[Deck] U/G Infect

[Cartesian]

I wanted to test Misdirection when I had the chance, since its too expensive on MTGO. I felt like it might be useful against Eldrazi, actually. I never used it.
Divert is not strong enough, I think.

I sideboarded in Wings a few times but never cast it.
However, after more testing I think the card has some potential.

[Jesture]

I wanted to test Misdirection when I had the chance, since its too expensive on MTGO. I felt like it might be useful against Eldrazi, actually. I never used it.
Divert is not strong enough, I think.

I sideboarded in Wings a few times but never cast it.
However, after more testing I think the card has some potential.

Super interesting choice on the Wings, I'm pretty eager to try them out myself.

Is the tundra supposed to be a savannah? No dazes in the 75, plus the foothills don't fetch tundra.

[Cartesian]

The Wooded Foothills was supposed to be Misty Rainforest, but I forgot to change them before entering the league.
3 Become Immense might be pushing it here. You probably want to test Wings in a more balanced list. Also, beware that the effect is only +3/+3.

[poxy14]

@cartesian: no berserks? that might be your slot for the wings... i might have to try it too (wings), and shave a vine for it.

[Bichon_Blitz]

@cartesian: no berserks? that might be your slot for the wings... i might have to try it too (wings), and shave a vine for it.

No berserk is kinda crazy i agree. It's won too many games for me to cut, in fact i've been thinking about adding a third. The more I think about it, wings only gets a ton of value when cast on glistener elf, otherwise it's a 2cc giant growth which is pretty suboptimal in my opinion.

[Cartesian]

Hey, I am not saying that no Berserk is the way to go, it was just a test run. @Bichon_Blitz you are absolutely right that Wings is just a 2cc giant growth on any other creatures than Elf. However, you might also consider that there are cases when a 2cc, blue, unconditional pump spell is better than a 1cc, nonblue, conditional pump spell.

[Hopo]

Since you people don't seem to mind 2cc cards, giveSimic Charm a chance. It's full of relevant modes and would give access to more powerful maindeck removal than Piracy Charm. I have been on the fence of replacing one Vines with it for the past 12 months or so but then I keep forgetting it exists, plus two mana is just rough. Maybe in Cartesian's Dazeless build?

[echofish]

Keep in mind that Wings of Velis Vel also pumps goyf

[Tristin183]

Keep in mind that Wings of Velis Vel also pumps goyf

I suppose that could only be relevant if goyf is 5/6 and up, but then your ability to kill it is lessened as it has flying.
Wings of Velis Vel is interesting, but It is a little too circumstantial for my desire. There is the plan of aggro creatures like noble though.

[Witch_king_of_angmar]

Yo, Cartesian, just wanted to say your latest list looks sweet. I like wings as an inclusion because I'm always searching for blue pump to up the count for FOW...and 3 become immense may be too much but I think the right build could support it; 2 crop rotation is definitely correct for such a build. Probes would help too. Could a wild defiance/mutagenic growth shell work in legacy like it did at pro tour fate reforged in modern? Wild defiance with berserk is 8 trample damage by itself...also how was maze of ith? I've been testing it against death and taxes with nice results.

[Bichon_Blitz]

Since you people don't seem to mind 2cc cards, giveSimic Charm a chance. It's full of relevant modes and would give access to more powerful maindeck removal than Piracy Charm. I have been on the fence of replacing one Vines with it for the past 12 months or so but then I keep forgetting it exists, plus two mana is just rough. Maybe in Cartesian's Dazeless build?

I feel like simic charm is just a worse vines, which can do two of those modes and do them better with more flexibility if you decide to kick it.

[Hopo]

I feel like simic charm is just a worse vines, which can do two of those modes and do them better with more flexibility if you decide to kick it.

Everybody surely understands that Charm is no Vines but since the discussion went towards 2cc cards, Simic Charm is an obvious mention.

The appeal comes from a) removal, b) being blue and c) still doing roughly the same as Vines. Vines is equally terrible to kick but it counters removal for 1 mana. It's a huge upside so one has to ponder whether having additional flexibility of charm makes it worthwhile. Are the 2.5 cheaper modes of Vines better than 3 more expensive modes of charm?

[shocked439]

Everybody surely understands that Charm is no Vines but since the discussion went towards 2cc cards, Simic Charm is an obvious mention.

