[Deck] Berserk Stompy

[NecroYawgmoth]

4 Tormod's Crypt
4 Mindbreak Trap
4 Vexing Shusher
3 Seeds of Innocence

[Pltnmngl]

Would you recommend that sideboard for an unknown meta or just GP?

[NecroYawgmoth]

...for an unkonwn meta.

I don't like to change my Sideboard every week/month, and think, this is the best ~allaround-setup~ for everything...

Crypts against Graveyarddecks that could be too fast [i.e. Dredge, don't know if Reani will still be played] but also Loam, etc.
Trap is semi-good against Combo, but better a small chance than taking a 0-2 goldfish... [nevertheless, the weakest card in SB]
Shusher agains CB/Top, and controlish/fishy decks [needed]
Seeds against Jitte, Chalice, Prison, bla [needed]

Aggro MUs should be fine, except Zoo, but we have no good boarding choices against Zoo, IMO


yes, it may be an all-in Board, that you NEED to have Crypt or Trap on your opening hand, but this is an all-in deck, so I don't see the problems with that =P

[paeng4983]

Would you recommend that sideboard for an unknown meta or just GP?

for an unknown meta, here's what i might have:

3 tormod's crypt
2 fae macabre
3 rushwood legate
2 fog
3 naturalize
1 seeds of innocence
1 reverent silence

last weekend, i played in a local legacy tourney that we had here,
i got paired with W_staxx and enchantress as for my 1st two games.
as for stax, cotv set at one not to mention trinisphere and ghostly prison were
to much for my pets to handle. and as for the enchantress, moat and friends
crushed our momentum. *sigh*
but i managed to win my last two games, BG_rock and UGR_thresh.

:)

anyone here still using the bogle? how many in MD?
does anyone here have any changes in their MD? SB?
results in any tournaments that you participated?
post it here guys.

:)

[DrJones]

I think you should give a try to Glimpse of Nature, specially if you are playing free creatures like Skyshroud cutter or Vine dryad. Drawing 3 cards for one mana is good.

[NihilObstat]

I think you should give a try to Glimpse of Nature, specially if you are playing free creatures like Skyshroud cutter or Vine dryad. Drawing 3 cards for one mana is good.

Maybe glimpse would be a nice sideboard addition against some pairing, to either make sure we draw our shroud creatures, for heavy removal decks like Zoo, or that we draw our Must have Berserk against combo, although glimpse would be too slow against combo, specially since I don't play neither Cutter nor Dryad ^^ but maybe changing the deck a little to adjust it to the glimpse could work.

[thorin_the_king]

hey guys, i would like to share some crazy idea i had and testing have been very promising, 1st of the list, then the explanations:

mana:
16x forest
4x elvish spirit guide
4x noble hierarch

survival package
4x wild mongrel
4x basking rootwalla
4x vengevine
4x survival of the fittest

berserk pump package
4x kavu predator
4x invigorate
3x skyshroud cutter
4x berserk

that leaves us 5 slots that i play with 3 [cards]sylvan library + 2 [cards]umezawa's jitte, not sure about them

the deck can switch both styles of playing without being hurted. i like it's explosiveness with a mid late game plan also thx to vengevines.

so far it's been good but i would like someone takes it for a little testing and or opinions

skyshroud cutters now are better without kavu beacuse thayre a free creature to play out vengevines also.

thx for your help

thorin

[Magic-Style]

Nice crazy idea ! :)

For the 5 slots, what do you think about 1 Squee and 4 STP ??

[Tru3z3rox]

Here is my list and I've been liking it:
Deck

Lands:
12 Forests
4 Verdant Catacombs
2 Polluted Delta

Artifacts:
2 Lotus Petal

Enchantments:
3 Sylvan Library
4 Seal of Strength
4 Rancor

Instants:
4 Berserk
2 Vines of Vastwood
3 Might of Old Krosa
4 Invigorate

Creatures:
4 Elvish Spirit Guide
4 Skarrgan Pit-Skulk
4 Silhana Ledgewalker
4 Kavu Predator

[kiln]

I really wanted to do a red green stompy deck featuring...KILN FIEND! because kiln fiend+ reckless charge (or giant growth) + berserk = 20 dmg. Ridic. Don't know if anyone has made this suggestion, haven't read every post.

[paeng4983]

I really wanted to do a red green stompy deck featuring...KILN FIEND! because kiln fiend+ reckless charge (or giant growth) + berserk = 20 dmg. Ridic. Don't know if anyone has made this suggestion, haven't read every post.

there were discussions about klin, but klin was turned down
because its ability is useless if you draw a non-instant/ sorcery card.

and since SOM is fast approaching - are there any promising cards that can be added in this deck?

im looking at that 0cc with a 1/1 power/thoughness.

