I have the inmpression that some adaption may be needed now that Storm is nearly gone and decks like Elves are on the rise.Originally Posted by Serapha
Eldrazi Displacer (and the Karakas you might play to play it) give you a good BR Reanimator matchup as well as a much better matchup vs. Lands (Displacer vs. Marit Lage) and vs. Show & Tell in return for a loss in explosivity (if you e.g. replace some Matter Reshapers with it)
Oblivion Sower gives you a better matchup against grindy decks and slightly better Lands matchup, while Endbringer gives you a better vs. Show & Tell, Lands and Elves.
But much more to the point: The leagues may vary wildly, but as long as Eldrazi has a solid Miracles matchup the deck should be viable to play in any larger tournament.
Here is the deck that I have played lately:
4x Ancient Tomb
4x Cavern of Souls
3x City of Traitors
4x Eldrazi Temple
4x Eye of Ugin
2x Karakas
2x Plains
2x Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
1x Dismember
2x Warping Wail
4x Eldrazi Displacer
4x Eldrazi Mimic
4x Endless One
3x Oblivion Sower
4x Reality Smasher
4x Thought-Knot Seer
4x Chalice of the Void
3x Lotus Petal
2x Umezawa's Jitte
Sideboard
2x All Is Dust
2x Confusion in the Ranks
4x Leyline of the Void
2x Spatial Contortion
4x Thorn of Amethyst
1x Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger
About the Confusion in the Ranks: We specifically have some Omni/S&T players at our LGS and those could well be some removal spalls (Dismember), Orzhov Pontiffs or Disenchants.
Chalice on 1
i have not played eldrazi for a few weeks. went 4-1 today. i still think the deck is ''ok'', not the best not the worst.
Eldrazi stompy list: http://www.mtggoldfish.com/player/noloam
sideboard guide can be found on page 84
I think the format is catching on. It'll rotate around for sure. I switched back to big red for a bit, get those free blood moon wins.
for sure. a lot of delver somehow.
i went 7-2 today overal. still have to finish my last round.
Eldrazi stompy list: http://www.mtggoldfish.com/player/noloam
sideboard guide can be found on page 84
I 5-0'ed 3 days ago
Miracles 2-0
Enchantress 2-0
Mirror 2-0
Lands 2-1
D&T 2-1
And then got wrecked next league by two Aluren and a Shardless player, beating Angler Delver and Grixis Delver.
There's a ton of Aluren running around right now, which means lots of Baleful strix, its truly and awful matchup. Not to mention plenty of Elves players too...
I may play something else for a while until people calm down with their BUG decks packing Strix and DRS.
true that. aluren is also beating me up a lot :(
Eldrazi stompy list: http://www.mtggoldfish.com/player/noloam
sideboard guide can be found on page 84
I'm trying this MB +2 Endbringers +1 Eldrazi Dispalcer //// -2 Oblivion Sowers, -1 Endless One
SB:
1 Karakas
1 Pithing Needle
1 Warping Wail
2 All is dust
2 Spine of Ish Sah
4 Leyline of the Void
4 Thorn of Amethyst
So, just wanna say thanks for the list. Been following this thread for a little while so It can help me understand some of the designs a little better. Went to a win a dual the other day with your guy's list but with one alteration and went 3 -1 -1 into the top 8. sadly knocked out in the first round of swiss but I still got a Plateau though which was cool. Went with Darkness's list but changed the Ulamog out for a Mockery of Nature. In testing I have never been able to cast Ulamog, always getting stuck on nine mana but Mockery is slightly cheaper and gives you an out to back to basics, moon, moat and ensnaring bridge. Also changes the Simian Spirit guides to Elvish spirit guides just in case I needed to Emerge it.
Rounds went
2 - 0 vs miracles
0 - 2 vs lands (despite having chalice on one, chalice on three and a turn zero leyline, he just had the dark depths combo in hand)
2 - 0 vs elves
2 - 0 vs Esper deathblade
0 -0 - 3 Intentional draw with a friend.