The appeal comes from a) removal, b) being blue and c) still doing roughly the same as Vines. Vines is equally terrible to kick but it counters removal for 1 mana. It's a huge upside so one has to ponder whether having additional flexibility of charm makes it worthwhile. Are the 2.5 cheaper modes of Vines better than 3 more expensive modes of charm?

Simic charm should be a consideration for one of your 75 spots yes it does everything vines does at a higher cost, but it can also be a removal spell which unless you run the white splash is something this deck struggles with. I'm not saying it should be an auto include but in evaluating what you need for a particular tourney it should be something you consider.

[poxy14]

Went 2-3 yesterday (24man tourney) with just very unlucky finishes, that could've easily gone 4-1!

0-2 (0-1) BURN
Wasnt able to get any of my invigorates. My permissions are are way late both games.

2-0 (1-1) POX with loam
I was able to counter his initial onlaught of smallpox and hymn, thus getting me 2 quick victories both matches. Here my invigorates showed in 2's and threes!

1-2 (1-2) MUD
Won easily game1. He had an early chalice game 2 and i wasnt able to get my grips. Game 3 wherein he was down to 2 poison, he topdecked a wasteland for pendelhaven, another activation for his ratchet that killed my lone blighted..about 3 more turns he was pouncing on me via lodestone.. inkmoth was my only chance.. didnt draw it : (

2-0 (2-2) OMNITELL
He know i was on infect and on the play he countered my early threats for him to have time to setup, I didnt battle back the permission game so i just waited for him to go off and that's where he got caught. Soon my inkmoths are ravaging the skies. Game 2 he had 4 cards when i probed him.. show, show, emrakul, fow... he had a tapped boseiju...i draw via probe...BAM! crop rotation baby! he countered, i dazed.. and me getting a wasteland! he attempted next turn only to be countered once again.

1-2 (2-3) 4C BLADE
Both games 1 and 2 are grindy, but i managed to win the opener. Game 3 wherein he was down to 1 infect when he brainstormed on his last turn and him getting a NEEDLE to my inkmoth. I have 3 inkmoths on the field with no cards on my hand : ( I never was able to get any artifact hate on my several turns and he was able to stabilize.

Deck is solid, was just short. Played the white splash. I was able to cast INVASIVE SURGERY on the pox player, and removing all his loams via delirium, sweet! I was expecting a grixis/colorless meta so i loaded up on hate vs red, then I met burn and still lost haha!

Helpers:
1 invasive surgery
1 dispel
1 hydroblast
1 absolute law
1 surgical extraction
1 relic progenitus
1 rest in peace
1 seal primordium
2 kgrips
2 pithing needles
1 viridian corrupter
2 stps

[shocked439]

The little infectors took 9th at the SCG classic yesterday. SCG Classic Infect 9th place

This deck has a lot of interesting choice including 8 main deck counter spells (3 daze, 3 force, 2 spell pierce). Only running 2 vines as well (I won't point out the controversial choice in the main). If dean is floating around here it'd be great to hear what he was expecting going into the event and how the deck performed and what he played against.

[Sparkii]

The little infectors took 9th at the SCG classic yesterday. SCG Classic Infect 9th place

This deck has a lot of interesting choice including 8 main deck counter spells (3 daze, 3 force, 2 spell pierce). Only running 2 vines as well (I won't point out the controversial choice in the main). If dean is floating around here it'd be great to hear what he was expecting going into the event and how the deck performed and what he played against.

Is 8 maindeck counters low or out of the ordinary? I play 3 force 3 daze, 2 pierce 1 fluster, so it seems pretty normal.

Green sun with no corrupter main seems a little weird too.

[Bichon_Blitz]

Is 8 maindeck counters low or out of the ordinary? I play 3 force 3 daze, 2 pierce 1 fluster, so it seems pretty normal.

Green sun with no corrupter main seems a little weird too.

I play the same amount of counters and it feels right g1. Combo is laying low right now but I don't feel safe with less than that for storm/show n tell/reanimator.

[Sparkii]

I play the same amount of counters and it feels right g1. Combo is laying low right now but I don't feel safe with less than that for storm/show n tell/reanimator.

Agree. I've also been really happy with the one fluster maindeck. Along with free spells like invigorate it's just insane at times.

