[Primer/Deck] Nic Fit

[Hmmm_Really?]

... Having that first green mana turn 1 is crucial ...

@Echelon, do you always mulligan to get a Vet on Turn 1 or GSZ on T2?

[sdematt]

@Echelon, do you always mulligan to get a Vet on Turn 1 or GSZ on T2?

Not always necessary, but the hand should have manipulation and removal into a plan, at least.

Sigarda 2.0 seems okay, but Im not excited. If she also had Hexproof, thrn MAYBE but it's not great. Or, if she was a 4/5 baneslayer that we could GSZ for, thatd be fine as well. Alas, nope.

Rhino lowers the curve and increases both consistency and power level. Dont underestimate it, he's the reason I created this deck in the first place.

Edit:

This would be auto include, right?

Sigarda 2.0, Angry as Fuck Edition: 2BWG, Legendary

Cannot be on the battlefield at the same time as Host of Herons.

Flying, Lifelink, Deathtouch, Shroud (not hexproof). Protection from Angels and Demons

4/5

[rubblekill]

Not always necessary, but the hand should have manipulation and removal into a plan, at least.

Sigarda 2.0 seems okay, but Im not excited. If she also had Hexproof, thrn MAYBE but it's not great. Or, if she was a 4/5 baneslayer that we could GSZ for, thatd be fine as well. Alas, nope.

Rhino lowers the curve and increases both consistency and power level. Dont underestimate it, he's the reason I created this deck in the first place.

Edit:

This would be auto include, right?

Sigarda 2.0, Angry as Fuck Edition: 2BWG, Legendary

Cannot be on the battlefield at the same time as Host of Herons.

Flying, Lifelink, Deathtouch, Shroud (not hexproof). Protection from Angels and Demons

4/5

F yes man. It is the very same card (without deathtouch) I was hyped for after reading that Uncharted Realms chapter.

All I want is a GSZ'able BSA-like flying creature. Even without first strike and protection from Demons and Dragons. Flying, lifelink/shroud.

[Arianrhod]

F yes man. It is the very same card (without deathtouch) I was hyped for after reading that Uncharted Realms chapter.

All I want is a GSZ'able BSA-like flying creature. Even without first strike and protection from Demons and Dragons. Flying, lifelink/shroud.

Yeah, that's one of the missing pieces that we may one day get. A Zenithable Baneslayer Angel, with or without hexproof/protections, would be a massive power spike for us.

[Ricardio]

F yes man. It is the very same card (without deathtouch) I was hyped for after reading that Uncharted Realms chapter.

All I want is a GSZ'able BSA-like flying creature. Even without first strike and protection from Demons and Dragons. Flying, lifelink/shroud.

A Girl can dream...

[uncletiggy]

still working on 4 color rhino. I've md the slaughter games and put 2 bridges in the board. so far 5-2 in sideboarded games vs sneak. ill get more testing in on monday. but i will say bridge is no where near the nobo it lookes like on paper. there has been no issue popping it for a lethal swing and garruk ph does a nice job going wide then filling your hand just enough to send the team. i have no way to test against eldrazi so if anyone would like to see how it works out there here's the list:

4 vet
2 drs
1 scooze
1 qpm
1 nissa
1 ewitness
4 rhino
1 sigarda
1 tusk

3 top
4 zenith
1 nightmare

4 therapy*
2 games
3 decay
3 path
3 deed
1 pulse

21 lands*

2 bayou
1 scrub
1 savanna*
1 badlands
3 forest*
2 swamp
2 plains
1 tower
4 catacombs
2 marsh flats
2 wooded foothills

14g 14b 12w 9r

2 ts
1 needle
2 cannonist
1 e. plague
1 grip
1 teeg
1 g charm
1 garruk ph
3 surgical
2 e bridge

[sdematt]

still working on 4 color rhino. I've md the slaughter games and put 2 bridges in the board. so far 5-2 in sideboarded games vs sneak. ill get more testing in on monday. but i will say bridge is no where near the nobo it lookes like on paper. there has been no issue popping it for a lethal swing and garruk ph does a nice job going wide then filling your hand just enough to send the team. i have no way to test against eldrazi so if anyone would like to see how it works out there here's the list:

4 vet
2 drs
1 scooze
1 qpm
1 nissa
1 ewitness
4 rhino
1 sigarda
1 tusk

3 top
4 zenith
1 nightmare

4 therapy*
2 games
3 decay
3 path
3 deed
1 pulse

21 lands*

2 bayou
1 scrub
1 savanna*
1 badlands
3 forest*
2 swamp
2 plains
1 tower
4 catacombs
2 marsh flats
2 wooded foothills

14g 14b 12w 9r

2 ts
1 needle
2 cannonist
1 e. plague
1 grip
1 teeg
1 g charm
1 garruk ph
3 surgical
2 e bridge

Why Badlands over Taiga? Availability?

[uncletiggy]

primarily availability. secondly a tiaga would force me to rework the mana base as it stand the swap would give me 15g 13b 12w 9r. I'd have to -1 savanna +1 scrub i prefer getting to play 1 each. I plan to buy the tiagas for lands but i dont think id play either way.

[Diogo37]

Hello
I wonder if there is still some good Abzan list with Birthing Pod , I'm really into start playing with Abzan Nic Fit

[Bobmans]

Hello
I wonder if there is still some good Abzan list with Birthing Pod , I'm really into start playing with Abzan Nic Fit

Try adjusting this.