:)

[NecroYawgmoth]

I was also looking on Memnite...

but what would hit replace?

Silhana Ledgewalker
Kavu Predator
Slipery Bogle
Skarrgan Pit Skulk
Nettle Sentinel
Skyshroud Elite

are all better imo

=(

[thorin_the_king]

i think the infect mechanic will give this deck a big boost, i hope they'll print some dorks with infect in green, hoping for some one mana casting cost :)

invigorate or pump spells with infect is crazy, you have only to do ten damage!!

[Tru3z3rox]

i think the infect mechanic will give this deck a big boost, i hope they'll print some dorks with infect in green, hoping for some one mana casting cost :)

invigorate or pump spells with infect is crazy, you have only to do ten damage!!

That would be freaking godly if they did that. I'm really hoping they do to make other non tendrils decks viable...haha.

[NihilObstat]

Yes, yes, yes, yes !!!! They've done it!!! 1/1 green with infect !!!!! It's called Trigon of Contagion !!!!

Trigon of Contagion 4
Artifact (U)
Trigon of Contagion enters the battlefield with three charge counters on it.
GG: Put a charge counter on Trigon of Contagion.
2: Remove a charge counter from Trigon of Contagion: Put a 1/1 green Insect creature token with infect onto the battlefield.


Just kidding..... ^^

It would be awesome though, for 1 mana :O

[Gui]

Hi there, people! Been a while since I last posted here, I was kind of busy for a while... Will try to catch up now

Wanna know if people tested M11 cards, and the results... I liked Autumn's Veil, Back to Nature, Hornet Sting and Plummet, as possible sideboard options for monogreen. What else is in test?

And, just a small consideration about Autumn's Veil, which is the card I've looked most: It's a must-counter for blue decks, and is a good sideboard against any counter decks. A probable replacement/split for Vexing Shusher @ SB, it's faster than Vexing, but won't help against Chalice. Not being targetable by black spells also indicates a sweet SB option, since a lot of decks likes to splash black for it's anti-creature cards.
Also, it's hability to prevent bouncing from blue helps against combo Matchups, which will side-in bounces against us. Mostly, helps GW versions of the deck to keep Teeg on the board against combo.

[paeng4983]

Yes, yes, yes, yes !!!! They've done it!!! 1/1 green with infect !!!!!

Trigon of Contagion 4
Artifact (U)
Trigon of Contagion enters the battlefield with three charge counters on it.
GG: Put a charge counter on Trigon of Contagion.
2: Remove a charge counter from Trigon of Contagion: Put a 1/1 green Insect creature token with infect onto the battlefield.


Just kidding..... ^^

It would be awesome though, for 1 mana :O

i almost fell for this one
hahaha

@gui
well i'd still go for reverent silence than back to nature.
regarding autumn, i was able to use it, but i feel like 70%
of the time - it is a dead card. same thing with the sting.
its not that synergistic with our strategy.
plummet is, again for me, is the best
thing that came from m11 in terms of reinforcing our green team.
in addition to the cards that you mention, im currently testing that GG = 3/2 trample
though im still not that confident enough to have him in a sanctioned tournament.
:)

[Gui]

i almost fell for this one
hahaha

@gui
well i'd still go for reverent silence than back to nature.
regarding autumn, i was able to use it, but i feel like 70%
of the time - it is a dead card. same thing with the sting.
its not that synergistic with our strategy.
plummet is, again for me, is the best
thing that came from m11 in terms of reinforcing our green team.
in addition to the cards that you mention, im currently testing that GG = 3/2 trample
though im still not that confident enough to have him in a sanctioned tournament.
:)

Nice to have some feedback that fast ^^

What I like most about Autumn's is that it can force the last counter from opponent's hand, since it's a must counter... Ofc, this won't help against CB+top either, but it's cheaper than vexing... i.e., good card against merfolks and Threshold w/o CB. And once you got a Silhana/Bogle on table, only things that can prevent you from getting the combo are counters... It is, probably, not better than Vexing, but a possible split, or 5th spot against these kind of decks, depending on meta.

Could you name some points on Plummet? I could think about a lot of creatures, but I couldn't think about it as a way to counter popular decks that we wouldn't beat anyways otherwise... Like, Eva Green and monoblacks with Tombstalkers...

I don't like the gg 3/2 trample that much, seems like another common card that will get killed by every single removal @Legacy, and got the same evasion we already get from rancor/berserk... But, indeed, 3 power is almost as good as it gets for a 2cc... I'd probably prefer to use Tarmogoyf, tho, since /4 is enough to get rid of lightnings.

