I have just beaten 3 Miracles decks in a row using this list:
4 Delver of Secrets
4 Deathrite Shaman
3 Young Pyromancer
2 Gurmag Angler
2 True-Name Nemesis
4 Brainstorm
4 Ponder
3 Gitaxian Probe
4 Daze
4 Force of Will
4 Lightning Bolt
2 Cabal Therapy
2 Dismember
3 Volcanic Island
3 Underground Sea
1 Tropical Island
4 Flooded Strand
4 Polluted Delta
3 Wasteland
Sideboard
2 Pyroblast
2 Winter Orb
2 Ancient Grudge
2 Invasive Surgery
2 Forked Bolt
2 Painful Truths
1 Cabal Therapy
1 Surgical Extraction
1 Umezawa's Jitte
My plan vs Miracles is this:
Out: 2 Daze, 2 Lightning Bolt, 2 Dismember, 1 Gitaxian Probe, 1 Underground Sea (maybe this should be Wasteland or something else)
In: 2 Painful Truths, 2 Pyroblast, 2 Winter Orb, 2 Invasive Surgery
Ended up 4-1 in that league. Lost to Julian23 by a narrow margin (won game 1, game 2 ended with him effectively at 1, and g3 I didn't stand a chance), but aside from the 3 Miracles decks I beat a BUG delver 2-1 as well.
Just played another 4-1:
4c Loam: 2-0
BUG Shardless: 2-1
Miracles: 2-0
BR Reanimator: 1-2
Death And Taxes: 2-1
The D&T g3 was one of the most ridiculously swingy games I have ever played. I am still surprised I won, I got him to 4, took several batterskull hits, eventually managed to assemble a small army and then get a jitte online, dealt with multiple stoneforges and cast 3 Ancient Grudges (1 normal 2 with flashback), none of which actually destroyed batterskull.
This was a case of some extremely timely draws for both myself and my opponent. I played a TNN when he was at 4 and had batterskull in play, only for him to follow that up with a council's judgment. I also misplayed by fetching my Trop too early, and it got wasted so I couldn't flash back by grudges until I got a DRS online. Very tight match.
Top 8ed an EE6 Legacy Sattelite with the same list as was used in my SCG Baltimore Open Top 8. Will post a report sometime within the next 2 or 3 days.
How has Jitte been for everybody? I am not a fan of the card, but it's one of the few options that hits Eldrazi, D&T, Elves and the mirror.
It's been pretty good for me, but i would really prefer fire covenant. Nothing cleans up eldrazi/d&t/elves/maverick better, not to mention completely turning the tables in the mirror from behind.
Fire Covenant can be hard to resolve, and there are times when three mana or life is an issue. Furthermore, it's very awkward to topdeck after you have spent removal on their creatures. I like it a lot against Elves, but not against Delver/Eldrazi/D&T
Then again, the mana issue is true for Jitte too. Jitte is also vulnerable to Decay.
Twice during GP Chiba I had a Pithing Needle come down on my Jitte and it just slowed the games down so hard. Digging for my Ancient Grudge (these were D&T and Shardless BUG matches) resulted in nothing but wasting more time and I drew both of those matches.
The Young Pyromancer and Cabal Therapy thing happened maybe once or twice and even then there were often Brainstorm activations which left me feeling cold to it all. Maybe versus D&T when they second turn search for Batterskull and it's like "Yay, I know what you have in hand." But Probe and Therapy never felt that great to have.
Could be misplays on my part, but I'm not feeling love for the Therapy package main.
If you are disliking the Therapy/Probe package maybe you can be my test subject :P
I brewed this up today
4 Delver of Secrets
4 Deathrite Shaman
3 Young Pyromancer/Snapcaster Mage
2 Baleful Strix
2 True-Name Nemesis
4 Brainstorm
4 Ponder
4 Daze
4 Force of Will
4 Lightning Bolt
3 Hymn to Tourach
2 Liliana of the Veil
1 Kolaghan's Command/Crosis' Charm/Swingy 3 mana thing (Fire Covenant)
3 Underground Sea
2 Badlands
1 Volcanic Island
1 Tropical Island
4 Scalding Tarn
4 Polluted Delta
1 Bloodstained Mire
4 Wasteland
Pick your own sideboard.
I have been experimenting with different builds and sideboards, and here are my thoughts lately:
1) You definitely want Winter Orb vs Miracles. I tried cutting it for multiple Pithing Needles and added Decays to the board ala FGC from magic online, but it just didn't get the job done the same way.
2) My win % is still the highest with the 2 TNN 2 Dismember list. I tried playing 4th probe and pierce in their place, but I am for sure set on 2 TNN. It just does pretty much everything I want. What I am not sure about is the sideboard.
Anyone else testing at the moment?
The definition of tilt: losing to Storm after surgicalling all of their tendrils and having them naturally draw their 1 empty the warrens when you have untapped DRS and FOW backup.
http://www.blackmagicgaming.com/high...-flip-delvers/
Write up for the Sattelite that I promised to post. I thought I already posted it but apparently not.
Hi Guys,
I would like to know what are the worst match up for grixis delver ?