Then 0 - 2 vs Maverick in the top Eight
Sorry for temporary hiatus, I have been busy with other things, I will be prepping for Grand Prix Louisville in the next coming weeks and will be posting my 200 match results in a week or two and analysis of what I'm going to do going into the GP.
I am looking forward to this.
Now Playing:
Dark depths
Reanimator
MUD
Disclaimer: The above person does not claim to have knowledge pertaining to the following subject: anything. Thus, said person may not be held liable for any mishaps/explosions that his advice incurs.
The leagues have gotten so hostile. One 0-3 drop and one 2-3 today :/
Miracles (Entreat version): 0-2 (just had FOW everytime I tried to do something that mattered and had a Terminus on top every time he needed it).
Aluren: 1-2 (won g1, g2 and 3 just got alurened/raced with DRS)
Dredge: 1-2 (g3 he had double nature's claim for double leyline and then faithless looting LED flashback kills me a turn later basically).
This seemed like some pretty bad luck.
Other league went like this:
BUG Delver: 1-2
BUG Delver: 2-1
Storm: 1-2
4c Delver: 2-0
Food Chain: 0-2
I am now $24 poorer and can't play until I get paid again :(
So, I had an extra treasure chest that I had forgotten about. I sold that for queue tix (I'm a junkie I know), and I have since gone 2-0 twice, first against infect, then against sneak and show.
I have been keeping track of all of my matches in a spreadsheet, and so far I am 82-77 in games, and 35-31 in matches for a MW% of ~53.
I am doing the best vs Miracles, Shardless BUG (win 75% of the time), Grixis Delver, ANT (win 66% of the time) 4c Delver (TNN Snapcaster List), which I have only played 2 matches against but have yet to lose.
I am struggling the most with Aluren, BUG Delver, Food Chain, and Deathblade/Esperblade/Junkblade (all less than 40%)
An interesting thing about my data is that I have no problems with Shardless, but it's sister decks Food Chain, Aluren, and BUG Delver all cause me problems. Small sample size though, just thought I'd share :)
After playing a few more matches I have updated my sideboard (main is stock)
4 Leyline of the Void
4 Thorn of Amethyst
2 All is Dust
2 Ratchet Bomb
2 Pithing Needle
1 Karakas
Beat cloudpost and lost to turbo depths so far after the change. Anyone else having an experience to share?
My Sideboard is currently the following:
4 Leyline of the Void
4 Thorn of Amethyst
2 All is Dust
I feel this is really the core. I then play, to round it out.
3 Confusion of the Ranks
1 Endbringer
1 Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger
Nothing here I'd really change - the Endbringer slot has been tinkered with a bit over a while but there isn't anything else I really want here outside maybe adding a Pithing Needle.
Obviously I don't take any credit for it, it's noloam's build.
Played another league today:
Eldrazi: 0-2 (My build is pretty weak in the mirror, many dead cards)
BUG Delver: 0-2
Sneak and Show: 0-2
UR Delver: 2-0
Oops all Spells: 2-1
2nd league
BUG Delver: 1-2
Sneak and Show: 1-2
I don't understand how anyone beats bug delver ever with this deck. I think I am going to remove 2 pithing needles for 2 endbringers.
yeah it's very difficult to beat bug belver，and other bgx matchups are even worse，food chain is the most difficult among them，then shardless，then bug delver. They have a lot of threat against us，and don't afraid of our lock pieces cause of decay.
I don't normally post, usually because I don't have anything useful to contribute. However, inspired by a previous poster, I went through 3 months of games to compile a list of match up results, for your guidance.