4 Veteran Explorer
3 Dethrite Shaman
3 Stoneforge Mystic
1 Gaddock Teeg
1 Scavenging Ooze
1 Eternal Witness
1 Reclamation Sage
1 Kitchen Finks
1 Fleshbag Marauder
1 Meren of Clan Nel Toth
1 Murderous Redcap
1 Siege Rhino
1 Sigarda, Host of Herons
1 Thragtusk
1 Grave Titan // Sun Titan

3 Birthing Pod
1 Green Sun's Zenith
1 Umezawa's Jitte
1 Batterskull

4 Cabal Therapy
3 Pernicious Deed
2 Abrupt Decay
1 Maelstrom Pulse
1 Toxic Deluge

22 Lands

Sideboard/maybeboard?
1 Ohrzov Pontiff
1 Glissa, the Traitor
1 Shriekmaw
1 Restoration Angel
1 Qasali Pridemage

[Echelon]

Rhino really changes the power level of the deck.

It pushes it over 9000.

@Echelon, do you always mulligan to get a Vet on Turn 1 or GSZ on T2?

What Matt said. You just want to make sure that when you have a Vet, you can actually cast it.

@matt: Clear out your messagebox, dammit! Lol.

[Plague Sliver]

Sigarda, Heron's Grace...

...got excited for it in Nic Fit until I realized she wasn't Human

[sdematt]

@Echelon

Cleared.

-Matt

[Echelon]

@Echelon

Cleared.

-Matt

Thank you very much, good sir.

[Ralf]

Hello
I wonder if there is still some good Abzan list with Birthing Pod , I'm really into start playing with Abzan Nic Fit

You could also try this, since I have worked on it for a few months:


1 Dryad Arbor
1 Plains
1 Savannah
1 Taiga
2 Bayou
2 Scrubland
2 Swamp
3 Forest
4 Verdant Catacombs
4 Windswept Heath

1 Aven Mindcensor
1 Eternal Witness
1 Gaddock Teeg
1 Glissa, the Traitor
1 Huntmaster of the Fells
1 Kitchen Finks
1 Meren of Clan Nel Toth
1 Mystic Enforcer
1 Orzhov Pontiff
1 Reclamation Sage
1 Restoration Angel
1 Scavenging Ooze
1 Shriekmaw
1 Sigarda, Host of Herons
1 Tidehollow Sculler
2 Veteran Explorer
3 Stoneforge Mystic
4 Deathrite Shaman

1 Batterskull
1 Umezawa's Jitte
3 Birthing Pod

3 Abrupt Decay

1 Diabolic Intent
3 Green Sun's Zenith
4 Cabal Therapy

SB: 2 Engineered Plague
SB: 1 Dryad Militant
SB: 2 Liliana of the Veil
SB: 2 Surgical Extraction
SB: 1 Slaughter Games
SB: 3 Thoughtseize
SB: 3 Abeyance
SB: 1 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben


Major changes were:
- Glissa to fight against Eldrazi
- Huntmaster took Redcap spot as he is better in a vacuum
- Enforcer to fight Marit.deck
- Abeyance is such a beating right now

Happy testing.

Ralf

Ps: I can also provide sideboard tables for almost 15 matchups.

[Jain_Mor]

@Ralf, Abeyance is interesting! What decks would you bring it in against? And how many times have you cast it in testing/real play?

Cause I notice it can screw over miracles triggers which is fun... But maybe too cute?

Thanks :)

[Echelon]

@Ralf, Abeyance is interesting! What decks would you bring it in against? And how many times have you cast it in testing/real play?

Cause I notice it can screw over miracles triggers which is fun... But maybe too cute?

Thanks :)

I'd start with ANT/TES. As soon as they cast discard/a tutor - OK, bye now. Try again next turn.

Magical Christmasland would be after they've cast Infernal Tutor and cracked LED.

[Dadadot]

Can somebody enlighten me concerning glissa? i don't get her usefulness. serious question.

[Echelon]

Can somebody enlighten me concerning glissa? i don't get her usefulness. serious question.

People hate Eldrazi. Eldrazi only sends in ground troops. She has first strike and deathtouch. Glissa > Eldrazi troops. Eldrazi do not run library manipulation and only a couple of Dismembers as a removal suite, so they have a hard time getting rid of her. This pleases people.

Don't get distracted by that chunk of reminder text under her keyword abilities. If she were a 1/1 honey badger with the same keyword abilities I'd run her all the same. This is a serious answer.

[Ralf]

@Ralf, Abeyance is interesting! What decks would you bring it in against? And how many times have you cast it in testing/real play?

Cause I notice it can screw over miracles triggers which is fun... But maybe too cute?

Thanks :)

Hello Jain,

We've been looking for some instant spells to backup hatebears in a junk fit build and to enable loads of nasty tricks.
The main reason was to add some reactive spells in a proactive shell to catch opponents off guard.

To be honest, it's been at least 10 years since the last time I played Abeyance in a Legacy deck.

The card can be used either reactively or proactively even if you'll use it mainly reactively.


The card is great against:

- Shardless (shardless trigger, ancestral vision last counter trigger, etc...)
- Miracle (Miracle trigger, Snapcaster trigger etc...)
- Storm (In response to IT, to discard to buy a turn etc...)


The card is average against:

- Elves (it buys you a turn when played at the end of opp's upkeep)
- Infect (same as above)

I think you'll be somehow amazed/amused how relevant abeyance could be in Legacy, these days, as it is usually never dead because you will always find a way to use it and at least it replaces itself.