Hehehe exactly. It is magical christmassland for sure :). Yes sometimes omnitell does a turn 2 blowout or show and tell something in that you cant deal with.Originally Posted by RhoxWarMonk
This is my experience as well, I just can't beat blade decks -- like, at all, unless I have the nut draw. Even in magical Christmasland I still struggle against decks running TNN/Strix/Stoneforge, literally the worst deck against us -- so much worse than Lands or DnT.
That said, I'm 3-0 against Omni and 1-0 against High Tide. I don't find Omni that much of an issue at all but perhaps they just didn't "have it". One time I did counter their S&T with a Warping Wail though, that felt GOOD!They didn't even bother with protection (or rather, didn't have it) since they weren't playing around WW.
Are you still on the same list Noloam? The "more aggressive" version your buddy is playing, do you happen to have a link? I couldn't seem to find it on mtgtop8. Cheers!
My list should be on mtggoldfish today. I changed
-2 thorn main
+1 spirit guide
+ endbringer
Side:
-1 discoball (im gonna mis this baby :()
-1 endbringer
+2 thorn
Last edited by Noloam_; 07-14-2016 at 09:51 AM.
Eldrazi stompy list: http://www.mtggoldfish.com/player/noloam
sideboard guide can be found on page 84
I approached esper with a lot of prayer :). he kept a hand with 5 land stoneforge and DRS. i had TKS. so i had that going for me. i believe chalice and TKS did the trick game 2. without TKS that match is just terrible.
the aggoloam match is one of the matches were i find Leyline very important. one of the reasons that i will never switch to cage,relic etc. if you keep the Knights small, the punish fires in exile and blank loam. you have a whole different ballgame. i ofcourse cut the 4 chalices, because the lack 1 drops
5-0 today:
grixis delver
omnitell
sneaky show
mavrick
miracles
Last edited by Noloam_; 07-14-2016 at 09:19 AM.
Eldrazi stompy list: http://www.mtggoldfish.com/player/noloam
sideboard guide can be found on page 84
might of been me!
i've been playing a more aggressive shell online, i liked white for displacer going over the top in the mirror, but crucible locking w/ a full set of wastelands has been good. going to test the baskilisks collars in the board and run more endbreakers, chalice comes out in the mirror anyhow.
Would you mind posting your current list please?
4 Ancient Tomb
4 Cavern of Souls
4 Chalice of the Void
4 Eldrazi Mimic
4 Eldrazi Temple
4 Endless One
3 Eye of Ugin
4 Reality Smasher
4 Thought-Knot Seer
4 Wasteland
3 Thorn of Amethyst
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
2 Simian Spirit Guide
2 Dismember
2 Warping Wail
2 Endbringer
1 Karakas
2 Crystal Vein
4 Matter Reshaper
2 Mishra's Factory
SB: 2 Pithing Needle
SB: 2 Ratchet Bomb
SB: 1 Sphere of Resistance
SB: 4 Leyline of the Void
SB: 1 All Is Dust
SB: 1 Umezawa's Jitte
SB: 2 Endbringer
SB: 2 Basilisk Collar
crystals are a budget call, and the list is always changing, at least one line. on paper is different. I haven't liked the color splashes yet. tend to lose aggression and lose to mana screw. I'm thinking noloam is writer and aggressive and explosive is probably the best way to go, perhaps adding more simians.
Why the 1 sphere side instead of thorn? If you are a budget player, just run 4 eyes for sure
i do like the karakas main. i am pondering so much about karakas main. It will buy me another sideboard slot. but the card is akward sometimes mainboard(i have tested it)
Last edited by Noloam_; 07-15-2016 at 06:23 PM.
Eldrazi stompy list: http://www.mtggoldfish.com/player/noloam
sideboard guide can be found on page 84
Isn't this barook's list?
mtgtop8.com
1st/106 players.
It is. Wasn't me, but well, that's nice.
almost have grinded out enough tickects for the cities, got them on paper though. i run the sphere so i can have multiple targets for wipe away effects, but i really think if i'm gonna run sphere effects i want a total access to 6 and a full set of wastelands. I like the karakas in the main, it frees up a slot from the side board and it has just won me too many games vs show and tell and reanimator(which i'm running into more of lately) game 1. end bringer has been a total house and he needs more attention. tonight i'm going to bring my list closer to yours and run another league tomorrow.
