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how good is the new companion SB cat in this deck? he gives +2 storm for free. while he is probably better in ANT and TES than this, I think...

Look on the bright side, you can now make aged cheese with the right food token.

What would their cost be? Would you have to track where they came from and apply the proper cumulative upkeep ability?

But it only limits permanents in construction so you can still play Force!

Snap, Kroxa, Pyro, Thalia, Vial, Chalice, EE, Omen of the Sea (not Legacy relevant), Standstill, that flippy Kraken Horror thing, 'Goyf, Death's...

Would Grixis decks run Kroxa to combo with it? Edit: You could also recycle Ballista over and over again with it, which is kinda nice.

Yes. Many of these creatures are designed to be mutated over and over. Basically one creature will be on top, and that will define the name, CMC,...

Rit, this, recast some cantrips and Ice-Fang, and call it a day. :laugh: A true hero goes Rit, Cat -> turn 2 double Sinkhole. Aw nvm....only...

Ok, so I t1 LED this onto the battlefield. Now what?

Based on what the card says (so without rules) it won't fall off, and the land will just have some useless triggered ability. Then when you animate...

In Legacy it's a 2x probably in DnT or Grixs 'mancer. In Standard cycling decks it's a 4x, same with Pioneer. (The companion kitty I mean)

Wouldn't try that even if it had trample. Need 2 cards without manipulation or protection.

4x is probaby too much for it. @Fox: Is this a wincon for Fluctuator decks? T1: Land, Fox T2: Land, Fluctuator, cycle until you're good.

Yes :smile:

Forget Companion, you just put that in your deck as a regular creature x4 and enjoy the valuetown. Also, this is the single best Cycling card...

It's seperate from the starting deck, so you can cast it. I've missed that you can run it as a regular card in your deck as well. That gets rid...

Don’t think you can play that card in not-commander b/c it’s cmc is >2 and it can’t start outside your deck (in command zone)???

As I understand it, it stays on the Factory, but wouldn't the mutated mods be lost once you animate it? How does this work? Edit: I don't...

Wait, can we just play it in the main and ignore the deckbuilding restrictions? Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk

To put it simply, only the 'top of the stack' creature 'exists' so only it can be targeted, mutated stuff underneath it are treated as extra buffs...

I guess it blocks Lilly too, so that makes it harder Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk

Ok. So it would take some readjustment for anyone playing persecutor or regisaur. But this card is worth looking at building around Sent from my...

Another simple question - can a creature be mutated several times? Creature A mutated by creatures B, C, and D? When creature A dies, creatures B,...

damn, that's BS... i was hoping for a new way to grind.

So what is the deal with mutate: -I put it under animated Factory, and pass turn...does it fall off? -Opponent has Decay (can't hit Factory), can...

Yeah, age counters don't confer an upkeep cost unless that mechanic is printed on card. @Barook I'm sure there are things to do. At worst you can...

I'm pretty sure Age counters don't do anything unless the permanent has Cumulative Upkeep though.

Not sure if you're joking or not, but what would age counters do on permanents without CU? Nothing, unless I'm mistaken here.

putting age counters on your opponent's permanents is a win con...

Thanks for the write-up, that's an interesting build, somewhere between classic Rg and Turbo Depths! Just some thoughts, what do you think about...