[Trei_gamer]

The little infectors took 9th at the SCG classic yesterday. SCG Classic Infect 9th place

This deck has a lot of interesting choice including 8 main deck counter spells (3 daze, 3 force, 2 spell pierce). Only running 2 vines as well (I won't point out the controversial choice in the main). If dean is floating around here it'd be great to hear what he was expecting going into the event and how the deck performed and what he played against.

Yep this was me, I've played this deck in exactly 2 events (around page 30/31 was my first tourney and I won my 50 person event with it), so it appears I've found a good fit for me :).

Since I don't really follow Legacy much I wanted to have a flexible MB, so that's the reason for some of my card choices.

The 2 Spell Pierce (and no Fluster) are to counter Chalice on 1 against Eldrazi. I also feel like they provide the same type of protection as Vines, so that's why I shaved on those.

GSZ w/o Corrupter was just to have a 5th copy of Glistner Elf or Noble Hierarch, or to get ahead on mana with T1 GSZ for Dryad Arbor.

I ran the Jace > Sylvan Library because they seem like they're good in the same spots but Jace pitches to FoW, however I would likely cut this slot all together an run a 2nd Ponder.

The event had a few strange decks at the top tables (as you can see in the top 16), but I had a ton of fun.

Ultimately I expected Eldrazi, Sneak/Show, and Miracles (there is a bunch of this in MN), so I used that information to educate my card-choices.

My matches were:
2-0 Maverick
2-1 Maverick
2-0 Belcher
2-0 Oops, All Spells
0-2 ANT -Caleb Scherer destroyed me
2-0 Belcher
0-2 Esper Death blade -I made some pretty bad mistakes in the match that probably cost me the game, likely due to my unfamiliarity with Legacy. For example, leading on Noble in G2 assuming he would have removal spell then he casts Thoughtseize to take the Elf I have in hand. Maybe this is a bad match up but my play certainly contributed to this loss.

9th was a pretty cool finish because going into the 7th round I couldn't ID despite being at table 3 (TY to Caleb for explaining this to me), so even though I lost, I got the highest placement I could without making top 8.

Let me know if you have any other questions!

[Svyelunite]

Yep this was me, I've played this deck in exactly 2 events (around page 30/31 was my first tourney and I won my 50 person event with it), so it appears I've found a good fit for me :).

Since I don't really follow Legacy much I wanted to have a flexible MB, so that's the reason for some of my card choices.

The 2 Spell Pierce (and no Fluster) are to counter Chalice on 1 against Eldrazi. I also feel like they provide the same type of protection as Vines, so that's why I shaved on those.

GSZ w/o Corrupter was just to have a 5th copy of Glistner Elf or Noble Hierarch, or to get ahead on mana with T1 GSZ for Dryad Arbor.

I ran the Jace > Sylvan Library because they seem like they're good in the same spots but Jace pitches to FoW, however I would likely cut this slot all together an run a 2nd Ponder.

The event had a few strange decks at the top tables (as you can see in the top 16), but I had a ton of fun.

Ultimately I expected Eldrazi, Sneak/Show, and Miracles (there is a bunch of this in MN), so I used that information to educate my card-choices.

My matches were:
2-0 Maverick
2-1 Maverick
2-0 Belcher
2-0 Oops, All Spells
0-2 ANT -Caleb Scherer destroyed me
2-0 Belcher
0-2 Esper Death blade -I made some pretty bad mistakes in the match that probably cost me the game, likely due to my unfamiliarity with Legacy. For example, leading on Noble in G2 assuming he would have removal spell then he casts Thoughtseize to take the Elf I have in hand. Maybe this is a bad match up but my play certainly contributed to this loss.

9th was a pretty cool finish because going into the 7th round I couldn't ID despite being at table 3 (TY to Caleb for explaining this to me), so even though I lost, I got the highest placement I could without making top 8.

Let me know if you have any other questions!

All the Stoneblade matchups are tough, but especially Esper since we can't even screw with their mana and they frequently bring stuff like Zealous Persecution and Lingering Souls to the game. Both of those are tough to beat if we aren't super fast.

Caleb Scherer is a super nice guy. He and I have roomed together a bunch and he knows how to navigate a game where all his opponent has to disrupt is Counterspells (ie Infect) really well. In our practice games I'm like 10-30 That said, Storm is usually a coin-toss anyway so don't beat yourself up over that loss. All of those other matchups should favor you, especially with your MD configuration, so it looks like it went about as expected. Sorry about missing Top 8, but still a good showing, so Congrats!