I tried the Blue/White list from GP Prague for game night this week. Games didn't last long enough to be able to get a decent report.
Round 1 vs ANT
Both games blew out due to chalice and TKS
Round 2 vs Tin Fins
Game 1 I got him with Chalice and TKS followed by a smasher
Game 2 I mull into Revoker, thorn, chalice, double faerie macabre, Easily got there
Round 3 vs UR Prowess
Game 1 I just went faster, nothing special, never got priced
Game 2 This game having Skyspawner as a blocker saved me, thats really the only thing special
Going to test it some more for fun, I have a while before any big events come up. Have been experimenting with various builds. Tried main deck thorn for the first time. Won me games but I wasn't happy playing it, does that make sense?
List for Reference
Creature (26)
3 Endless One
3 Phyrexian Revoker
4 Eldrazi Displacer
3 Eldrazi Skyspawner
1 Phyrexian Metamorph
4 Thought-Knot Seer
4 Reality Smasher
3 Drowner of Hope
1 Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger
Instant (2)
2 Warping Wail
Artifact (6)
2 Lotus Petal
4 Chalice of the Void
Land (26)
2 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
2 Tendo Ice Bridge
4 Eldrazi Temple
4 Corrupted Crossroads
3 City of Traitors
4 Ancient Tomb
3 Eye of Ugin
4 Cavern of Souls
60 Cards
Sideboard (15)
1 World Breaker
1 All Is Dust
1 Ratchet Bomb
3 Relic of Progenitus
1 Pithing Needle
3 Thorn of Amethyst
2 Dismember
2x Faerie Macabre
1x Caltrops
Yes it makes sense. I also cutted the thorns since a long time. The meta needs another approach
Eldrazi stompy list: http://www.mtggoldfish.com/player/noloam
sideboard guide can be found on page 84
Agreed, a Presidential Candidate actually said what we should be doing to the format. We need to make this format great again!
https://youtu.be/rSFZktZNySg?t=6s
Vanderwall's build is crazy aggressive and feels like it floods a lot more than usual. 25 lands and more than 4 guides. I love the Lodestone Golems in the list.
Do you have a decklist handy? :)
http://mtgtop8.com/event?e=13017&d=275956&f=LE
Thanks for covering that.
There are 2 vanderwall lists posted on that one. I checked mtggoldfish and the list posted there was 1 ESG and 3 Thorns.
I can't say that I disagree with the uber-aggressive approach. In the play and play-testing I've done online, the more aggressive draws are the ones I win more consistently. If I 'pause' or use a full turn to make a control or delay move, the tempo lost is almost too much to overcome.
I went the other way, too, and I've actually built a prison-type stax (back to the white stax builds I played with years ago) that uses TKS for additional disruption. I think I have more success separating the two strategies - aggressive and disruptive. Both can work, but trying to combine them, I've found, stumbles on itself.
Guess nobody supports Garrison like I do
I've been running two cryptolith fragments over the two ratchet bombs in the sideboard, and boy are they putting in work. Not only does it act as a mana source vs bloodmoon and back2basics for your displacers and world breakers, it doubles as a win con by itself. It slow pings while ramping mana. The only issue vs miracles is that your life will be so high from swords that it will never flip. When it flips, it does 4 a turn through the air and gets through gofy and moats and easily finishes the game. It blocks delver if you get into a race situation. The only scenario I wanted ratchet over the fragments have been vs elves. I haven't ran into a scenario yet where miracles drops a bunch of entreats on me that I couldn't clear up with all is dust instead. I've even had an opportunity to kill a griselbrand with it at one point.
@Lodestone Golem: I went and sleeved up 4 Lodestone Golems last FNM, putting them in the SB. He won the games where the opponent just can't remove him. That 1 mana taxing effect made a huge difference between the Elves match up being able to combo off or casting Natural Order, or Infect putting in a lot of poisons. Against Reanimator, he didn't mattered, and against Grixis Delver he just ate a bolt. The hands also didn't feel too akward even if your eldrazis are getting taxed too because of the lots of sol lands in the deck (I ran the full package of City of Traitors, and still sticking at 3 Eyes). I'll be sticking him in my colorless list for now.
Aside from that, I see two other different eldrazi builds moving forward. The white eldrazi is a given, and I'm seeing blue eldrazi as a possibility.
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