end up going to Prague in June.

-Matt

[Hmmm_Really?]

I stand corrected...

http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/magic-fundamentals/magic-rulings/magic-rulings-archives/288744-creatures-with-death-touch-and-first-strike

[Ricardio]

I stand corrected...

http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/magic-fundamentals/magic-rulings/magic-rulings-archives/288744-creatures-with-death-touch-and-first-strike

Bold accusations and then linking a correction from mtgsalvation. First time here?

[Arianrhod]

Bold accusations and then linking a correction from mtgsalvation. First time here?

I laughed. Be gentle.

[Echelon]

Lol @ above. Also, first strike and deathtouch is kiddy stuff. Come on, you should know this!

2-1 colorless eldrazi
...
g3 i got to seize and thereapy him and then land glissa(he said he cant beat it) then i landed sigarda and won.

Told you so. You're welcome!

That's it, I'm picking one up at the next monthly. No ugly ass GP Spiritmonger for me!

Also, I'm planning to look at the GBC manabase, I want to see if I can at least get it to 14 initial green sources. If that's the case, I may start building it too. Seems too good a possibility to do funny stuff with Fierce Empath into a random fatty to not at least try it.

Edit: Here's what I've come up with, taking Arianrhods manabase as a starting point:
4 Cloudpost
3 Glimmerpost
4 Verdant Catacombs
3 Windswept Heath
2 Forest
1 Swamp
1 Waste
1 Eye of Ugin
2 Bayou
3 Llanowar Wastes

This gets you up to 14 green and 13 black. I was inclined to cut Eye of Ugin but if you can tutor for that it holds a lot of value when moving towards a kill. If you can't I'd drop it for a second Swamp.

4 basics is a very small number, but choices, choices man.

Edit 2: The following thought just occured to me: Terramorphic Expanse and Evolving Wilds both can fetch Wastes. Consider the following manabase:
4 Terramorphic Expanse
4 Evolving Wilds
4 Llanowar Wastes
2 Forest
2 Swamp
1 Wastes
4 Cloudpost
4 Glimmerpost
1 Eye of Ugin

It puts you a turn behind your opponent (looking at it objectively mostly only a problem on the draw) but does provide you with a perfectly stable manabase without needing any duals whatsoever.

The ETB tapped sucks (hence the 4 Llanowar Wastes), but perhaps this is a solution as well.

[Bobmans]

So just in case, since I know I missed it the first time, it has both Deathtouch and First Strike. What this means is that unless the other creature has first strike, Glissa will do first strike damage, and if it does, assuming no protection, Deathtouch will kick in and kill that creature before it can swing back on regular damage. It literally wins every battle, sans flying, horsemanship, another bigger first striker, or pro black/green.

I need to start rigorously testing against Miracles in case I end up going to Prague in June.

-Matt

What flavor are you planning to play?

The combination of First Strike + Deathtouch is so ugly that there are only 2 creatures that have those static ability's while not being conditional. There are other creatures that can have both static ability, but those need some condition to be met first, like activated ability requiring a mana cost or it only has those ability's while attacking. Also there are no Aura's or Equipment's that provide both. None exist with Double Strike rather then First Strike. I find Master of Cruelties rather interesting, but have never actually played with that card.

@ Firepaw, good job so far. How did R9 go?

Yesterday i was toying around with a BUG list running Deadeye Navigator. That was utterly disgusting if you got it with Baleful Strix / Thragtusk.