Aggro MUs should be fine, except Zoo, but we have no good boarding choices against Zoo, IMO

BTW, I agree with this statement, and I think we should try to work something against it asap. (at least for the mono g version, which has no swords/paths)

[NihilObstat]

It is, probably, not better than Vexing, but a possible split, or 5th spot against these kind of decks, depending on meta.

Could you name some points on Plummet? I could think about a lot of creatures, but I couldn't think about it as a way to counter popular decks that we wouldn't beat anyways otherwise... Like, Eva Green and monoblacks with Tombstalkers...

Hi there, Gui, long time no see ^^

Autumn's Veil can definitely go as the 5th and 6th card in sideboard if you play in a very blue meta, but then I would suggest you play Goblins, hehe.

On the other hand, I must say that I have had some really bad experiences against monoblack control of evagreen. I feel that their Ritual, Tourach, Thoughtseize is waaaay too much for us, and not just that, but a simple 1st turn Thoughtseize to a creature followed by a snuff out, also kills us. Plummet wouldn't be the right card though, because my fear is not slowing Them down, but finding a way to recover from discard effects...

Against Zoo, the option I find most correct is getting the 4x Vines of Vastwood, and praying for a Berserk in hand, or Silhana plus Rancor. They are fast but so are we. There was a long testing on it pages ago, and they came up with a constant 50%, any ideas to get better than that ???




Now things apart, I am helding, and starting a Legacy League in my city on September the 18th, and I'm thinking in playing either our deck, or Combo Elves, or Aggro Elves ^^ I don't have other decks.... hehe
I am predicting a very aggro heavy metagame with Goblins and other monocolor decks, so I'm not playing Skyshroud Elite. What do you guys suggest I put in his place, Tattermunge Maniac, with his 1 defense, or extra pumps, to try to combo faster. I also know there will be some Zoo's, so 4x Vines maindeck ???

Any ideas, thanks a lot ;)

[Gui]

Hi there, Gui, long time no see ^^

Autumn's Veil can definitely go as the 5th and 6th card in sideboard if you play in a very blue meta, but then I would suggest you play Goblins, hehe.

On the other hand, I must say that I have had some really bad experiences against monoblack control of evagreen. I feel that their Ritual, Tourach, Thoughtseize is waaaay too much for us, and not just that, but a simple 1st turn Thoughtseize to a creature followed by a snuff out, also kills us. Plummet wouldn't be the right card though, because my fear is not slowing Them down, but finding a way to recover from discard effects...

Against Zoo, the option I find most correct is getting the 4x Vines of Vastwood, and praying for a Berserk in hand, or Silhana plus Rancor. They are fast but so are we. There was a long testing on it pages ago, and they came up with a constant 50%, any ideas to get better than that ???




Now things apart, I am helding, and starting a Legacy League in my city on September the 18th, and I'm thinking in playing either our deck, or Combo Elves, or Aggro Elves ^^ I don't have other decks.... hehe
I am predicting a very aggro heavy metagame with Goblins and other monocolor decks, so I'm not playing Skyshroud Elite. What do you guys suggest I put in his place, Tattermunge Maniac, with his 1 defense, or extra pumps, to try to combo faster. I also know there will be some Zoo's, so 4x Vines maindeck ???

Any ideas, thanks a lot ;)

Yeah, I see autumn's veil as a better card against combo, denying bounces, than against control, even tho it can useful against heavy counter... and right now, I don't think we have room for it at SB as anti-blue tech, but maybe it could fit against combo decks, and only then, be considered a anti-blue. But mindbreak trap is probably better...

I think the same, against Zoo, our best bets are Silhana, bogle, vastwoods, rancor, possibly scrybs and any kind of evasion we can get. I would go with Fernandes' deck, that one you translated a few pages ago, if I was to fight aggro heavy. (I'm actually considering it, since I'm probably going to fight aggro heavy)
My current deck uses 3x Vastwood, and I carry the 4th at sideboard against Zoo. The other only SB I carry against Zoo is a singleton Bounty of the Hunt, because I think it may save some creature unexpectedly, and also because I carry 2x Krosan grip maindeck (personal choice) and side them out against Zoo. Also, this gets my pump count to 21, which means a better chance to combo

My testings against Eva Green and TA, a few ago, wasn't bad at all... maybe it's the list you play, or maybe only bad draws, but we are usually better on the "top deck" battle, since we always got more aggro, and our business makes our aggro better than theirs. Also, the consistancy of my "all forest" manabase helps against their sinkhole/wasteland plan.

LMK the list you are planning on take to the tourney? :D