Miracle ? D&T ? Shardless (no I don't think) ?
In my experience, Lands, Miracles and big mana decks (aggro loam, nic fit) are our worse matchupsOriginally Posted by MinosSnt
It depends on how good you are and how your deck is built. Lands and Miracles are commonly cited as bad match-ups, but I find them close to even if my opponent is good and favorable if they are not. The biggest upside to Delver is that you have the best sideboard in the format because you can play hate cards that are far more powerful than your opponents and because you have cantrips to find them.
Currently, the decks I'm most scared to face are UR Burn Delver, Eldrazi (only low to the ground lists built to beat Delver) and BG Depths (my SB is pretty bad here). D&T, Elves, Miracles, Lands, BR Reanimator and the Delver mirror are all close-ish, but again this all depends on your SB and playskill.
Hey guys!
I'm currently working on a BUG Delver deck and would like to see exactly how my slower removal in Abrupt Decay affects my games against Grixis Delver. I've tuned the deck to be faster than the average BUG deck (no Goyfs, Bobs).
Does anybody have the "Noah" Grixis Delver list on MtGO and would like to jam some games with me? I'm Agrippa91 on MtGO, just add me. I'll propably be on the next hours...
Hi guys!
I just made 5-2-1 in a 54 player tournament resulting in a 3rd place finish. I feel comfortable with the main deck but still have trouble shaping a correct sideboard for my meta. I would say it is varied but there's a strong tendency to play stoneforge mystic and B/G/x decks along with chalice of the void and creature based decks like elves or d&t. I would really appreciate some comments on what you think about it.
3 Flooded Strand
3 Polluted Delta
2 Scalding Tarn
3 Volcanic island
2 Underground Sea
1 Tropical Island
4 Wasteland
4 Delver of Secrets
4 Deathrite Shaman
3 Young Pyromancer
2 Gurmag Angler
4 Stifle
4 Lightning Bolt
1 Forked Bolt
4 Force of Will
4 Daze
4 Brainstorm
4 Ponder
3 Gitaxian Probe
1 Bitterblossom
SB
3 Cabal Therapy
2 Surgical Extraction
2 Pyroblast
2 Abrupt Decay
1 Invasive Surgery
1 Ancient Grudge
1 Sulfuric Vortex
1 Electrickery
1 Izzet Staticaster
1 Pithing Needle
Matches
Food chain 2-0
Game 1 I stifled him out and killed with delver. Game 2 wasteland out of game with delver and daze backup.
12 Post 2-0
I had explosive hands and stifled his expedition maps.
Miracles 1-1
I win game 1 putting early pressure and managing my threat order afterwards, stifled 2 terminus. Game 2 he had enough removal and i lost to late game. Game 3 he played slow on purpose once he realized he was falling behind. He took forever resolving brainstorms just to deal with my pithing needle while my shamans did the job. He drew a councils judgement that saved him a turn and i wasnt able to kill him in turn 5...
Deathblade 1-2
Win game 1 easy. Game 2 i keep 1 land, stifle his fetchland and he follows with wasteland to my only volcanic. Pretty risky on his side but it paid off, I never saw a land again. Game 3 gets grindy and of course his late game draws are devastating.
Elves 2-0
Game 1 i create a* 2 delver clock with fow backup and wasteland that takes out cradle and wins. Game 2 i see bolt, decay and establish a fast clock while i kill his insect and quirion ranger.
Shardless 2-1
I win game 1 with my mana denial plan. Game 2 gets grindy and he pulls ahead after resolving* ancestral recall and i loose. Game three is very close but i manage to pull ahead thanks to bitterblossom and abrupt decay.
Top 8
Deathblade 2-0
Same deck that beat me in round 4. Game 1 i probe and see a devastating hand and dont think i can win . I play delver , pass, flip , draw another delver, play ponder and eventually race him just in time before he can play all the bombs in his hand. Game 2 gets grindy as hell but cabal therapy puts me ahead and i start making faerie rogues and controlling my life total with two shamans. He manages to get rid of them and put some pressure but the faeries and a bolt finish the job with me at 1 life.
B/W Lingering Souls 0-2
Very disappointing match. Heavy discard, a lot of removal, stoneforge and tokens. I mulliganed both games and played a weak game. Upset my meta call cards like izzet stati and electrickery didnt show up, any would have won me game 2.
I'm pretty satisfied even though i know the SB is a bit sloppy.
Thanks for reading and helping out with* any suggestions!
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Is this you,Bob?if so,how were the 2 sideboard ghost quarter?has anyone else tried ghost quarter?
He mentioned them on stream which you should definitely check, here he's playing this month's Legacy challenge on MtGO: https://www.twitch.tv/griselpuff/v/106567448
He said that overall the card is too swingy. He really only wanted it against Eldrazi (he has like an 80% win rate in the mirror) but there it's only good on the play where you're favored anyways.
Yeah for now I don't want it. It's almost always good against Lands and 4C Loam, but it's iffy against Delver/Eldrazi. Removal is better for the latter two match-ups and targeted hate is better for the first two.
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