Results are saved on this spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
copy/paste the summary of results:
deck wins total win pct
rug delver 4 5 80%
deathblade 7 8 88%
grixis delver 4 9 44%
storm 8 11 73%
red painter 1 3 33%
4C Delver 4 5 80%
Lands 4 10 40%
miracles 14 21 67%
infect 2 3 67%
reanimator 9 15 60%
eldrazi 2 8 25%
UR delver 5 5 100%
UR pyromancer 0 1 0%
goblins 1 1 100%
shardless bug 7 10 70%
turbodrazi 0 1 0%
jund 0 1 0%
belcher 2 2 100%
omnitell 2 3 67%
dredge 3 5 60%
hexdepths 1 1 100%
oops all spells 1 1 100%
elves 4 7 57%
tezzerator 3 3 100%
mudpost 1 1 100%
nicfit 3 3 100%
bug delver 5 9 56%
4c lands 1 1 100%
death and taxes 2 6 33%
food chain 2 2 100%
esper blade 3 3 100%
burn 1 2 50%
faeries 0 1 0%
aluren 2 2 100%
merfolk 1 1 100%
enchantress 1 2 50%
grixis titi 1 1 100%
sneak and show 2 5 40%
win percent of the deck is 63% vs. the field, and I should clarify I'm a lousy player, so that reflects the deck more than my skills.
I hope this is of use to any of you!
Hello fellow colorless mages,
I am here to report in on my 200 match results, fitting as this is my 200th post on MtG The Source. I have gone back to NoLoam's original 75, I played about 40 matches with a Batterskull and Hangerback Walker, neither impressed me. Played around with the extra Oblivion Sower and Ulamog for the Miracles MU, never cast Ulamog. I am still not 100% satisfied on the Sideboard and am considering Noloam's Spine of Ish for the Show and Tell Decks, mirror and the Miracles match up but I need to test it more. Here is the list and some notable information from my testing.
Creatures (25)
4 Matter Reshaper
4 Endless One
4 Eldrazi Mimic
4 Reality Smasher
4 Thought-Knot Seer
3 Simian Spirit Guide
2 Oblivion Sower
Artifacts (6)
4 Chalice of the Void
2 Umezawa's Jitte
Spells (4)
2 Dismember
2 Warping Wail
Lands (25)
4 Ancient Tomb
4 Cavern of Souls
4 Eldrazi Temple
4 Eye of Ugin
3 Mishra's Factory
3 Wasteland
2 City of Traitors
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
Sideboard (15)
4 Thorn of Amethyst
4 Leyline of the Void
2 All Is Dust
2 Ratchet Bomb
1 Endbringer
1 Karakas
1 Pithing Needle
Most Popular Decks and their results for those who won't look at the spreadsheet, link is in my signature.
Miracles: 21 Matches 76% Win
Delver (All variants): 20 Matches 55% Win
Shardless BUG: 14 Matches 65% Win
Reanimator (All variants): 14 Matches 86% Win
Stoneblade (All variants): 13 Matches 77% Win
Storm (All variants): 13 Matches 77% Win
Eldrazi (All variants): 11 Matches 55% Win
Lands: 10 Matches 50% Win
Death and Taxes: 8 Matches 50% Win
Elves: 7 Matches 71% Win
With the data I've collected, I feel confident against the field based on my results. The deck's biggest weakness is mana disruption, fast combo, Tarmogoyf and bad decision making. If anyone has suggestions for the sideboard I would love to hear in a private message. I am extremely happy with the Main Deck.
Also, wanted to thank Noloam for all the hard work he put into the deck and this thread. He has given me the proper foundation to understand how to succeed with this new archetype in the diverse wonderland we call Legacy
Have casted Ulamog a few times vs Miracles and he has been great. The only complain about Newlamog is that a countered one stays in the GY instead of being reshuffled
I tweaked my MD to use ESG instead of SSG. Mostly to accommodate the 1 off World Breaker in the side, which has gotten numerous annoyances like Blood Moon, Humility, Ensnaring Bridge & even Baleful Strix off the table. 4 Caverns & 3 ESG for 7 sources of G felt reliable enough.
As for the Storm matchup I am at about 60%. Losses are mostly due to die rolls and getting a beating from a lot of goblins.
You keep in ESG in the miracles MU? In Noloam and my Sb guide you take them out as you want a high density of threats. ESG&SSG gives you fewer threats. I guess the argument of blowing out Miracles with one of their Bomb cards against us works, but what if they have two
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