[Podcast] Everyday Eternal: The Brainstorm Blues

[TheInfamousBearAssassin]

Reading is tech :

"Three Steps Forward, and Two Steps Back: North American Defeatism and the Dominance of Brainstorm," a rebuttal by Everyday Eternal host Matt Pavlic.

Look at the current decks in the Legacy metagame on a world scale – where did they originate? Who designed them? Where were decks tuned and popularized? Miracles, Shardless BUG, Imperial Painter, Patriot Delver, Elves, Death and Taxes, Nic Fit, OmniTell, and others are all European creations or saw many more finishes in Europe before people caught on in America.

Wow, you're right! Reading is tech!

[Barook]

The latter is pretty demonstrably wrong by virtue of the fact that almost all of the top tier decks have originated in the US.

Could you list all of said decks including their creator, then?

All I can see in regard to that topic so far is alot of hyperbole and dickwaving without concrete data. Since I assume you have said data, showcase them and we can all be happy.

[Matsaya]

"Three Steps Forward, and Two Steps Back: North American Defeatism and the Dominance of Brainstorm," a rebuttal by Everyday Eternal host Matt Pavlic.

Look at the current decks in the Legacy metagame on a world scale – where did they originate? Who designed them? Where were decks tuned and popularized? Miracles, Shardless BUG, Imperial Painter, Patriot Delver, Elves, Death and Taxes, Nic Fit, OmniTell, and others are all European creations or saw many more finishes in Europe before people caught on in America.

Wow, you're right! Reading is tech!

Wow, you're right! Reading is tech!

[Phelix]

havent heard the cast yet.

havent read any posts.

just wanted to say.


GOOD JOB ON THE LANDS THERE!

[TheInfamousBearAssassin]

Wow, you're right! Reading is tech!

And we know which the author means because they then go on to say that only a few decks are American (wrongly.) Hey, guess what, conversational implicature exists, isn't that a load off everyone's mind?

Could you list all of said decks including their creator, then?

All I can see in regard to that topic so far is alot of hyperbole and dickwaving without concrete data. Since I assume you have said data, showcase them and we can all be happy.

There's a lot of discussion about it in this thread.

[nedleeds]

Efficient white creatures with oppressive mana denial was built by James Wong at the Georgia Tech student center food courts in 1994. None of you invented anything. You just had the free time to post it on a message board, write a primer and answer dumb questions.

[Barook]

There's a lot of discussion about it in this thread.

That's extremely vague since people attribute it to different people. And what are "almost all top decks", as you claim it?

[Dragonslayer_90]

When I listened to this podcast and Koby was talking about Hoogland's style as a competitive player, I was waiting for him to call him a scrub. Then it never happened. I guess Mr. Kory's more classy when it comes discussions with voice But either way, I don't think of Mr Hoogland as a pure spike. I think he's got a good amount of Johnny in him as well as he tends to gravitate towards rogue and/or non-tier one strategies. What he plays in modern, UR Delver, is Tier 1.5 at best. I'm guessing he's frustrated with legacy because he feels like he cannot actually play below Tier 1 decks and expect to win.

[Koby]

GOOD JOB ON THE LANDS THERE!

I did use your list as a model. (No Thickets, Smokestack) Never played Miracles so Smokestack was not exercised, and for that I was sad.

When I listened to this podcast and Koby was talking about Hoogland's style as a competitive player, I was waiting for him to call him a scrub. Then it never happened. I guess Mr. Kory's more classy when it comes discussions with voice But either way, I don't think of Mr Hoogland as a pure spike. I think he's got a good amount of Johnny in him as well as he tends to gravitate towards rogue and/or non-tier one strategies. What he plays in modern, UR Delver, is Tier 1.5 at best. I'm guessing he's frustrated with legacy because he feels like he cannot actually play below Tier 1 decks and expect to win.

I don't think Mr Hoogland is a Scrub, but rather his playstyle lends to scrub decisions and mindsets (deck selection, setting up walls to limit his potential, ideas about competitiveness, etc). He is a skilled player with a very specific way to approach Magic formats. Given enough motivation to go beyond these limitations, he could conceivably be a Pro Tour caliber player. I do find the irony of his strong mathematics background and his frustration with variance in the game of Magic to be quite comical.

[Teveshszat]

Hello,

for funy German Names of magic cards there was also the Spirit Monger called Röhrender Reliops which makes Sens when you read it from the back
as Rörhender Spoiler or the good old Samenschaukel Hexe which is called Seedcradle Witch in English.

for the podcast a whole I like it and think it is a good start in showing were the problem really liy in our Legacy Metagame.

Best Regards Teveshszat